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Old 08-05-2005, 10:17   #196

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Kaladze at left back with stam at right back and Cafu given a break which he so obviously needed. I know every ones gona disagree, but Sheva should have been benched too. Hes toooooooo tired. And of course serghinio
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:20   #197

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A team that fights and wins the game deserves the win. Let's not be sore losers (like Inter) and say Juve didn't deserve it. They played well, they defended well and the goal was good. Kudos to them.

To say fitness is not an issue is ridiculous. just because cafu was running up and down the field doesn't mean the team is well rested. remember, they had to play fiorentina, psv and juve in the space of 10 days. two of those games were away. YES fitness plays a big part.

As for Crespo, the commentators never mentioned an injury to crespo. If he was injured why was he on the bench? I didn't hear about this. of course, if he was injured, then i take it back.

Inzaghi may have almost scored with his first touch but he didn't. It was a good attempt but I think a sharper Inzaghi, or a more match fit Inzaghi, or Crespo, if he wasn't injured or Sheva, would have scored from that chance. Not just that, Inzaghi did very little in the rest of the game.



It wasn't an idiotic cross by Del Piero. It showed he didn't give up. It went to the intended target - stam and maldini were asleep and they scored.
I"m not gonna get into this fitness issue with you because that's another topic. And yes i understand that fitness is an issue. But lookint at the last 15-20minutes or so of playing, fitness is not the best concern. Juve players are obviously tired too. They can't mark down Milan the way they did in the first half. That's why I'm saying fitness is not a concern here, at least in this match. Because Milan obviously did much better than Juve in the second half as a whole.

I think Carlo or someone else did mention it. But the fact that Carlo likes Crespo so much and yet not letting him play, I think it's still that injury, however light. I seriously remembered that being mentioned, probably from the official website.

Inzaghi did very little but Tomasson didn't do a whole lot either. At least Inzaghi gave a real scare to Juve's defense.

At least for this game.

Stam and Maldini were fast asleep. Only Dida, who managed to touch the ball, managed to see that.

It's a matter of how you see that cross. perhaps 5 years ago when u told me that's intended I would believe you.


Peace. It's not that Milan didn't play well. It's just that we didn't take our chances like the way we used to, and I'll only remain neutral about "Juventus deserved to win lo scudetto".
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:20   #198

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Well I'm gonna call it right here and make a bold predicton by saying thank-you to a former Rossoneri great Coach Roby Donadoni on beating Juve in the next couple of weeks and thus evening up the points with us and Juve. To me that is our best hope if we are even going to tie these guys.
So we need to win the rest of our games and pray Donadoni can rally his team to beat Juve at home in Livorno. He'll be doing Livorno and also Milan a favor as they may have a back way into Europe.

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Old 08-05-2005, 10:21   #199

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Next week:
Juventus - Parma
Lecce - Milan

Juve could lose this game with Gilardino in form.

After that:
Livorno - Juventus
Milan - Palermo

Donadoni promised Milan he would beat Juve. We still have hope

It's just a psychological blow to Milan. How many times have we fallen 3 points behind Juve this season and caught up? Heck we were 8 points behind in one week and caught up. Why can't we do it again? Juve are not gods. They may lose one of the three upcoming games. it can very well happen.
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well I'm not exactly worried seriously. It's just that it's a blow especially Milan didn't play particularly bad, and Juve didn't play exceptionally well to win.

But, they scored a goal, and we didn't. As you said, that's all that matters


But I still believe that Milan is up to the challneges ahead though.
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Next week:
Juventus - Parma
Lecce - Milan

Juve could lose this game with Gilardino in form.

After that:
Livorno - Juventus
Milan - Palermo

Donadoni promised Milan he would beat Juve. We still have hope

It's just a psychological blow to Milan. How many times have we fallen 3 points behind Juve this season and caught up? Heck we were 8 points behind in one week and caught up. Why can't we do it again? Juve are not gods. They may lose one of the three upcoming games. it can very well happen.
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Geniuses think alike. Hopefully we dont look like fools. I'm with ya on the Donadoni prediction!
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well I'm not exactly worried seriously. It's just that it's a blow especially Milan didn't play particularly bad, and Juve didn't play exceptionally well to win.

