Milan CL Discussion

I agree. We must respect our opponent no matter who it is but at the end of the day, we do have the easiest group of all. It would be embarassing for us not to advance to the 16. As for Gila, he must score. Inzaghi is our only scoring reliability at the moment, so our squad is weaker compared to last year.

Originally Posted by ct

We have the easiest group eh?

Dangit!

I'm always afraid of our games against the so-called weaker teams. In Serie A, we usually loose points against weaker teams instead of those so-called strong teams. Got me worry a bit though.

On second thought, the group stage will be a good experience for Gila to actually score. Come on mate, if you can't score against Lilie, then, I'm not sure if I could give you more chances. Go for it!

I know that Milan dont play well against easy teams and tend to lose points against these smaller teams, but really our CL group is not only easy, but it is TOOOOO easy, I think if we play with our B team we can qualify with no problem.

No offense to the other squads, and on any given day yadda yadda yadda, but it certainly is the easiest group of all. If Milan can't get out of this one, they ought not even be in the CL.

Its all about winning the whole thing, not just getting pass the group stage. We will see how Milan stacks up against the other big sides in Europe.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

wow, Dynamo have deffinitely changed their philosophy from the Lobanovsky days of the club ... knew that they sort of followed in Shakhtor's steps but had no idea that 2/3 of their starting 11 are foreigners.
As for Georgia NT, I guess this should be expected ... something very similar happened to Bulgarian NT a little before and after WC '94 ... this is good for the whole team as players gain international experience and can only get better by playing with Europe's top footballers on a regular basis. Many georgian intern. players play their football in Germany, some in Holland, and a certain player in Italy too

Dnipro (formerly known as Dnepr) is the all ukrainian team left in UPL (ukr. Pr. league). Unfortunately they lost to Marselle Olymp. in the Intertoto Cup (0-0 and 2-2 at home). Dnipro with their good school and selection supplies (sells) players for DK and the NT.
BTW, in 1984-85 Dnepr made it to the CL 1/4 final (beat PSV and lost on the shootouts to Bordeaux).

didnt draw any of them lolzzzzzzzz

Ok, here we are as i promised AEK Athens. It advanced in the group stage after two wins against Hearts in Scotland 2-1 and in Athens 3-0 ( In the first Hearts played from 67' with 10 players and AEK score on 89', 90', in the second, Hearts had 10 players in 30' and 9 in 60' and AEK scored in 67' after a fake penalty).
The previous year its coach was Fernado Santos who was playing 4-3-3, Its new coach from June is Sera Ferrer who plays 4-4-2. Lakis, a good RM, winger who can create space by runing and crossing not good in finishing, Chatemai, a Finlanf md not something very good as well as Hungarian MD, Tozer. Alexopoulos a strong and tall Greek CB and Udeze a very good Nigerian CB, ex of my team PAOK Thessaloniki but he hasnt adapted to his new team yet because he went there 2,5 weeks ago, so he doent play. We played with AEK in group stage of CL, in the first game in Cagliari (because Milan was banned) Milan scored first but Milan finally won with two headings from young at that time Panucci. In Athens AEK was much better, they lost chances, i think two woodworks but the final score was 0-0. The game was in Philadelfia the psysical ground of AEK a tough stadium, but the last 3 years they broke it down to create a new but it didnt happen so AEK plays in Marousi, in OAKA, in the national stadium, which is huge, not a "ground". There will take place the final of CL. The last time Milan played there was in 1994 in the final of CL Milan-Barca 4-0. So Milan will paly there with the hope to return there for the final and the stadium is maybe lucky after 4-0 winning against Barca in 1994.

My opinion is that we must press AEK in San Siro in order their defence to make the mistake and to score. In Athens the stadium will be crowded, Milan should look its defence and we need our midfielders to pass good to broke AEK's defence.

GK: Sorentino from Italy but he had a car crashed and he will be out for 1 month so he will not play in San Siro. His substitude, Chiotis a good Greek goalkeeper around 28 who started as a rare talent but stayed state.

