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Old 22-10-2006, 15:57   #181

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i dont think we can actually blame everything on the sheva leaving, i think in a way Rui Costa and Stam leaving has had a bigger overall effect ( Gourcuff is great, but stam is alot better than Bonera)...
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Old 22-10-2006, 15:57   #182

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This is not one man's fault! out team won't start magically wining again if we buy ronaldinho or bring back sheva or fire ancelotti. There's something wrong with the team as a whole. Theres been a growing cancer in this side since we won cl. since then we have had the depertivo dabacle, the liverpool tragedy, losin to barca ect. ect. It is something we shud have seen comin considering that we have not won anything in the last two years. It is time for a new theory. We no longer need some players to compliment our team, we need new players to base the roots of our team on. The way i see it there are two players that are very key to this team and we need to keep in our system for many years to come, nesta and kaka. we shud no longer buy band aid solution for our defense like favalli or bonera. its time to get rid of that garbage and buy some cornerstones for generations to come. players like barzagli, oddo, torres, sneider, amelia, suazo, gasbarroni. and please get rid of gila, its taking him far too long to find his comfort zone. mayb a deal like gila+cash+wut atletico owe us for torres?but there is no point in firing the coach or buyin a player when it is evident that the unit as a whole is rotten.
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Old 22-10-2006, 15:59   #183

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i would base a new team arround - Nesta- Gattuso- Pirlo- Kaka . These are our 4 key players..
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:00   #184

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I wish I had much to say, but I don't. We've really hit rock bottom at this point.

Tbh, today the players looked to be dejected and completely lacking any confidence. Even when we're doing the right things, nothing goes our way (kaka and pirlo hitting the post in a few seconds said it all really)

I won't give up yet, not until we are COMPLETELY unable to win, but a lot of work needs to be done.
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:01   #185

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its time to make a real development plan, becouse we cant just buy Di Michele and some CB from Siena in January and expect things to be solved. I dont appriciate the way Galliani is making all those stupid comments in papers, its like he is lying in my face. Coach and few players need to be changed, its quite normal after certain period of time. But it needs to be done.
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:01   #186

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blaming any individual is just useless, let me say it again. But yes, perhaps a change is needed, not for the sake of improving the team, but a change....
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:01   #187

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When was the last time we lost at home?
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:02   #188

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its time to make a real development plan, becouse we cant just buy Di Michele and some CB from Siena in January and expect things to be solved. I dont appriciate the way Galliani is making all those stupid comments in papers, its like he is lying in my face. Coach and few players need to be changed, its quite normal after certain period of time. But it needs to be done.
We have done it before... Year we got Pirlo we did a exodus on players like Guly and Giunti...
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:03   #189

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When was the last time we lost at home?
March or May 2005 (I forget which)
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:07   #190

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positive side of the game.. Barzagli didnt look to bad 2night (maybe we can try and sign him next summer)...
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:09   #191

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i don't think sacking Carlo now will solve anything i think we should stick with him this season and then sack him, we should spend big for next season or we should buy a lot of players because this squad lacks depth and we see how much this hurts us.
With this squad we won't win anything maybe the UCL but i doubt it, i didn't think Sheva's departure would hurt us so much but now i see it did.

Yea Warro you're right we were unlucky that will be Carlo's and everybodies excuse for sure
and also we miss Serginho's runs and crosses on the left Janku can't attack like Sergio, the injury of Gourcuff came in bad time also maybe if we had him we could've win some of those draws, that is the problem with don't have depth what will happen if Kaka gets injured for a long time(god forbid) then we'll be really screwed.
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:26   #192

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A HORRIBLE NIGHT FOR ME AS MILAN LOOSE !!

I loss my big bet on Milan and the tragedy was that I add another bet after half time with a thought that Milan could score.
They don't and conceded another goal from Amauri instead !!!

Not as an excuse but what I saw during the live game on my TV was that Milan played so slow !!
I have noticed this slow pace of ball playing during 3-4 recent games !!!
There is no more pressure game being shown by Milan to force their opponent to defend but just playing the ball so slow, passing incorrectly.
The player were so sloppy were Gattuseo and Seedorf !!
I can't see anymore the pressure from Gattuso ..or maybe he thought that with the captain armband he wore on his arm meaning that he can play so slow and clumpsy??

If Milan do not change their playing tactic or Carletto couldn't find a good strategy on how to play against an almost defending opponents (which almost all teams knew how to play agaist Milan) it would be the end of Milan's winning possibility.....a very closed and tight from the midfield and defense by just letting one or two player upfront..and...Abracadabra ..they stop Milan for scoring goal/s !!

The 1st goal was purely Nesta's fault as he didn't know where the ball is..and Bresciano make use of Nesta's stupidity to score...
The 2nd goal was Dida's fault as it seemed that he's not ready for a shot from..again Bresciano...He just tiiped off the ball not too far away but to Simplicio header and finished by Amauri.....

Again this is the most horrible night for me to watch Milan played like an amateur team...play slowly and no pressure at all !!!

Berlusconi was leaving after the half time and could be a sign for him to find a new coach for Milan....

One more thing...in this situation I just simply miss Serginho who always gice good cross to the strikers!!!!
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:34   #193

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thats exactly the point, all teams know how to play against us, pack everyone back because Milan strikers are stuck for options...
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:39   #194

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the game wasn't as bad as the result might suggest and some people are really making it sound like we are real, real bad.

Obviously, one can't say that thigns are going well for us now but the team played well today and showed more agressiveness than in that game vs Livorno for isntance - worst game by Milan this season IMO. Today, if it wasn't for that howler by Nesta, the game could have ended in avery different way as Palermo's second goal was the result of their 0-1 lead as Milan was throwing everyone forward looking for an equaliser.

The team does lack concentration and the string of average results has beat up owr confidence a little but to say that we are playing crap and the coach has to go is jjust plain overreacting IMO not to mention the ridiculous comparissons to the 96/97 and 97/98 seasons.
Right now, we are playing pretty well just not getting the results we should. A lot of work DOES need to be done especaially when it comes to bringing more concreteness and precision in our game. These, however, are issues that are solvable as long as the players, coaches, and club officials manage to keep their heads cool, recognize the problems and get down to work ... and the people working at Milan are experienced enough to know how to deal with situations like this one.

Several players coming back from injuries - like Gorky, Sergio, and Ambro - as well as Gila and RO finally getting their act together will all make things much easier for the coaching staff. Of course, adding some new faces in January could help but we don't need to make this a revolution as one is simply not needed. A touch here and there, raising concentration and awareness among the players we already have will be all we need to be back as contenders on both fronts - its the results that are really lacking, not our play ... this tells me it's more of a psychological/concentartion issue rather than anything to get desparate about - in these situations, the best thing to do is keep cool, while working on the problems instead of point fingers in despair, buy player after player with no clear idea why, and end up making issues much deeper and bigger than they actually are.

Oh, and to most of you guys, please, for the next several days, avoid getting anywhere near kitchens or shooting ranges - I will miss you
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Old 22-10-2006, 16:46   #195

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Agree Zlat the game wasn't bad . But why we have to wait until Palermo score and then play well , why Milan players don't give their maximum from the begining . But not just play well in attack and forget about defence like they did after first goal and then find themself down by 2 goals .. Hope the next games will be better for us !
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