All posts re: the Italian Football Scandal (Moggipoli)

According sports.it the verdict might be postponed AGAIN. We'd hear it between wednesday and friday.

Are they f***** joking with me ???

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In summary lads and lassies, whats the word of the grapevine and whats beeing said. I hear Milan will most likely not go down but start on -15 points. Lazio and La Viola starting on -12 but staying up. Juve going to B and also -9 points? Any truth or just guess work?

Everything is guess works.

Originally Posted by iregk

In summary lads and lassies, whats the word of the grapevine and whats beeing said. I hear Milan will most likely not go down but start on -15 points. Lazio and La Viola starting on -12 but staying up. Juve going to B and also -9 points? Any truth or just guess work?

Since the very beginning I doubt we'll face Serie B next season. But we're not going to start Serie A with -15 and Lazio&Fiorentina with just -12, 'cos they're in a much complicated situation.
My guess is that we're going to start Serie A with -9, Lazio, Fiorentina and Juve will be relegated and will have points deducted. And probably The Old Lady will lost their last two Scudetti.
But we need to wait...

Originally Posted by Nirvana FC

Since the very beginning I doubt we'll face Serie B next season. But we're not going to start Serie A with -15 and Lazio&Fiorentina with just -12, 'cos they're in a much complicated situation.
My guess is that we're going to start Serie A with -9, Lazio, Fiorentina and Juve will be relegated and will have points deducted. And probably The Old Lady will lost their last two Scudetti.
But we need to wait...

Of course, but those two titles have to go somewhere. Who will have them, Milan or Inter?

Btw, I think that Juve is goung in Serie C, Viola in B, and you'll start with -18 or something...

is it tomorrow that we find out or will it be changed again?

Quite frankly, I am getting abit bored with this, just get it over with.

If Milan is going down, I will go down with them

@ Warro Bantan:

I believe that the last 2 sentences of this paragraph makes you feel more relax


(AC Milan.com)

LIKE A PROUD FATHER
7/11/2006 12:54:00 PM
As of June 9, 2006 Carlo Ancelotti’s pack now includes five World Champions: Nesta, Pirlo, Gattuso, Inzaghi and Gilardino. Enjoying the games as both a fan and Milan coach, Ancelotti kept in daily contact with his Italian players. He said: ‘They were very focused. They always believed. There was a little hesitation after the game with the United States, but they always believed.’ Like a proud father that calls his sons on the phone everyday from afar, Ancelotti wanted to share in the Rossoneri's German experience. The coach has also had his thoughts on the fans and their inevitable mix of concern and joy. With a fatherly assurance, he said: ‘It’s a legitimate concern from the fans’ part, they want to be able to always count on their favorite players. However all of Milan’s players have demonstrated that they are a part of the team, there’s nothing to worry about.’ Milan are united, they are a team. Carlo Ancelotti headed up the united front, saying: ‘Milan have remained united because no one is to blame. Therefore, we are waiting, assured by the fact that we have nothing to hide or to be blamed for. I know what has happened with Milan in recent years and even before that as well. This club has always been totally transparent.’

Originally Posted by Pajo

Of course, but those two titles have to go somewhere. Who will

I couldn't care less about it... Did not celebrate then and won't celebrate now.

Originally Posted by Pajo

Of course, but those two titles have to go somewhere. Who will have them, Milan or Inter?

Btw, I think that Juve is goung in Serie C, Viola in B, and you'll start with -18 or something...

INTER Campion ????? Que bel illuzione!!!!!!!!!!!!
- 18???? We always have six point against yours team.... Be carreful, I 'm not sur that Inter is safe... But finally, with the last, last last ( 10 years ago...) last results, I hope you are safe......
Milan is the best team in the Worl. Nevers Inter can arrive to do 1/1000 of ours results. Milan are a Familly not a squad of foreingers players!!! It's time to you to look the veracity in face. Change you shirt for an Black and Red. FORZA, FOREVER, MILAN

For me the correct verdict is (No biases):

- Juve to be stripped of last 2 titles and relegated to Serie C with a huge amount to pay.

- Milan, Lazio and Viola to be relegated to Serie B with also money to pay.

- Titles stripped handed to Inter Milan as they are the 3rd of the last 2 seasons after the 1st and second become demoted.

But as for a prediction, I really don't know especially after the WC and the verdict being postponed till Wednesday

Karim, would you really like to see the Scudetti handed to you? In your position, I reeally wouldn't. Its all about the moment you win it, the celebrations following it. Getting them just handed to you a year later isn't the same. Its just not the same feeling, and would there even be a celebration? The Scudetto is better left vacant.

Agree, even if Milan was given the last 2 scudetti I wouldn't want them, wouldn't celebrate a title that somebody else already celebrated... I wouldn't call myself a champion...

Juve should end up with 27 scudetti, and the rest remain the same...

Even to this date, I have not been able to find what is exactly the acusation against Milan.

Originally Posted by Vadim

Karim, would you really like to see the Scudetti handed to you? In your position, I reeally wouldn't. Its all about the moment you win it, the celebrations following it. Getting them just handed to you a year later isn't the same. Its just not the same feeling, and would there even be a celebration? The Scudetto is better left vacant.

I didn't say anything about celebrations or anything, like Pajo said, the titles should go to someone and not left vacant.
With no biases, Juve dosen't deserve the titles due to their actions, but the titles need someone to hold them, if Inter takes it, I will not be thrilled exactly about it, but again we didn't do anything that would help us to improve our league position illegaly, and if the opponents, regardless of their number or history or status, used illegal methods for gainning better positions in the league, they sure as hell don't deserve the results of that shameful process, that's bad sportsmanship, that not sports at all.

I bet if you guys weren't accused for match fixing like Juve, you'de be on my and Pajo's side totally, right?

Originally Posted by Karim Abdoun

I bet if you guys weren't accused for match fixing like Juve, you'de be on my and Pajo's side totally, right?

Assumptions won't hold very well in this forum, as you may soon notice as people don't often assume here. Not replying you is not equivalent to agreeing with you . Rather, it's a hypothetical situation that will never prevail.

And finally, I think this has been discussed prior to the news that MIlan will also be accused, and not many people express their excitement about retaining the 2 trophies.