Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by rahul.acm

Chivu's place at Roma is probably the most secure after Totti and De Rossi. He was bought from Ajax for about 20 mn when they were in financial problems. It shows how much important the player is to them. Chivu has developed leadership skill from his time at Ajax where he was the captain of the team in his early twenties, which adds to his list price.

The only way he can go out is if Roma have discovered someone new from their impressive youth system. Roma needs cash now as they know they are on the brink of becoming a top class team so if they want they might cash in on him as he would cost nothing less than 25 mn pound as he has another 6 to 7 years of top class football in him.

You´re right...BTW, I´m a fan of Chivu´s game, but I don´t spend money in the guy...We have Nesta, that right now is injure prone, and don´t want another player that is more injure prone than Nesta.

Originally Posted by rahul.acm

Chivu's place at Roma is probably the most secure after Totti and De Rossi. He was bought from Ajax for about 20 mn when they were in financial problems. It shows how much important the player is to them. Chivu has developed leadership skill from his time at Ajax where he was the captain of the team in his early twenties, which adds to his list price.

what rahul siad here is exactly why I consider Chivu the only Milan-worthy defender in Serie A at the moment and in a class of his own. The above mentioned things are what Mexes and Barzagli are yet to show because being great in 2-3 out of 20 games and only good in the rest is simply not enough.
And Chivu is just 1 year older than Barzagli and 2, I think, than Mexes.

IMO, both Mexes and Barzagli are very good defenders but that's as far as they will ever go. I say this because while they have skills in abundance, I think they both lack the personality to lead and take responsibility when the knife reaches the bone ... and it's personality that differentiates great from very good players. In Mexes' case, I think it's also his being a bit too one-dimensional in terms of tactical awarenes/ability to read the game that will be a problem for him too.
Should he come to Milan, I think Chivu has everything to make that jump from a very good player - I think right now he is just that - to a truely great one.

My only concern about getting Chivu is that he is injury prone and that's something that shouldn't be overlooked either.

As for his price, I think we would be available for 15-20 mil euros as the market has levelled off a little since Roma bought him from Ajax. Also, last year similar amounts were being mentioned for how much money would Chivu cost should he leave Roma.

Its a sad case that Chivu's thread has existed for more than 2 years and MM and just earlier this year Chivu's agent said that they had not received any offers from any clubs other than Inter. The reason why I would like to see him or any other Serie A-proven CB is because Nesta is not commenting back on the speculations that he might join Lazio by 07/08. The rumours have existed since a long time but unlike previously he hasn't thrashed them this time.

I just hate the attitude of these hard-hitting Roman players. They will never taken non-Roman teams seriously even if they are a part of that team.

forget chivu. he wants to stay in rome, he will soon sign a new deal with them. we just have to accept that. i think he is too injury prone anyway. sure he is a hell of a player but i don't want another ambrosini in our squad. alex on the other hand seems to be exactly what we are looking for but i doubt that our management is able to bring him in.

i don't trust them anymore. they seem to have lost their passion and determination completely otherwise they would not buy players we don't need. probably it is also carlos's fault as he seems to accept every mediocre player they put him on the bench unlike capello who clearly says which player he demands.

The Corriere dello sport is saying we are looking to spend 150 million (£110 million) in January!

Ronaldino, Ronaldo, Alexis and Canini are the players apparently.

It mentions something about Abidal, Barzagli and Amelia also.


Gazzetta says that Van Basten, Spalletti and Lippi are the names to take over Ancelotti's job.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

The Corriere dello sport is saying we are looking to spend 150 million (£110 million) in January!

Ronaldino, Ronaldo, Alexis and Canini are the players apparently.

It mentions something about Abidal, Barzagli and Amelia also.


Gazzetta says that Van Basten, Spalletti and Lippi are the names to take over Ancelotti's job.

hahaha! corriere must be reading the forum, those are the 3 names we spoke about! I would go for Lippi, Basten wants to stay with Dutch team, and Lippi has more experiece i.e. titles and trophies to his name!

We dont need Ronaldinho , and Ronaldo... Higuain and Torres would be better.. Whos Alexis? Canini is promising, he has looked really good at times!

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

The Corriere dello sport is saying we are looking to spend 150 million (£110 million) in January!

Ronaldino, Ronaldo, Alexis and Canini are the players apparently.

It mentions something about Abidal, Barzagli and Amelia also.


Gazzetta says that Van Basten, Spalletti and Lippi are the names to take over Ancelotti's job.

lol, seems to me a bit over the top to expect that.

Of the three managers linked I'd go for Lippi most of all, am personally a fan of him and he knows many of the players quite well. However, that is only if Ancelotti's time is confirmed to be over.

makes me wonder tho, Gazzetta are the most reliable paper out of the big three, what has made them decide to post it this morning?

Originally Posted by Graeme C

makes me wonder tho, Gazzetta are the most reliable paper out of the big three, what has made them decide to post it this morning?

they say a new coach my come but not now but in the next summer (Alla fine della stagione, Carlo Ancelotti e il Milan potrebbero decidere di separarsi.).
if i could choose one out of the mentioned spalleti, van basten and lippi i would probably go for lippi. van basten is far from impressing til now.

the transfer rumours are from Corriere dello sport, don't know how reliable they are but when i read the above they seem to be on par with tribalfootball.

Lets just say a Big If, if Ancelloti was let go before xmas, Lippi could come in the new year (january), and Cesare Maldini or Tassotti could be caretaker until then.

Originally Posted by Graeme C

Lets just say a Big If, if Ancelloti was let go before xmas, Lippi could come in the new year (january), and Cesare Maldini or Tassotti could be caretaker until then.

do you think that would make much of a change?

personally i think the problem is more the team (and the lack of alternatives the coach can choose from) rather then the coach.

mixture of all really, lack of depth to the squad, lack of width, predictable gameplay, but blaming everyone is not going to solve anything...

There is a saying in the army, Sh*t runs uphill...

Originally Posted by Graeme C

There is a saying in the army, Sh*t runs uphill...

*lol*

have to remember that one

Corriere dello sport is just as reliable as Gazzetta but it targets the clubs in the capital. All these newspapers have to print 30-40 pages everyday, spare a thought for them.

Ok serious stuff ahead:

Getafe president: AC Milan following Alexis

Getafe president Angel Torres has admitted AC Milan are keen on their young centre-half Alexis.

"Milan are following Alexis, who is a phenomenon," revealed Torres. "But it is important not to forget that the Italian club already tried to sign him when he was 16 years old."

Torres also dismissed whispers of interference in transfer policy.

"Here at Getafe, where the president oversees everything, the coach coaches and the players play."

http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=17508

When the right monies arrive all the arrogant small clubs will throw the players out like hot potatoes.

Of the three coaches shortlisted, I would prefer the following order:

Spaletti
Lippi
van Basten

Don't discount what Spaletti has done. Compared to Lippi he far away from the heavy loads of silverware but he has done lot more than Lippi did by his age. He will be hard to get as Roma know what Spaletti is and won't let him go. Perhaps maybe if Lippi joins Roma then we might have a good chance signing him.