But, they scored a goal, and we didn't. As you said, that's all that matters


But I still believe that Milan is up to the challneges ahead though.
agreed. Milan's chances are not dead. Parma are not exactly easy to beat and Donadoni made a promise to Milan. I still have hope.

Benitez was in the crowd as well. (he's the liverpool coach for those that don't know).
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I don't criticize Carlo he's a genius and a match with a miracle goal will not change my opinion.

I'm sure he has his reassons for not usign Crespo.

Buffon is a shame for football. I'm so glad he'll never win the CL.

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Talking about blame and pointing fingers, what happened in Juve's score? That was an innocent play, where was Dida?

Other than that, Juventus never tried to win this game, focused only on defense.

Pipo lost a golden chance after a fantastic pass from Sheva.

BTW, theres no need to rest our players since the Champions final is like 3 weeks away.
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[quote=Maradona (10)]Talking about blame and pointing fingers, what happened in Juve's score? That was an innocent play, where was Dida?

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The question is where is Stam and Maldini.
And we forgot the bad tackle by Nesta also on Nedved.

And dida managed to touch it!
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I don't criticize Carlo he's a genius and a match with a miracle goal will not change my opinion.

I'm sure he has his reassons for not usign Crespo.

Buffon is a shame for football. I'm so glad he'll never win the CL.

Forza Milan
why is buffon a shame for football? because his team won? he's a great goalie and you can't blame him for being happy for himself and his team. he has a pretty good attitude towards his fellow players and has to be respected.
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Who would carlo rotate with???

should Brocchi, costacurta, Ambrosini, Inzaghi be starting?

the only one is Serginho should be playing instead of seedorf these days, but we don't have the players to rotate. Rui Costa cannot offer you what Kaka can, Ambro does not offer what gattuso can and there's not even replacements for what Shevchenko, Cafu or Pirlo can.

Ancellotti dosn't have a rotating squad. can you imagine if we lost without playing Shecchenko??? he's be rightfully crucified. he did make the mistake of putting Inzaghi on over Crespo I think but who knows maybe crespo wouldn't have got in the positions.

I'm sick of Carlo criticism here. he takes over from a long line of crap coaches and instantly gets us in the CL, 2nd season, he wins the CL, 3rd he wins the league, 4th he is 5 games from winning both, ok it looks unlikely we'll get serie a now but still to get so close. it's of note no other team did aswell on both fronts, liverpool are finishing 5th?!?!?! and everyone else is out of the CL.
You forget a certain Chelsea, they dominated the EPL and were only 'just' beaten by Liverpool by a goal which was proven to not cross the line, that being said they are the only ones who have done well on both.

As for squad players, no we don't have a like for like squad we can swap in and use our second eleven. The idea of rotating the squad doesn't mean you bench the entire first eleven and play the 'reseve' either. You selectively swap in and out players who are lacking form/fitness. Individually Kaladze, Pancaro, Costacurta, Simic, Ambrosini, Brocchi, Dhorasso, Rui Costa, Serginho, Inzaghi, JTD can be placed in first eleven and hold their own. If they aren't good enough to, then why do we have them? Another thing is, we don't have to use the same formation either (with Pirlo as the focal point), and we can mix things up a little.
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Talking about blame and pointing fingers, what happened in Juve's score? That was an innocent play, where was Dida?

Other than that, Juventus never tried to win this game, focused only on defense.

Pipo lost a golden chance after a fantastic pass from Sheva.

BTW, theres no need to rest our players since the Champions final is like 3 weeks away.
dida touched the ball. not his fault. nothing dida can do when the defenders give the striker an open shot. stam and maldini were to blame for that. also, DP shouldn't have even been allowed that second chance to send it in.
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Talking about blame and pointing fingers, what happened in Juve's score? That was an innocent play, where was Dida?

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The question is where is Stam and Maldini.
And we forgot the bad tackle by Nesta also on Nedved.

And dida managed to touch it!
The ball was not hit well, Del Piero's kick went up and ended close to the area defended by Dida. Thats GK territory.
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why is buffon a shame for football? because his team won? he's a great goalie and you can't blame him for being happy for himself and his team. he has a pretty good attitude towards his fellow players and has to be respected.
You can expect that kind of celebrations in the NFL or maybe in the NBA but not in a gentlemen sport like football. I don't blame him for being happy , I blame him for shouting in his opponents faces.
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