Fernando Torres - Milan

Originally Posted by omer

Berlusconi has won a lot in the past. But now it seems he's not too motivated anymore. Hes not hungry for the trophies like Abramovich is. Right now even teams like Liverpool and Athletico Madrid are doing better transfers.
Milan has a good history of wins but you cant just sit idle dream about the past.

Barca were stronger than Milan last year. And they still did better transfers like Zambrotta, Gudjonsen, Thuram.

The transfer season is a marathon, not a sprint. There is still an entire week remaining to bring in players. Barcelona and the others were not contrained by an uncertain situation until just two days ago as Milan was (and a very uncertain situation for much of the summer). And I don't recall seeing either Liverpool or Atletico Madrid sign anyone who would be an earthshattering signing for Milan (at least in the near term, although I would have liked to have had Aguero). So why don't we just wait another week before we pass final judgement?

Also, being impatient and constantly complaining is not going to change the situation, regardless of what it is. Some of our posters are doing nothing but irritating other posters. Calling Ronaldo "Fat Ronnie" in every sentence is going to make absolutely no difference as far as the possible transfer is concerned.

don't even compare Liverpool & A.Madrid to Milan... that is an insult... besides Ronaldo is fat... a fact...

Originally Posted by zZ[-_-]Zz

don't even compare Liverpool & A.Madrid to Milan... that is an insult... besides Ronaldo is fat... a fact...

Omer made the comparison, not I. And if you think Ronaldo is "fat," then you really have a strange understanding of the word. A few pounds overweigh is not "fat." As I've said many times, I would bet everything I have that Ronaldo's percentage of body fat is lower than 9 out of 10 posters who call him childish names.

Right, I want personal arguments to end, otherwise I'll intervene here like I did with the Ronaldo thread!

just look at the way his jersey stretches around his tummy and tell me honestly... do you think it is one big collective muscle?

Originally Posted by Rick

And if you think Ronaldo is "fat," then you really have a strange understanding of the word. A few pounds overweigh is not "fat." As I've said many times, I would bet everything I have that Ronaldo's percentage of body fat is lower than 9 out of 10 posters who call him childish names.

If you're going to be technical about it, then no he isn't "fat", but he's definately over weight. When you saw him in the World Cup did you think he looked ok ? He was slow, puffing his cheeks and sweating after he did a tiny bit of running and when he stood sideways he looked larger than he should. This doesn't describe someone who is just a few pounds over weight.

With your bet Rick i think you'd lose ...

Originally Posted by zZ[-_-]Zz

just look at the way his jersey stretches around his tummy and tell me honestly... do you think it is one big collective muscle?

Ronaldo.....

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/10d0b4ronaldo4g.jpg

Fat person....

http://www.sciam.com/media/inline/00...4B7F0000_1.gif

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

If you're going to be technical about it, then no he isn't "fat", but he's definately over weight. When you saw him in the World Cup did you think he looked ok ? He was slow, puffing his cheeks and sweating after he did a tiny bit of running and when he stood sideways he looked larger than he should. This doesn't describe someone who is just a few pounds over weight.

With your bet Rick i think you'd lose ...

Out of condition and a few pounds overweight is not the same as "fat" or "obese." (Both words which have been used freely to describe him.)

And trained athletes -- even those who are out of shape -- tend to have far lower percentages of body fat than do normal people. And they tend to have far lower percentages of body fat than people who spend a lot of time sitting at a computer. So I think I would win easily, even if it might not be apparent. Even people who consider themselves "thin" tend to have higher percentages of body fat than professional athletes (sumo wrestlers excluded, of course).

please supply a picture of him durin' the WC... or after... nothin' before...

Curious as what my body fat percentage was, i took a test and mine is less than 10% body fat ... so i'm not sure he'd beat me

Originally Posted by Rick

Out of condition and a few pounds overweight is not the same as "fat" or "obese."

Yes you're right and i said the same thing in my last post, so why the repeat ?

Originally Posted by zZ[-_-]Zz

please supply a picture of him durin' the WC... or after... nothin' before...

even though this is the Torres thread, not Ronaldo's but here it is...

http://www.sambafoot.com/datas/contr...photos/741.jpg

This is before the world cup and he definately shows he's a bit tubby round the waist.

Ronaldo 1

I've also found the reason why he's tubby !

Ronaldo 2

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

This is before the world cup and he definately shows he's a bit tubby round the waist.

Ronaldo 1

I've also found the reason why he's tubby !

Ronaldo 2

hahahaha...nice.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

This is before the world cup and he definately shows he's a bit tubby round the waist.

Ronaldo 1

I've also found the reason why he's tubby !

Ronaldo 2

that was uncalled for, Jim

hahahahahahah! nice one... maybe he isnt getting enough fibre, might be the reason he looks puffy!!