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Old 18-05-2006, 07:33   #61

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Favalli is very gd player but just for a back up.
He can be used in coppa games and in some serie a games if there are any injuries or a big match coming and a player needs rest.
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Old 18-05-2006, 09:10   #62

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When is our transfer policy going to change??? Do we even have a youth system?? How are we going to give our youngsters a chance if we keep signing veterans as second or third string backups?? (...) Favalli is certainly not going to be in our starting eleven, so why not take a chance on someone from our youth system or an up and coming star from elsewhere??
Some considerations:

- Milan needed a back up for Serginho and Favalli was choosen. I am not really pleased, but he is ok despite his age. Played two decents matches against Roma in Coppa Italia and he is a better defender than Serginho. For just one season is ok;

- As for our transfer policy, just think how much money the team spent in these transfers that built our squad today (some names are just for the record):
1999: Gennaro Gattuso (Salernitana), José Mari (Atlético Madrid), Serginho (São Paulo), Andriy Shevchenko (Dinamo Kiev)
2000: Roque Junior (Palmeiras)
2001: Filippo Inzaghi (Juventus), Manuel Rui Costa (Fiorentina)
2002: Alessandro Nesta (Lazio), Clarence Seedorf (Inter), Rivaldo (Barcelona), Andrea Pirlo (Brescia)
2003: Marcos Cafu (Roma), Giuseppe Pancaro (Lazio), Kaká (São Paulo)
2004: Vikash Dhorasoo (Lion), Jaap Stam (Lazio)
2005: Jankulovski (Udinese), Gilardino (Parma).
I honestly think Milan will spend some cash this summer again not only to rejuvenate defense but to strenght the squad as well, but there are three major factors this summer (possible Sheva departure/replacement, Juve in Serie B and the WC 2006). We all need to be a little patient.
Overall, I think there is a balance between "big money"/bargains transfers;

- Finally, I agree that some youngsters (Foggia, Sammarco and maybe Pozzi) deserve a real chance in the first team.
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Old 18-05-2006, 09:31   #63

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thought after kaka and gila we were going a good direction but i was mistaking
The problem is that for every single step we did in the right direction (Kaká, Gila, etc.), we have another step on the wrong direction (Vieri, Amoroso, etc.)...
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Old 18-05-2006, 09:33   #64

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BTW: Sheva must decide soon if he will stay with us or go away, 'cause if he leaves, we can't wait too long to set up not only the whole transfer's deal, but also to find the necessary replacement.
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Old 18-05-2006, 09:48   #65

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BTW: Sheva must decide soon if he will stay with us or go away, 'cause if he leaves, we can't wait too long to set up not only the whole transfer's deal, but also to find the necessary replacement.
yea coz strikers like him aren't sitting jobless on the street. If he really cares anout Milan he should give a decision atleast a week befor the WC. I smell henry!
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Old 19-05-2006, 03:17   #66

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The problem is that for every single step we did in the right direction (Kaká, Gila, etc.), we have another step on the wrong direction (Vieri, Amoroso, etc.)...
you are so right, pfff its like, oooww he is a free agent, lets sign em
thats what i hate about milan..., crespo was the best 'free' player but he was on loan :s

lets hope 1 youth player will come in: kerlon, mascherano, torres, barzagli(already 25 i think but he is great and i think JUVE will buy em :s ),...
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Old 19-05-2006, 04:34   #68

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henry has confirmed that he will sign contract extension with arsenal, so we can all forget about henry!
we also need to consider the possible relegation for juve and hopefully we are not involved in the scandal. if juve is relegated and we are not, we can get juve players at good price.
we will be perfectly OK with or without sheva!
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Old 19-05-2006, 06:25   #69

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henry has confirmed that he will sign contract extension with arsenal, so we can all forget about henry!
we also need to consider the possible relegation for juve and hopefully we are not involved in the scandal. if juve is relegated and we are not, we can get juve players at good price.
we will be perfectly OK with or without sheva!
I don't know what Juve players we would go for but we would defiently get Gallas and Oddo as Juve were the only other team interested in going for them.

