Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by Tony29.

It's all good but you forgot to mention the main point : In case of no Gila-Buffon swap Juve gets to keep Buffon !

What you're saying is very good from a Milan fan perspective, but noone else apart from Milan fans will see this as a good deal for Juventus. Trez is rated much higher than Gila, Buffon also much much higher than the other 2 keepers mentioned and the difference certanly isn't 15 M.

Also, i noticed how you very often talk how player's price drops down after a bad season. Gila's price certanly isn't 21 M Pounds if we use that logic.
If Ibra was worthed 24 M, then Gila is 20 M maximum ( Euro).
If Gigi's price is 21 M pounds ( 28 M Euro) then Gila+Dida still isn't enough for Buffon.

This will be an awful deal for Juve and it should be clear to anyone. But , i repeat, it doesn't mean those new guys in Juve menagment won't do it.

true, Juve are loosing Buffon but the otehr two keepers aren't bad either - let's not forget that Abbiati had a better record at juve than Buffon himself. Also, in this moment when juve would need the money to build a new team, they hardly need "the best" (lot's of unnecessary hype and high pricing comes with this title) keeper in the world when then can have one of the best + a lot of money that could be invested in building the rest of the squad because it won;t make much of a dif if you have Buffon on goal but your difense and midfield is average.

As for Gila's price, he is the most promising young(-er) Italian striker around and that brings his price up a lot (for instance De rossi would be more expensive than Diarra, mascehrano not because he's better, quite the opposite actually, but because he's italian). And I don;t see why Ibra has to be more expensive than Gila - Gila had 2 seasons where he scored 20+ goals and in his first season at Milan he almost did it too, while being second choice to Sheva and Pippo ... this season he isn;t doing great but neither is anyone of his teammates as it's been an off season for the team as a whole.

What did Ibra do? One very good season in Serie A and the 2nd made 9 out of 10 juve fans dream of seeing Ibra go away.

So, all in all, Gilardino's price, in the worst case, would stay the same as what Milan paid Parma - 23-24 mil euros, which is pretty much what Buffon's more realistic market price is, hype aside that is, because let's not forget that the guy is already 29 yo ... 30 mil euros for him is serieously pushing it and would be due not to his quality as a goal keeper but more due to that title of his as "best keeper around".

Originally Posted by Tony29.

And Barcelona needs a new keeper. Valdez is ridiculous

there you go, Valdez is another excellent option for a Buffon substitute should he come to Milan ... I dont know why you keep complaining

boy i'd love to see valdes at juve

As reported in the Buffon thread, Milan are looking at getting Buffon, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Camoranesi AND Ronaldinho! Quite a miracle if all of that happened and a totally unbelievable rumour, though i wonder what sacrifices would be made for it to come true.

For me personally, Suazo has been told he can leave Cagliari IF he wants to or they recieve the right offer. I hope Milan are listening

Calderon has allegedly telephoned Ancelotti to ask him to join Real. I know Ancelotti is well respected in Spain, but do they really want him or are they just using him as a tool to get Kaka?

Finally a quick word about Juve as they are being linked with alot of players, especially Gerrard, Sissoko, Alonso and last but not least Crouch (in a cash+swap deal for Trezeguet ) ... if you want to take Crouch Tony, you are more than welcome

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

As reported in the Buffon thread, Milan are looking at getting Buffon, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Camoranesi AND Ronaldinho! Quite a miracle if all of that happened and a totally unbelievable rumour, though i wonder what sacrifices would be made for it to come true.

For me personally, Suazo has been told he can leave Cagliari IF he wants to or they recieve the right offer. I hope Milan are listening

Apparently we might be favourites for Suazo, well us then Inter and Juve.. Hes not a bad signing, better than Borriello and Oli

I don't remember, but were Cagliari interested in signing/taking Boriello or was that another club?

not that it matters given Bori's suspension, but I think that club was Livorno as they seemed to be keen on an Amelia for Bori+money transfer at some point.

How long was Boriello suspended for? Will it be a similar length for Flacchi? Does Prodi resigning affect Berlusconi's plans for Milan?

I don't think the final verdict about the length of his suspension has been made yet. Chances are, it will be a long period - at least 1 year, and a max of 2, i bleieve - but it will all depend on how the CONI will see this case - whether the substances were taken involuntary/by accident or whether he took them knowingly.

Originally Posted by Tony29.

And Barcelona needs a new keeper. Valdez is ridiculous

Valdez is second best keeper in spain, specially regarding his age. he has some flaws and you newer know when he'll strike with one of them (so does our belowed dida), but all in all he has great reflexes and knows how to be good positioned. If he only stopped chewing his freakin gum he would be perfect.

I suggest we combine "latest transfer rumors...." with " what players Milan should buy..." into one transfer thread?? Can someone do it, it would be much more interesting, this way we are talking same things in 2 threads.
Suggestion for the thread name: " Summer mercato by Milan..."

I read the Ch4 article about Suazo and i don't see why Inter are being seen as the side he's most likely to join. They have 4 top strikers, why would they need another and why would Suazo be stupid enough to join when the best he can hope for is the bench.

Yes he'd be on the bench with us, but surely he would start/play a larger role in our team? Ronaldo aside, all of the other 4 strikers have question marks over them, Oliveira seems set to go back to Spain, Inzaghi may leave due to lack of opportunities and not getting his own way, Boriello is likely to be banned for a long time and Gilardino could leave in any number of swap deals.

So i hope Suazo is reading this, come and join Milan

I have a feeling we will try and get either Eto or Suazo. Suazo might be more realistic as he has seria A experience, and well will cost less..

well with Borriello and Oli most likely on there way out, i have my doubts about inzaghi aswell..

Maybe Pato and Ronaldo could be enough, alongside Pippo. Gila can go if we are able to get Gigi for him. Apparently we are now going for Zambrotta and Diarra or Camoranesi. I personally prefer Diarra aldough they are not the same type of players. But if we are really ready to splash some money in the summer, we will be more tahn fine with just 3 or 4 right signings.

I think Pato, Ronaldo & Inzaghi as our 3 strikers would be a bit risky. One's close to retiring and has a history of injuries, another also has injury and fitness worries and the other is vastly inexperienced. I would still add Suazo to your list mrki to make it 4 strikers if those were the strikers we had/were to get.

I would be happy with either Camoranesi or Diarra, naturally one will be an awful lot cheaper and means we wouldn't have to negotiate with Madrid. However, i would still feel we'd need a central midfielder (not winger) who can create and has a bit of pace about them.