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Old 10-04-2008, 10:40   #1261

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wow.. get well soon warro... i hope u could remove the plate sooner so u could play football again .
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Old 10-04-2008, 11:38   #1262

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More we approach the summer mercato, more the names of the targets are prestigious ?! lol

If Ronaldinho, Sheva, Berbatov (who admitted that Milan was interested, I'd prefer Milan to admit it lol), Ramos ... what a (possible) mercato !!

Now, I just hope we won't just get back Sheva and Oliveira (proclaimed when he came as the new Sheva lol) and guys from loan ...
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Old 10-04-2008, 11:53   #1263

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Ramos would be a great addition to our defence and his still so young!
Goal.com have story saying that madrid have given up on Kaka and want Christiano Ronaldo. I don't even want to imagine what the price would be before ManU even consider letting him go. Perhaps a Ramos sale would be required to fund the Ronaldo bid?
I saw somewhere that Madrid's bid is well over 100mil
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:05   #1264

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Admittedly the rumours surrounding our mercato and more importantly the statements Galliani and Berlu are making are concerning me.

Ronaldinho I feel could be a very good buy, one that would bring a lot of excitement within the club and could be highly successful with regards to our performances, although there are still risks including his drop in form and shape, party like attitude and inability to play with Kaka (though I have hopes all can be improved). This transfer, I fully support though.

Zambrotta is another almost completed signing if rumours are to be believed. Again, there is a risk involved, considering his form at Barca and his age. However, there is hope that we can have a positive influence on him like we did with Cafu and getting him playing up to his normal standards for a few years yet, but I fear I may be wrong. However, he alone is not the solution to our fullback problems, and I cannot fathom how anyone can justify us not needing another quality fullback, considering the performances of Oddo and Janku (our current starting fullbacks) this season. I support this acquisition, but I cannot accept us buying him alone. Vargas for me is a strong option, considering his performances and consistency for Catania.

Sheva I simply think is a bad choice. He left and clearly has left a sour taste in the mouths of some figures at the club. In addition to this, his career has been nose diving since he left us and he doesn’t look a shadow of who he was. He can only be bought in as a squad player should Gila leave (if he’s bought as a solution to our attacking problems, then I can only assume the management have completely lost their mind). Even then, off the bench we really need someone who is solid and reliable, even if not technically great (a Tomasson so to speak), and Sheva is not currently a solid or reliable option. Added to this, at 32 (for a striker), there’s very little hope we can do a great deal with him. I feel this transfer is a backward step for the club and a major risk (we already have two risks with Dinho and Zamro as it is), and seriously think we need to reconsider this decision, as we can probably get another striker for a similar price who’s more stable than Sheva. Even if we get Sheva, we’ll still need a world class forward to lead our attack.

Then there’s the Abbiati returning rumours. Again, for me this is a risk because as good as Abbiati is as a shot stopper, he’s never been a particularly stable keeper, bringing uncertainty. However, he’s still a step up from Dida and Kalac right now, two majorly error prone keepers and at 30 should be coming close to his peak. Some signs, like his time at Juve, suggest he’s a good option, but I personally don’t feel he’s consistently performed at that level through his career (maybe the early years with us). Amelia is the other name thrown in with us, but I’ve never been totally convinced by him. However, saying all this I am possibly being a little harsh on these guys, as my standards are maybe too high. I want a replacement for Dida, but I’m sure like many, I’m thinking of who could replace Dida of a few years ago, when he was one of the best keepers in the world. I’m only for this signing if, and only if, there is some certainty that any of these two options will be solid and dependable, irrespective of how good they are at making spectacular saves.

I think these are the names that look most certain to join us next season, and I think only Ronaldinho really excites me. Zambrotta is a short term solution, but not really looking towards the future and Sheva and Abbiati/Amelia don’t exactly fill me with confidence. The most worrying factor of all of these players is that every one of them is currently struggling (well, maybe not the GKs), and 2 of the three outfield players are already on the wrong side of 30. We’ve made these kinds of signings for many years now and really it’s not a positive sign that these are the names we’re most commonly associated with, as it would mean our market strategy is the same as it has been in the last few years. If we buy these players, I’d still argue we’d need another fullback (Vargas is my pick), midfielder possibly (someone like Flamini or even Sammarco) and a potentially world class striker as a bear minimum (that’s not including a CB if Maldini retires).

