Summer Mercato

Originally Posted by payne

my take on chelsea's Alex, he used to play for me in Fifa 07, never bought him in 08, nor in Football Manager, though i did scout him.
Even though its just video games, i mean i dont think he is th best option, and really i dont want any other Brazilians except Alves.

If you are looking for a CB, look @ Kokampy, Metasacaker, Mexes (my 2nd choice), Ramos (my first choice), Barzaghi, Zapata, just to name a few.

I don´t go to jump in the "brazilian" question...but reading your list, I´m sure you are evaluating players by the video games and not in reality:

Ramos: As a offensive RB he´s one of the best of the world, but as a CB he´s rubish. Always out position, low defensive awarenes. One funny thing about Ramos: He´s a better header in the offense than in defense, and this is horrendous for a CB...and I´m not even talking about the several times he leaves teammates in a bad situation because of stupids yeallow/red cards.

Mexes: Good player, but nothing more. Juan in one year plagued by injures is outplaying Mexes in every aspect of the game. Promising youngster that until today, doens´t full fill his potencial.

Kompany??? C´mon, the guy WHEN PLAY, is more of a DMD than a defender. Maybe in your video game he´s amazing, but in real life he´s an above average defender at best. Until today...

Metasacaker: Another one...can´t outplay Naldo(a brazilian defender) in Werder and he´s great??

Barzagli: It´s like me to say that Afonso Alves, a brazilian bald CF, goal scorer in Eredivisie, and play for Brazil NT is the new Ronaldo...

I just saw Zapata play one time, so I can´t judge him...


In real life, Alex played 2 year in Santos and was chose 2 times the best CB of Brazilian Champonship.
Three years in Eredivise, 3 times Champion and 3 times chose the best defender. BTW, after years without go to knockout rounds of Champions League, in Alex era, PSV goes 3 times to the knockout round, with PSV best weapon always being the defense. In the year after Alex leaves PSV(this year), the team didn´t go to knockout rounds...it´s not for kidding that Alex is a hero in Eindhoven.

Now in Chelsea, in a type of game that several thoughts would be hard for him because of the pace, and because players needs some time to adaptation. Besides that, he´s the defender that more played at Chelsea(injure´s help) this year. And until last week, Chelsea was the best defense of all big european leagues. Playing behind 2 Chelsea legends(Carvalho/Terry) Alex is outplaying Terry and with Carvalho is the best pair of the team(the numbers tell this) this year.

look, don´t take this post as a ofense, Payne...but since Alex was at Santos(and we linked to him) I was here in MM defending Alex of this prejudice with brazilian defenders...in the begining it was hard because he was unproven, but now, after all his achievments in Europe at only 25yo, the facts are at my side...and not only the facts, but respectable people in Football like Carlo, Capello, Mijatovic, Van Basten, Juve board, etc...

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Originally Posted by mrki

If he wants a smaller club, then it is not Milan

Kidding, Alex is VERY welcomed in Milan as he is a fantastic player. To have him and Nesta would be like a wall.

Yep, we need a real big defender to pair with Nesta or Maldini. It´s unbelievble how weak we are in aerial game also, and Alex will help a lot in that area. The problem is, Alex is a non-euro player, and if this Sheva come back is real, I don´t see Alex coming even if Carlo wants, because Silvio is the boss.

This will be a BIG mistake, since imo, our big problem are in defense(RB, LB and CB) and in the midfield. We are always outrun and outplayed in the mid this year, and without a in form Gattuso because of injures, and a Ambrosini more slow, teams are really dominating our side.

Sure we can improve in with a great CF(Tony would be a dream), but if our purchases will be only for the ofensive side, it will be another nightmare season. We can score, period!! But we just can´t hold a lead, even against smaller teams...

I agree, We dont need more then Ronaldinho and one good forward. Our problem is that running potency of Rino-Pirlo-Ambro wasnt been good this year. Flamini could help in there.

Our fullbacks are horrible, period. they can play in Livorno and Siena, not milan.

If we, as Brasiliero says, do not change our fullbacks and our GK, and the tempo of our midfield, we can score as much as we want when we always conceede...

guys i am having this thought that mr x is henry, he wants to leave 10 m is the estimated price tag, we were after him last summer, i guess he is the man in galliani's radar, honestly am not sure he is the right man in for us but still henry

i'm pretty sure its Drogba.. right after Mourinho left Chelsea Drogba said he wanted to leave Chelsea and apparently he said he wanted to go to Milan to all his team mates, but it was only mid-way through the season, so he decided to take it back and stay put until the transfer market comes... it was also reported that he was in Milan having a cup of coffee with his agent and Galliani/Braida twice this year... he recently hasnt said any comments like that he's going to stay at Chelsea, but I think he is the guy they are talking about.

I don't like the fact that both Sheva and Drogba are coming, it should be one or the other and I think it should be Sheva for many many reasons. And besides does Drogba have European citizenship?

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

i'm pretty sure its Drogba.. right after Mourinho left Chelsea Drogba said he wanted to leave Chelsea and apparently he said he wanted to go to Milan to all his team mates, but it was only mid-way through the season, so he decided to take it back and stay put until the transfer market comes... it was also reported that he was in Milan having a cup of coffee with his agent and Galliani/Braida twice this year... he recently hasnt said any comments like that he's going to stay at Chelsea, but I think he is the guy they are talking about.

I don't like the fact that both Sheva and Drogba are coming, it should be one or the other and I think it should be Sheva for many many reasons. And besides does Drogba have European citizenship?

LOL, are you serious with Sheva over Drogba?

Originally Posted by mrki

I agree, We dont need more then Ronaldinho and one good forward. Our problem is that running potency of Rino-Pirlo-Ambro wasnt been good this year. Flamini could help in there.

