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Old 25-05-2007, 11:02   #1

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Server move in the making

After a period of time of staying on a relatively expensive dedicated server it is time to move to a more, cost wise, manageable server.
I, we, have looked and discarded many server options because I think we all do our best to have a stable site where we can talk about the best team in the world. Many cheaper hosts were risky at best or wouldn't even allow a forum of this size on their cheap plans so we have settled for another server that while almost half our current cost should, crossing fingers, allow us to enjoy talking about Milan and other topics too.

The actual move will probably occur sometime next week, after the season is officially over, and I will do my best to minimize downtime but experience tells me thats wishful thinking. More exact time to follow closer to the move.

We still need all your support, monetary and otherwise, to make MM a good gathering place for all. Reply here or PM me with if you have any questions
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Old 25-05-2007, 11:15   #2

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Rez and I have talked this over for many moons, it seems, and we're finally ready to take the plunge and just do it. We both joined The Admin Zone, a forums for admins and owners of forums, and we immediately found this topic was already being discussed. Rez has done all the legwork on this, I will readily admit! And darn it, he's good at it too!

So this topic is to give everyone a heads up well in advance. I know people don't read announcements here, so we'll keep this topic alive for all to see. Please note he said he's going to TRY to keep downtime to a minimum, but we all know how technology is. One of us will let you know the actual date of the move!

And as Rez also said, we still need contributors to help keep us online!
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Old 25-05-2007, 16:30   #3

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if this new server is half the cost, what are we going to lose out on? Security? Speed?
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Old 25-05-2007, 16:37   #4

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Processor and speed are the main hardware issues, AMD Athlon XP 2200 --->Intel Celeron 2.0GHz. Hopefully not noticeable overall but we have to hope the hardware is solid and eventhough I have monitored the host over the past while one can not be 100% sure about security, reliability until we are there ourselves.
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Old 25-05-2007, 16:47   #5

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i'm sure things will be just fine
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Old 26-05-2007, 13:38   #6

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Rezak how much time you believe it will take you to put the new server at the worst situation?.
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Old 26-05-2007, 21:38   #7

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Quote:
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if this new server is half the cost, what are we going to lose out on? Security? Speed?

We have to make this move, no if's, and's or but's.

We have a small pool of contributors who faithfully send in payments, but that amount isn't covering our costs. I cannot afford the lion's share any more and haven't been able to in nearly a year, and someone else has been contributing the balance all these months, often an amount of over $100 a month. However, there's a chance this other person will be absent from us for 2 years; I am awaiting word. if this person does indeed end up taking leave, who's going to cover the balance for us?

We have had numerous appeals out to the membership for help in paying for the server. I guess people thought we were crying wolf all the time. I don't know how else to say this, but at this point it's more a matter of taking our chances and at least the forum will remain online. We were just going to make the decision and make the move and let people deal with whatever performance issues arise as a result. I mean, frankly, we're spoiled here--the slightest glitch or burp of the server and people complain.

The way I look at it now, we go to a less expensive server or we see the end of MM. This is a problem I've been wrestling with for about 2 years now. I happen to think we're being foolish with our money to pay so much for a server--close to $2,000 for a year...outlandish, I'm sorry. So Rez has done some investigating for us and has asked all the questions he needs to ask, and he's chosen a server he thinks will carry our site well. I'm satisfied with his decision. It'll be scary to move again, but it's going to happen...b/c is has to happen if MM is going to remain alive!

Rez....is Final Football also being moved with us??
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Old 26-05-2007, 22:02   #8

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Old 27-05-2007, 04:28   #9

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Debs, i wasn't complaining ... just asking a question.
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Old 27-05-2007, 08:44   #10

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Why not buy a Dedicated server off www.Layeredtech.com they are by far the best.
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Old 27-05-2007, 14:09   #11

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Giorgos, I wish I could tell you but 6 (and up) hours is easily a possibility, don't hold me to that though
humanTORCH, thanx
wivstar, I actually remember looking at them earlier in the year, I will keep that mind for the future
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Old 30-05-2007, 15:18   #12

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Rezak just tell us before to start doing it, i don't wont to try to open Milanmania one day and see that it doesn't work.
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Old 31-05-2007, 06:39   #13

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That's why we started this thread--tp let people know what's going to happen and also to alert people as to when!
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Old 31-05-2007, 09:47   #14

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Rez actually thinks we could be ready as early as tomorrow to start the move!
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Old 31-05-2007, 15:04   #15

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excuse me guys and girls, but since i dont understand any thing about internet
so i have a question(not very clever in fact), does moving the server mean that the site name MM will change?
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