AC Milan make offer for Betis striker Oliveira

To be honest, I'm trying to be happy with RO's signing, but if one thinks about what a side like ours really deserves... oh boy, I miss so much our glorious 88 - 94 era...

Originally Posted by zafrul

I don't think clubs will want to let go of anyone important without any chance of replacing them.

Time is running out...

That's not fair.
We got rid of our players without replacing them.

Only one things matters to clubs when it comes to selling players.

if we get oliveira
i think
its better than nothing

fine, lets not spend any more money on forwards. Now we ned to get Oddo or maybe GIgi if we can, aldough Dida is brilliant goalkeper. Oddo is no.1 target now.

Originally Posted by Jeff

As a mod, I would say that it's our fault; simply because we sometimes let people go too far...

Ah, well, after I wrote that I checked that other place again last night and found that the Pessimist Patrol had come out in full force over there too. I guess they just have a later-arriving crowd.

I don't know what it is with Milan fans. The club is signing a very good striker; someone who (with the exception of name recognition) fits the profile of the type of player they have claimed all summer that Milan needs; someone who has won championships, both domestic and European, and who has a history of scoring goals in the "big games"; someone with pace, skill and finishing ability. Yet half of Milan fans bemoan the fact that they have never heard of him (as if they had heard of Kaka) or that he's not a "big name" (read: overhyped) and therefore can't replace Shevchenko (as if anyone could).

Many posters have been depressed that Inter "beat Milan" to Ibrahimovic (even though Milan didn't actually bid on him, despite the newspaper hype). Well if somebody had said to me the day after Sheva left: "Rick, you get to choose Milan's new striker, but you only have two choices. You can have either Zlatan Ibrahimovic or Ricardo Oliveira." I would not have hesitated to choose Oliveira over that overrated, overhyped primadonna. Oliveira is a better player right now than Fernando Torres, who half this board has been wanking over all summer. (That may change someday, but right now he is a better, more consistent and more polished player.)

I just don't know what people want. The Pessimist Patrol isn't going to be satisfied no matter who Milan signs.

Originally Posted by Rick

Ah, well, after I wrote that I checked that other place again last night and found that the Pessimist Patrol had come out in full force over there too. I guess they just have a later-arriving crowd.

I don't know what it is with Milan fans. The club is signing a very good striker; someone who (with the exception of name recognition) fits the profile of the type of player they have claimed all summer that Milan needs; someone who has won championships, both domestic and European, and who has a history of scoring goals in the "big games"; someone with pace, skill and finishing ability. Yet half of Milan fans bemoan the fact that they have never heard of him (as if they had heard of Kaka) or that he's not a "big name" (read: overhyped) and therefore can't replace Shevchenko (as if anyone could).

Many posters have been depressed that Inter "beat Milan" to Ibrahimovic (even though Milan didn't actually bid on him, despite the newspaper hype). Well if somebody had said to me the day after Sheva left: "Rick, you get to choose Milan's new striker, but you only have two choices. You can have either Zlatan Ibrahimovic or Ricardo Oliveira." I would not have hesitated to choose Oliveira over that overrated, overhyped primadonna. Oliveira is a better player right now than Fernando Torres, who half this board has been wanking over all summer. (That may change someday, but right now he is a better, more consistent and more polished player.)

I just don't know what people want. The Pessimist Patrol isn't going to be satisfied no matter who Milan signs.

Thank you for saying what I have been thinking about all of this. I don't see why we need a big name striker. The most important thing is that he scores goals, and this guy was the top scorer of the Spanish league in 2004-05, so we already know what he's capable of. In addition we have Pippo and Gila, so I don't think we have any reason to be worried about this purchase. I'd rather have Oliveira than Ronaldo, who's an over priced has-been.

I don't give a **** about glamour. Big names don't matter - but winning does. And if Oliveira wins something with Milan, he'll have a big name anyway.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

This is impossible, FFS i'm not saying he won't be a good player for us ! All i'm saying is that he's not the super star forward people are making him out to be !!!!!!!!!!!!1

Same with Tevez and Torres then, plus hes alot cheaper. Will be a great buy imho

Originally Posted by Rick

Ah, well, after I wrote that I checked that other place again last night and found that the Pessimist Patrol had come out in full force over there too. I guess they just have a later-arriving crowd.

