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Old 02-06-2007, 11:28   #20

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Originally Posted by zlatanov
I personally am not a fan of Dinho coming to Milan but still I am not sure that the performances of the pair Kaka-Dinho in the NT give us that good of an idea how they would/could play in Milan together - these are predominantly friendly games we've seen them play in and it's dif to judge based on that only as motivation is not at a high in those instances ...

also the current coach, Dunga, has yet to really prove himself that he has the quality to make them, or the NT as a whole, work together as I haven't really seen any convincing performances from his team, expect probably that 3-0 over Argentina but even that one was in a friendly game and the opposition seem pretty much not in the mood for a game to begin with.
All in all, I am not sure Dunga has what it takes to take full advantage of the players he has available as he has yet to prove himself at a serious level in non-friendly games ... actually, I am not even sure if he's had much coaching experience before he got the NT job.

Even the world cup wasn't much of an indicator, IMO, as in that moment players like Kaka and Dinho, who are leaders in their teams and rarely get to rest, were coming out of a tiresome season and it is not easy performing at an even like that in a moment like that.
And Pereira's tactics with playing Kaka and Dinho behind 2 strikers may not have been the right thing to do as Dinho would often find himself stranded way too far away from his comfort zone near the PA of the other team as he had to track back too deep IMO ... again, questionable tactics and use of the two players.

But I agree that, in general, to give more balance to a team with Kaka and Dinho in it, that team would have to play with 1 clear striker, like Barca, or with one striker and Dinho as a support striker, which is what Milan's favourite "romb" formation was about when we had a good support striker at our disposal, Sheva ... and good, attacking backs to give more width and support on the flanks.
Pretty much agree with all you said there. I found the biggest problem last night was Ronaldinho held the ball far too long, which meant Kaka would get picked up by the time he gets the ball.

Then they also played too far apart with neither going forward far enough to support Wagner Love (and with Robinho almost non-existent a lot of the match, it's all the more harder). I'm sure Ancelotti could work them together better than both Dunga and Pareirra, but right now I'm a little afraid at the thought of risking so much money when they simply haven't performed together.

However, should we get him, then I'd push him further forward into the supporting role (which he should be able to do well as he was a forward at the start of his career) and get him to use play on the ball far, FAR more quicker (yesterday he reminded me of Seedorf during the first half of the season). The fact is, at Milan the system has been built around Kaka and Pirlo in midfield, and Dinho coming in would mean he'll have to adapt into the system we play, rather than changing everything around.

For games where we need to attack more, that supporting forward role is better for him, but for bigger matches (like CL), he will probably have to change his role to be similar to Seedorf, such as pushing out on the left (which he does often anyway) when defending and really working hard that side to make sure support is provided for the LB. This is another element that's difficult to predict, as he can provide defensive support to some degree, but it'll have to improve in our side.
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