It’s still early days, but if these are the kinds of signings we can expect, I fear that we will see the same problems next season (or in the near future).
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will be intresting to see how good they will be without him
Firstly i think the offer is untrue, but then with real you can never be sure. However, i don't think United would sell anyway. Plus if Real were to sell some players to finance the deal, players that might interest us (Ramos, Robinho), where would we get the money to pay for them? Real would charge an astronomical figure for them. I also hope it wouldn't mean we'd be linked with Baptista

Finally if they did buy him for that price, it wouldn't take long for Real to recoup the transfer fee through shirt sales, image rights, etc.


@ payne, it's £100 million or 120 million euros.
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:14   #1266

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Real would charge an astronomical figure for them..
They already said, after Maldini declarations, that if we want Sergio Ramos, we would have to pay his "transfert option" (the option allowing to leave the club if the amount of money is paid), and if I remember, it is 150M euros ... or something like that lol (that's ridiculously enormous).
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...Sheva I simply think is a bad choice. He left and clearly has left a sour taste in the mouths of some figures at the club. In addition to this, his career has been nose diving since he left us and he doesn’t look a shadow of who he was. He can only be bought in as a squad player should Gila leave (if he’s bought as a solution to our attacking problems, then I can only assume the management have completely lost their mind). Even then, off the bench we really need someone who is solid and reliable, even if not technically great (a Tomasson so to speak), and Sheva is not currently a solid or reliable option. Added to this, at 32 (for a striker), there’s very little hope we can do a great deal with him. I feel this transfer is a backward step for the club and a major risk (we already have two risks with Dinho and Zamro as it is), and seriously think we need to reconsider this decision, as we can probably get another striker for a similar price who’s more stable than Sheva. Even if we get Sheva, we’ll still need a world class forward to lead our attack...
I agree with almost everything else you wrote, but strongly disagree with you about Sheva...
Sheva would be the best squad player we could have, he's able to play everywhere in attack. Of course we'll need to sign another striker, not just Sheva, I think Boriello will suit us pretty good on Gila's place.
Look, we already have 2 very good young strikers, Pato and Paloschi, who just lack experience. Until they grow, he could use some experienced players (so called "short term solutions") along with the youngsters. Pato will learn some stuff from Sheva, Paloschi from Pippo and after 2-3 years (when Pippo's and Sheva's careers will be over) we will have 2 young strikers with enough experience to lead our attack.
You know, the best way to have success is to have a mixture from the freshness of the young players and the experience of the older players.
That's why I think we could only benefit from Sheva's return.

I think 5 forward will suit us - Pato, Paloschi, Sheva, Inzaghi and Boriello.
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No to ES, Yes to R10, Zambrotta, Flamini, Zapata, Frey, Borriello, Vargas, then add some youngsters like Marzoratti, Di Gennaro. Our problems are obvious imo. WC Keeper, WC forward, WC CD, then international class WB, + subs. We really need a box to box mid too.
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For a player like berbatov .. to be flattered in milan intrest ... is awesome

Berlu needs to open his eyes abit and forget about sheva ... i dont want him back and even if he did return .. every milanistaa im sure will always remember the fact that he left and it just wont be the same .. sorry sheva !!

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I would also like to say that it would be nice to loan out players like Paloschi and Di Gennaro to play some first team football next season. Milan did wrongly to loan Di Gennaro to Bologna as he doesnt play oftenly there! We need to make deals with clubs and ask for regular space for loaned players.

Also, some reports ( calciomercato ) say Milan will soon announce Ronaldinho deal. I cant wait for that moment as Dinho is a brilliant player and aldough he had horrible year I can see him playing better in Milan and Milanello.

So is this the new Milan ?:

--------------Shevchenko----
---------Ronaldinho --Kaka'-----
------------Flamini-----Gattuso---
-------------------Pirlo--------
---Zambrotta-Kaladze-Nesta-?--
-------------------GK?----------

Those players will not be expencive, except Dinho's wages. And we BADLY need another fullback with Zambrotta to arrive. Vargas, Pasquale, Lahm, Alves...