I don't know what it is with Milan fans. The club is signing a very good striker; someone who (with the exception of name recognition) fits the profile of the type of player they have claimed all summer that Milan needs; someone who has won championships, both domestic and European, and who has a history of scoring goals in the "big games"; someone with pace, skill and finishing ability. Yet half of Milan fans bemoan the fact that they have never heard of him (as if they had heard of Kaka) or that he's not a "big name" (read: overhyped) and therefore can't replace Shevchenko (as if anyone could).

Many posters have been depressed that Inter "beat Milan" to Ibrahimovic (even though Milan didn't actually bid on him, despite the newspaper hype). Well if somebody had said to me the day after Sheva left: "Rick, you get to choose Milan's new striker, but you only have two choices. You can have either Zlatan Ibrahimovic or Ricardo Oliveira." I would not have hesitated to choose Oliveira over that overrated, overhyped primadonna. Oliveira is a better player right now than Fernando Torres, who half this board has been wanking over all summer. (That may change someday, but right now he is a better, more consistent and more polished player.)

I just don't know what people want. The Pessimist Patrol isn't going to be satisfied no matter who Milan signs.

Originally Posted by Rick

Ah, well, after I wrote that I checked that other place again last night and found that the Pessimist Patrol had come out in full force over there too. I guess they just have a later-arriving crowd.

I don't know what it is with Milan fans. The club is signing a very good striker; someone who (with the exception of name recognition) fits the profile of the type of player they have claimed all summer that Milan needs; someone who has won championships, both domestic and European, and who has a history of scoring goals in the "big games"; someone with pace, skill and finishing ability. Yet half of Milan fans bemoan the fact that they have never heard of
him (as if they had heard of Kaka) or that he's not a "big name" (read: overhyped) and therefore can't replace Shevchenko (as if anyone could).

Many posters have been depressed that Inter "beat Milan" to Ibrahimovic (even though Milan didn't actually bid on him, despite the newspaper hype). Well if somebody had said to me the day after Sheva left: "Rick, you get to choose Milan's new striker, but you only have two choices. You can have either Zlatan Ibrahimovic or Ricardo Oliveira." I would not have hesitated to choose Oliveira over that overrated, overhyped primadonna. Oliveira is a better player right now than Fernando Torres, who half this board has been wanking over all summer. (That may change someday, but right now he is a better, more consistent and more polished player.)

I just don't know what people want. The Pessimist Patrol isn't going to be satisfied no matter who Milan signs.

Thats what milan does,Takes talented players but proved ones and makes them super stars, if you see more detaly you`ll see that our whole team is made of players like that, Pirlo, Seedorf, Pippo, Kaka and some of the others, I would say the only one that was talented and proved in seria A and didnt deliver as much as we wanted to is Gila(my personal opinion is that he was just great so give him more time),

My point is that signing players like Ricardo O. shouldnt be surprise for us, thats what we are doing in the past couple of years or maybe more couse Shevchenko was like this skilfull, talented but not a star. he became a superstar after he joined us.The only star player that we signed in the past years was Nesta.

Its definatly better to buy oliveira than Obelix from Madrid, we'll see how he does. In the meantime, we need to wish him luck in Milan! The forward saga is now ower, lets do something else-defence!

I saw some of his goals on youtube and i think he's a solid player, only wish his knee wasn't cracked...They say he will undergo medical today, I hope they can evaluate the situation...like mrki said: we buy oddo to replace cafu at right full back and we can start the new, victorius season...

Originally Posted by mrki

.... Obelix from Madrid, ....

Thank you very much for making me spill my coffee on my keyboard.

obelix From madris isnt that bad but the price was too much for us. Obelix at his age doent worth 30 milion anymore.
Oliveira is Inrestind signing but there is a very big question mark about his fitness.

Originally Posted by sylrus

if we get oliveira
i think
its better than nothing

exactly....

everyone is complaining not getting a big (enough) name, but knowing our management, there is a risk that we ain't get no one. So somebody is definitely better than nobody. It is not like we are paying that 10-15 millions out of our pockets anyway.

Ricardo Oliveira is a good striker, but not exactly a dream transfer, it must be said.