RB: Paoultaso, an Argentinian attacking back, he has played only 2 official games, is good, but not too good.
LB: Georgeas, a player who doesn't have talent but plays with passion without being "violent", unlike Rino sometimes.
CB: Dellas, ex-Roma CB, he was one of the best in Greek defence in Euro 2004, then he had an injury in Roma, he returned last year in AEK, he didnt play a lot, he now tries to improove his shape but he isnt as he was, he is 30 years old.
CB: Cirillo, you know him.
RM: Lagos in the most talented Greek player below 23 years, he went in AEK at June, in his first game he was very good but in the last two dissapointed, one reason for this is because he is left footed and Ferer put him in the right.
LM: Cejar, a typical Brazilian, good dribbling, good winger but not excellent, Sergihno will have work to do.
DM: Emerson, the ex player of Deportivo la Corunia, he is good but in big games after 65' he may be tired.
AM: Ivic, an unprooved talent, not bad but one reason for playing is because his brother Ilia Ivic who played in Torino is the general manager of AEK.
FW: Lyberopoulos: A scorer, in the whole game he may dont even touch the ball, but suddenly he can score, one of the best Greek attackers the last 10 years.
SC: Kapetanos, a n talent (23) attacker good both in head and with the ball, but he has still to be improoved a lot.

Other players: Maduka: Brazilian AM from Benfica not sthing to worry much about him, Zikos, ex-Monako's DM is still injured, Delibasic the ex-striker of Mallorca, Moras a strong central defender, Tziortziopoulos, an unprooved LB, Kiraikidis, an talented dm who is not playing. Kabadais, an 24 yeared old SC not something good.

Any questions?

Giorgios, thanks for the detailed description of each player!

and yes, one question, what is Lagos favorite color?

I guess the CL favourable CL draw has changed Milan buying plan up side down. Now considering the group stage not so tough Milan can use that to develop young players, why buy expensive Ronaldo ? I am expecting 2-3 young players coming to Milan soon.

At the same time it looks like Real Madrid is talking nonesense to us, 25m for Ronaldo? Kaka for Ronaldo ? those are considered indecent proposals, Galliani has blown saliva and walked away from the negotiation table. It is confirmed today by Berlusconi that that door is closed.

I myself don't like Ronaldo much , what Milan needs now is a player to replace Sheva ,who can play like a self-starter , but not a player like Ronaldo.
I want Torres and Tevez , they are younger and they have more ambitions than Ronaldo

we nned to win this one in 4 matcher, with 12 points, so we dont have tp play 6 times with full squad. This is very important.

If we play our nrmal game in the group stage we'll have no problems with these teams. But we will need an extra dimension for the later stages. One we don't have at the moment, except in the unknown of Foggia & Gourcuff.

Originally Posted by mrki

we nned to win this one in 4 matcher, with 12 points, so we dont have tp play 6 times with full squad. This is very important.

i would like to see that so that our young players who just joined have a chance to play and show what they can do.

I saw the topgame in Belgium yesterday evening between rivals Anderlecht and Club Bruges. And i must say, if Anderlecht plays like this in CL, it must be easy for Milan. Anderlecht didn't play well, although it won 1-0.
They sold their 3 best players (Kompany, Wilhelmson and Tihinen) although they bought a lot of individual young technical talent with Bousouffa, Hassan, Tchité and Biglia.
But normally that shouldn't be a problem for Milan. But, Milan had a lot of difficulties against Belgian teams in the past. Remember Milan - Club Bruges 0-1 ... So we don't wanna underestimate them for sure.

Originally Posted by Bram

I saw the topgame in Belgium yesterday evening between rivals Anderlecht and Club Bruges. And i must say, if Anderlecht plays like this in CL, it must be easy for Milan. Anderlecht didn't play well, although it won 1-0.
They sold their 3 best players (Kompany, Wilhelmson and Tihinen) although they bought a lot of individual young technical talent with Bousouffa, Hassan, Tchité and Biglia.
But normally that shouldn't be a problem for Milan. But, Milan had a lot of difficulties against Belgian teams in the past. Remember Milan - Club Bruges 0-1 ... So we don't wanna underestimate them for sure.

True , but have you seen second half of Real Madrid - Anderlecht?
That was pretty good , imo.

On paper we are better than Lille , AEK and Anderlecht.
But as said , we can't underestimate them.

Lille is a good team , they played rather well last year.
Lille could give us a hard time , they have nothing to lose.

AEK Athens , I don't really know them , can't judge them.

Anderlecht , they really have potential.
Our defence will have to be alert for Bousouffa and Tchité.
As said , they really have some good players like : Bousouffa , Biglia , Hassan , ...
They're only problem is the defence.
They usually suffer at RB , so if we play with Serginho we will probably give them a hard time.
Unless they buy a good RB before the transfer period is over , wich is possible.