The best think with Dinho coming is that we could use Seedorf čike we did with Rui - in less matches but with more quality!And that would be a BIG plus for Milan! Yoan is out I assume.Anmd so is Gila.
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For a player like berbatov .. to be flattered in milan intrest ... is awesome

Berlu needs to open his eyes abit and forget about sheva ... i dont want him back and even if he did return .. every milanistaa im sure will always remember the fact that he left and it just wont be the same .. sorry sheva !!

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Please, don't say that not all the milanistas share your opinion.

And forget about Berbatov, he's too expensive, Tottenham would ask at min Euro 40 mln., if not more...
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--------------Shevchenko----
---------Ronaldinho --Kaka'-----
------------Flamini-----Gattuso---
-------------------Pirlo------------
---Zambrotta-Kaladze-Nesta-?-----
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What about Pato?
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Please, don't say that not all the milanistas share your opinion.

And forget about Berbatov, he's too expensive, Tottenham would ask at min Euro 40 mln., if not more...
Well equally not all milanistas share your opinion of Shevchenko

If we had to have the players you mentioned mrki, i would love for us to try this formation instead for a few games.


--------------Shevchenko----------
---Ronaldinho ----Pirlo----Kaka'-----
------------Flamini-----Gattuso-----
---Zambrotta-Kaladze-Nesta-Eboue---

It would lessen Kaka's impact i guess but in the plus column it would make Pirlo more of a goal threat and give us a much more stable defensive platform allowing the full-backs to get forward more as there'd be more cover.

If anything at least it would be a 'plan b' if things were not going right with our usual formation.
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Old 10-04-2008, 14:41   #1274

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Hey guys!! I am currently havin a "spot of bother" insofar as my health is concerned.

I broke my collar-bone Sunday b4 last, playing football (what else??) ...had surgery the following Tues, and a metal plate (with some top secret bionic implants) put in, which I have the option to remove (if I choose not to accept any more missions impossible) in a year's time.

Basically been at home for a week and change, beginning to go a bit stir crazy....but obviously not as bad as Uncle Berlu, whose insistence on the return of $heva seems to be a clear harbinger of senility, or hopefully, some resurgence of his presience with regard to footballers and what their potential impact on the club.

Either way, I would prefer Berbatov(or Gomez), R10, Flamini, Zambrotta, and Frey, or some keeper of equal proficiency for the summer market...on the odd chance that my wishes will have some impact on whom we buy.

Encouraging sounds coming from the press with regard to our interest in
Sir Bucktooth of Ronnie however, and the "confirmation" of (channel4.com, theguardian/football) of Zambrotta's arrival in the summer are positive signs of Berlu's ambitions on the transfer mkt.

I watch with interest what will develop with regard to the ultra's refusal to countenance $heva's arrival as opposed to Berlu's insistence on his retun.

Rumors are already rife, and on a UCL qtr final match day at that...scared to think of what the actual silly season will look like!!

Ok, enuf from me. Will keep u posted on my collar-bone saga as time goes.

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Well equally not all milanistas share your opinion of Shevchenko

If we had to have the players you mentioned mrki, i would love for us to try this formation instead for a few games.


--------------Shevchenko----------
---Ronaldinho ----Pirlo----Kaka'-----
------------Flamini-----Gattuso-----
---Zambrotta-Kaladze-Nesta-Eboue---

It would lessen Kaka's impact i guess but in the plus column it would make Pirlo more of a goal threat and give us a much more stable defensive platform allowing the full-backs to get forward more as there'd be more cover.

If anything at least it would be a 'plan b' if things were not going right with our usual formation.
Well that is the way Lippi used Pirlo, if front of Rino and Perotta and behind totti and Camornesti...with Toni upfront. It would be a brilliant team.

But have you guys noticed the way Berlusconi threats Carlo Ancelotti?? If this man ( Carlo ) has any selfrespect (which I cant see in him ) he would leave Milan now. Carlo said milion time she doesnt want Sheva, lied that he "wouldnt fit in the sistem" and in a TV show called him a TRAITOR in public... And Silvio says he will sign Sheva no matter what Carlo thinks becouse now "he is talking, not Carlo Ancelotti..."
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