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Originally Posted by MIRZA
you have 'east' and 'west' side of almost every stadium for people with their kids, or those who just wanna to watch the game...
as for violence I don't like it either, but that is ultras way of life. so what if they wanna to fight each other, they don't beat inocent people, they beat people who are like them, ready to fight for their club and their color..
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look, i dont care if bunch of dudes get together in a field somewhere and beat each other up over who's soccer team is better...sounds kinda silly, but they shouldn't complain when the cops show up. and they should expect trouble and accidents to happen.
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Originally Posted by MIRZA
when did ultras attacked cops without reason?? I can give you some proves when cops attacked ultras without reason...
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cops have a difficult job. ultra's sound like vary volitile people, ready to beat down someone over nothing. if i was in charge of keeping these people under control, i might be a little jumpy.
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Originally Posted by MIRZA
getting games stoped becuase one ultras died isn't selfish reason, for me is selfish to play that games..
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why should they expect for the entire league to stop when someone accidently gets killed at one of these brawls. they are putting themselves into this position. the cop would never have been even there if they were not breaking some laws.
did you see all the children at the atlanta game? all they wanted is to watch their hero's... who's poster is on their wall. You know that there was at least on kid there, at his first match, maybe his last due to his finacial situation, or whatever, and he doesnt get to see the match, because of accidental shooting, in fight between lazio and juve fans at a gas staion 100's of mile away?
why should i care, over here in the states about this fight and shooting incident. lets say for arguement sake, that this policeman meant to shoot the car, while it would be wrong, why shutdown a soccer game? the coralation just doesnt compute.
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Originally Posted by MIRZA
as for flares, in majority they aren't thrown on the pitch, but I addmit that sometimes fans throw it on the pitch and games got delayed for couple min...
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are flares really that cool? i used to enjoy playing with sparklers when i was a kid, but the novalty has worn off...