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Originally Posted by Revolver
What title?! Excuse me, but I'm sick and tired of every second man here jerking off (excuse me for this) on Leonardo. What he has done? What title?! We never had a CHANCE! We can't beat Catania at home! Catania! And you're telling me that's because our squad is bad?! The squad we have at the moment, without injured players is good enough to beat Catania at home, I can't believe that anyone here doubts that.
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Man, is it me or you contradict yourself in this paragraph ?!
Didn't Catania beat Inter few weeks ago ?
And you say (and write it in bold) that without injured players, our team is good enough to beat Catania at home, we all agree I think, but didn't we have some injured players during that game ?! Do you remember Nesta ? Or maybe Pato ?
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Originally Posted by Revolver
We are where we are just because this Serie A is pathetic, not because Leonardo is master who turned a ****ty team into a title challenger.
You want the proof? Here's the proof. Last year, with worse squad, at this time of the year (33 games played) we had 67 points, which is, believe it or not, 3 points MORE than we have now. I don't even want to mention that it was Carlo's 7th season on Milan's bench and he lost authority in the team even before last season.
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Same as the previous paragraph ...
Your proof can be written this way, especially if we agree to say we have a better team this season (which for me isn't true): Serie A is better this year than last year, look, we had more points last season with a worse squad ...
And anyway, by watching several games sometimes (more or less often depending on the periods of the year), you can see each W-E that the level is higher in Serie A this season than last year.
Oh, and Leo, in his first year ever of career as a coach, has almost the same results as a very experienced coach ... Isn't that good ?
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Originally Posted by Revolver
We need strong tactician on the bench. Just look at what Ranieri did at Roma. He turned the same team (plus Toni) that couldn't get into top 4 last year into TRUE title challenger, and most probably Scudetto winner. There are many tacticians like him, S.G. Eriksson, Lippi, Hiddink... all available.
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You take the bad example ... This Roma team has been the same (maybe one or two changes regarding the players, especially in defence) since 2-3 seasons !! This team obviously had a confidence crisis, and Ranieri was just smart enough to stop this crisis. Tactically and even in the way they play, it's exactly the same team, with almost the same players, as what did Spalletti with that team !! Seriously, nothing changed, except this confidence "thing" thanks to Ranieri (and in football and more generally in sports, we all know, I think, that confidence is one of the main keys, you can have all the talent you want, if you don't feel mentally good, you will do nothing: the example of a player who was in Milan and who completely changed thanks to confidence is Gourcuff, and you can find hundreds of examples of that kind).
So when you want to "destroy" a coach, come with better facts and proofs, then we'll agree to disagree on things (or at best other facts or proofs will be given), but right now, I just don't see anything correct in your last post.
PS: About the Mourinho/Ferguson vs Leonardo part, Ranieri, the "master tactician", took a lesson against Deschamps when Deschamps was at the head of Monaco and Ranieri in Chelsea ... Does that mean Deschamps is a better coach than Ranieri ? But Deschamps lost in Marseille against our poor Milan (yeah, Leonardo did have the experience of 10 games at best, we had so many bad results, and we went in Marseille and won), and didn't manage to beat us in San Siro ... Does that mean Leonardo is a better coach than Deschamps ? And if yes, well, we have a problem, your "master tactician" is worse than Leo there ... and anyway, Ranieri was also beaten by Leonardo in Milan and didn't manage to beat us in Roma (they even should have lost it) ... Damn, I don't understand anything more there !! ^^