Our fullbacks are horrible, period. they can play in Livorno and Siena, not milan.

If we, as Brasiliero says, do not change our fullbacks and our GK, and the tempo of our midfield, we can score as much as we want when we always conceede...

You´re right, mrki...
It´s curious how people see our flaws around the world. Here in Brazil, the majority of the press think like us. We are atrocious at fullback position, and very thin at CB. As we agree our mid can´t run with anyone in Europe or Serie A.

Goalkeeper: IMO Dida isn´t bad as people paint. He was amazing in our last run in Champions league and in the final against Liverpool. Said that, he´s old(for football) and as we saw this year, only deserves to play if 100% fit. So, we need a new keeper. Fiorentina will trade Gila for Frei, but for me it will be a mistake. Gila still has more value than Frei, period. BTW, the player that Fiorentina will to buy to replace Frei is Diego Cavallieri of Palmeiras. Diego is now a Eu-player(italian passport) and imo will be one of the best in Europe when start to play there...Milan needs to look at him.

Defence: kaladze and Bonera are good backups. With the purchase of Alex(15 MIL) and a italian youngster or squad player, we would be very good. Send Oliveira and CASH(he´s worth) for Daniel Alves and bring Zambrota for the left(where imo he belongs). A FIT Janku is a very good backup, and Cafu and Oddo also.
Alves(Oddo/Cafu)---Nesta(Alex)----Alex(Maldini, Kaladze)--Zambrota(JAnku)-
This is a amazing defense for any team in Europe.

Midfield: Roma needs money(and a CF) badly...so, trade Gilla and money if needed for Aquilani. Amazing talent and ready for our firts team. Like in NBA, you don´t trade big for small, so to trade Gila for a keeper and not for Aquilani will be a huge mistake(Giovanni, it´s true this rumour??). Get Flamini also would be great..one of the few players can match Gattuso running. A player to keep an eye is Keita of Sevilla, great atlent but isn´t a eu-player.
BTW , Renato is underused with the new Sevilla coach...class DMD and very underrated. He has spanish passport and would be a amazing backup.

Fowards: Pato will be even better, a real star. Pippo can play a few games and Paloschi also will be better. My dream purchase would be Tony, spend the money there!! If not, and Fabiano price and spanish passport is right, bring him. I´m not sold on Borrielo...he´s worth a look, but Paloschi has much less chances and proves more than him. Some players just don´t have the mentality for big clubs

We need to spend to be competitive, and imo to bring Alves, Zambrotta, Alex, Aquilani, Flamini and a CF is realistc(money), and would not hurt our chimestry.
GK: Diego Cavallieri, Dida/Kalac
Fullbacks: Daniel Alves; Zambrotta; Oddo; Janku and Cafu few good games like today and the trasition to retire. Besides, he´s Pato mentor in Italy
CB: Nesta, Maldini, Alex, Bonera, Kaladze and one italian youngster.
Midfield: Kaká, Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Aquilani, Flamini, Seedor(if he accept his new role), Gourcurf and Brocchi.
Fowards: Pato, Tony or L. Fabiano, Pippo, Paloschi, Ronaldo.

Imo, this is a amazing team

These Gattuso rumours are getting worrisome. There has to be some element of truth to it, it's even being mentioned in interviews (kaka) on the official site. It certainly doesnt seem like the club is pushing him out, seems like he wants to leave and teh club are trying to console him and talk him into staying.

My personal feeling is if he wants to leave, then we should just let him go---shows you how loyal he is, esp for a guy who's 2nd or 3rd in line for the captaincy. I know he's a great player and all, but surely we can get a more "complete" DM to fill his spot (Flamini and Diarra come to mind).

Any news from Italy about this? Gio--what are they saying in Italy?

Originally Posted by Lebanese

guys i am having this thought that mr x is henry, he wants to leave 10 m is the estimated price tag, we were after him last summer, i guess he is the man in galliani's radar, honestly am not sure he is the right man in for us but still henry

o well.. great. we need another traitor after the last one is gone lolz.. joking.. the main reason is more like i don't think that Henry will suits to play with Milan. he did played with Juve right? and Serie A just not suits his style. he needs to play fast football like EPL. but still great player IMO and never heard about he'd been linked to us

I heard that Chelsea is interested in Kaka. Chelsea believes that Kaka will leave since We are not going to compete in UCL next season. Well, great players always feels they deserve to play in UCL.
Your opinion?

my opinion is that Kaka will not leave...

dont u remember he signed a 5 years contract with milan in the winter?

besides, he cant leave unless the club sells him, which,imo, is out of question...

oh and also he dreams of being the captain of milan someday

Originally Posted by Ree_zq

I heard that Chelsea is interested in Kaka. Chelsea believes that Kaka will leave since We are not going to compete in UCL next season. Well, great players always feels they deserve to play in UCL.
Your opinion?

ask urself this. why will kaka leave milan to chelsea?

Originally Posted by Mystik

Galliani just said on our official site during his post match interview that we are really in negotiations for Ronaldinho and Zambrotta but there's a significant difference between what we're offering and what they want. He also says for this reason, the negotiations will take a while. Not that we aren't used to that of course...

Right. Galliani said "some numbers don't add up". Considering his capability of doing the math (remember the '180% our player' statement?), no wonder they don't come to an agreement

Galliani probabbly suggested that they sell us worlds most talented palyer and one of the best fullbacks all together for 25 mln....man, its really weird Laporta didnt say YES!

Originally Posted by Nalx

Right. Galliani said "some numbers don't add up". Considering his capability of doing the math (remember the '180% our player' statement?), no wonder they don't come to an agreement

Yes, 90% for each player meaning not quite ours.....