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Old 05-07-2006, 17:15   #11

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Warro, Italian football WILL lose. Not stop existing, not be destroyed...but Lose. And it will happen only if Juve falls, not to mention what will happen if Milan also falls.

1. Do you think all the best player will play for another Italian clubs ? With the exception of Inter, Milan and maybe Roma-Fiorentina, who can afford to have players like Trezeguet, Vieira, Buffon, Zambrotta, Camoranesi, Nedved, Zlatan etc ? Or if Milan also falls, it makes things even more complicated : you now have even Kaka, Pirlo and all the others.
It's sure that many of them will continue playing in another leagues, so it automatically makes Serie A less attractive than Premier league or Primera, and it automatically means less money for Italy.

2. Italian NT will also lose if Juve spends 3-4 years in lower league. Mrki says Moggi had his own bussiness running with the NT. Well, Ok, Lippi shouldn't have taken any Juve players if that was the case, but does it means Italy would have made the same success, and play in WC final ?
I tend to believe that Pirlo wouldn't have been the Pirlo we know, if he played in Inter or some smaller Italian clubs, because every team school has something different, and he learned a lot in Milan. The same goes for Zambrotta, Buffon, Camo, Del Piero, even Cannavaro ( do u remember how bad he played in Inter, and how good he played in Juve and Italian NT)... Juve has a lot to do with players like Zambrotta being what they are, and with the exception of legends such as Maldini and Baresi, almost everything Italian defenders offered in last 20 years, was something very typical for Juve school defense.
The question is...will all these men who "created" many Juve brilliant players continue working in Italy after Juve falls, or they'll maybe go abroad, and start creating players for Manchester Utd or Real Madrid ???

3. Not that i care about TV rights...but you're wrong about it also.
I don't know the correct numbers, so i'll only speculate.
Serie A was bringing 1 Billion from TV rights, Serie B only 10 Million.
With Juve demoted, i guess Serie A profit goes down for at least 30%, and Serie B profit goes up for 1000%.
Meaning: 700 Million in Serie A - 100 Million for Serie B ..... it's less than the years when Juve was in A, in any case.
Now what if Milan also falls ...... you may not believe it, but i'm sure it will not be Serie A only losing a bit, but it will mean a disaster.



You once tried to compare Milan from 1981 with Juve 2006, and you told me that Italian football survived Milan's relegation successfully, and wasn't affected from it.
But i guess you didn't concider the fact that Milan with 9 won scudettos was sharing the 4th place in best Italian team in history standings list( today it will be...hmmmm, Genoa is 4th best italian team of all time, with 9 Scudettos, but since they are not in serie A, it will be something like Fiorentina), you didn't see how many NT players Milan had ( all N. Teams, not just Italian), and how many Scudettos Milan won in last 15-16 years before being demoted to lower league ( i'll help you with this : they won only 1 Scudetto). Milan should have played in UEFA Cup the next year if wasn't demoted etc etc.

Oh, and i really do believe that it will be a long term shock if Real Madrid falls in Segundo !


Before i finish this post, i will again say how much i'm proud that the "disaster" and "shame" of football, the "biggest thieves in history" - Juventus, is the only team in the world with 13 of it's current or ex players, and Marcello Lippi, being involved in WC final match. I'm aware of the current situation, and i'm 99.9% sure that Juve will fall in B or C, so i must tell you that this WC final will be special for me, because it will probably be the last time i'll see all these Juve legends playing together, showing again that they are the best ( for MM members, second best). Yep, i know, Juve school produced champions only ! Juventus.com said it perfectly : Il Mondiale dice ......Juve

At the end : Moggi !
I don't like him, and he really was a shame for the football. But i can only say that he ruined the image of the Italian football, not the quality. Quality never suffered because of him.
And how can quality suffer, when it was him who brought in Italy Diego Maradona and Zinedine Zidane...2 of the best 3 players in football history. Thanks for all the great players you brought Moggi, and burn in hell for everything else !!!
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