If juve get relegated we should look to use the oppertunity to really prepare our squad for the future as we will effictively be the only big italian team in the transfer market. Any player that wants to come to italy and win things will opt for us above all others.
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lets hope 1 youth player will come in: kerlon, mascherano, torres, barzagli(already 25 i think but he is great and i think JUVE will buy em :s ),...

I fully agree, buddy: we have to think BIG!
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If Inter get Grosso, meanwhile we pick Favalli from them, I will feel like an idiot.
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If Inter get Grosso, meanwhile we pick Favalli from them, I will feel like an idiot.
.well you're not alone

its like we get all the 'trash' what others don't want

vogel, dhorasoo, vieri, amoroso,... all those players are hjappy at milan, they couldn't get a contract so milan signs them, so they earn money on there old day...pfff

my question is: why do we spend our money on paying there salary???

only exeption is crespo(but was on loan)
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.well you're not alone

its like we get all the 'trash' what others don't want

vogel, dhorasoo, vieri, amoroso,... all those players are hjappy at milan, they couldn't get a contract so milan signs them, so they earn money on there old day...pfff

my question is: why do we spend our money on paying there salary???

only exeption is crespo(but was on loan)
looking at the four players mentioned there, seems to me calling them trash is VERY harsh.

Firstly, Vieri didn't perform, but with the huge pressure placed on him, I really am not too surprised, considering he should have been a squad player and little else.

As for Vogel, he hasn't had a bad season at all and in fact has been admiral in the midfield when called on.

Amoroso hasn't really had any chance to prove his worth and really as fourth choice, I don't expect anyone better. He did well back in Brazil and has been very respectful to Milan, despite knowing his chances are very limited.

Dhorasoo was a good buy. On top of that, he proved that he was a better player than many thought. Add to this he performed very well for us when he played and add that he was always very happy at Milan, and in the end showed great respect to the club, personally, I think that was more than just a reasonable transfer, I thought he was a very good transfer.

Some people have to realise that not every player we buy can be a superstar. Doing this will not only cause financial hell, but it will probably have a negative impact on the current players at Milan.

Favalli I doubt is brought into strengthen the side, where for at least a year in the LB we'll be pretty covered with Serginho and possibly Jankulovsky, Kaladze or Maldini. Favalli is there to come in if we need a solid player to play at LB. I remember Pancaro's transfer being lauded a few years ago, but nowerdays I never see people complain about it.

The club isn't stupid, the management can see what we need and buy accordingly. We are not Chelsea, and do not spend ridiculous amounts on some overrated player, we buy smartly and do what we need to stay amongst the stongest, nothing more, nothing less.
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What player you prefer: Favalli or Grosso?
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looking at the four players mentioned there, seems to me calling them trash is VERY harsh.

Firstly, Vieri didn't perform, but with the huge pressure placed on him, I really am not too surprised, considering he should have been a squad player and little else.

As for Vogel, he hasn't had a bad season at all and in fact has been admiral in the midfield when called on.

Amoroso hasn't really had any chance to prove his worth and really as fourth choice, I don't expect anyone better. He did well back in Brazil and has been very respectful to Milan, despite knowing his chances are very limited.

Dhorasoo was a good buy. On top of that, he proved that he was a better player than many thought. Add to this he performed very well for us when he played and add that he was always very happy at Milan, and in the end showed great respect to the club, personally, I think that was more than just a reasonable transfer, I thought he was a very good transfer.

Some people have to realise that not every player we buy can be a superstar. Doing this will not only cause financial hell, but it will probably have a negative impact on the current players at Milan.

Favalli I doubt is brought into strengthen the side, where for at least a year in the LB we'll be pretty covered with Serginho and possibly Jankulovsky, Kaladze or Maldini. Favalli is there to come in if we need a solid player to play at LB. I remember Pancaro's transfer being lauded a few years ago, but nowerdays I never see people complain about it.

The club isn't stupid, the management can see what we need and buy accordingly. We are not Chelsea, and do not spend ridiculous amounts on some overrated player, we buy smartly and do what we need to stay amongst the stongest, nothing more, nothing less.
save it dev, no matter how true it is what ur saying, it goes in one ear and gets out the other
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