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Old 10-09-2008, 08:46   #196

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I will download the match tomorrow for sure
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Old 10-09-2008, 10:40   #197

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The France game will be exciting since gourky is playing...hopefully he has one of the best fames of his career...surely Ancelotti knew he was this good right?
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:19   #198

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^^ If it's confirmed that Gourcuff is starting then I think I'll watch that game as well...or maybe download it later since I have class at 3
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:33   #199

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From what I saw, Gourcuff played very quietly in yesterday match !!
He played like if he had always played in this role for French NT, very mature ...

He impressed a lot of people, when you speak with French people who watched this match, everybody will tell you that the men of this match were Gourcuff, Anelka, Clichy and Toulalan ...

His problem is his physical condition, after 75 minutes, he seemed very tired !! He has to improve in this area.

And like he was presented like the new Zidane when he arrived to Milan, the only thing that is similar to Zidane is his speed !! lol

PS: France played better with Gourcuff as their AM than with Nasri whereas it was his first real selection ... think about that (I tell that for all people who told that it was a shame that we didn't take Nasri when Arsenal did).
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:50   #200

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What a match by Gorky, he was simply amazing. If he can continue to play like this, Milan can sell him for 40M and people will stay say Milan sold him on the cheap.

The problems for Gorky are his fitness and consistency, if he can maintain both, he will become a great player.

The problems for Milan is that if Gorky is to come back, one if not two of Pirlo, Seedorf and R80 must leave, who could that be????????????????????????
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:19   #201

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Yes, Carlo made his job in here also. Pato is next!

Wenger wanted Gourcuff, for no reason? I wouldnt say so... Bring back Yoan, new coach and ciao Clarence...
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:25   #202

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Yes, Carlo made his job in here also. Pato is next!

Wenger wanted Gourcuff, for no reason? I wouldnt say so... Bring back Yoan, new coach and ciao Clarence...
Stop thinking that Wenger is a god and that everyone he wants is good !!
The guy can make mistakes ...

Anyway, Gourcuff wasn't ready to be a starter in our team, it's clear, I think there's no discussion to have about that (it's past + he didn't play well when he had his chance, even in his first year). The mistake was to take him early, our management should have bought him and loan him immediatly for one year ...

The goal of this loan is to make him play and improve, physically, psychologically and of course, technically too. Laurent Blanc will give him some psychological keys and will make him play, so only benefits for us if we take him back then.
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:28   #203

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I'm not usually an Ancelotti-basher, but something is wrong when a player spends two years under Carletto struggling and ruining his reputation, and then - for the first time -goes to play under Domenech (the worst coach in the galaxy!) and he shines!

The way I see it, we should bring back Gourcuff next summer to replace Seedorf, and then have him, Kaká and Ronnie to compete for the AM berths.
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:31   #204

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I'm not usually an Ancelotti-basher, but something is wrong when a player spends two years under Carletto struggling and ruining his reputation, and then - for the first time -goes to play under Domenech (the worst coach in the galaxy!) and he shines!

The way I see it, we should bring back Gourcuff next summer to replace Seedorf, and then have him, Kaká and Ronnie to compete for the AM berths.
Do you remember the words put in some Italian newspapers after his first training in Milanello ??

"Gourcuff, il nuovo Zidane" and other stupid titles like this ... the guy simply didn't handle such a pression !!
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Do you remember the words put in some Italian newspapers after his first training in Milanello ??

"Gourcuff, il nuovo Zidane" and other stupid titles like this ... the guy simply didn't handle such a pression !!
They should make a law against proclaiming someone "the new Zidane", "the second coming of Maradona" and "the white Pelé" and so on. It only lets down the player, club and fans, once the forecasts don't come true. And then the media (who created the hype) are the first to start lambasting the player.

We have a few of those cases, where young prospects have been hyped (overhyped? - hope not): Besides Gourcuff, I'm thinking about Pato (the new Ronaldo) and Paloschi (the new Inzaghi).

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Old 11-09-2008, 05:55   #206

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Just watch the way Pato declines...just watch it. Its already started, the boy is being trained by Carlo and Dunga...pooor guy.

Im not saying Wenger is a God, but Wenger gets it right in 95% cases, its true man.
Gourcuff cant play in front of Brocchi but after few months he plays well with France serior team? under THE WORST coach EVER, Domenech?

Something is wrong my friends, its obvious.
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An interesting read. Have watched Gourcuff a few times this season and he has been exceptional. I remain a big fan of his, and can't believe the raw deal he got at Milan with even Brocchi and Emerson ahead of him in the queue!!

Gourcuff Content With First Start
Man of the match Yoann Gourcuff talked of his impressive French debut with Football365 late last night. Although he was reticent to speak of his own performance, the youngster was pleased to help les Bleus to all three points after a difficult few days…
Although, for the most part, les Bleus were workmanlike last night, there was one shining light during their 2-1 victory over Serbia yesterday evening. AC Milan midfielder, Yoann Gourcuff, who is spending the season on loan with Bordeaux, was at the heart of everything the French side produced going forward.

Gourcuff, who set up Nicolas Anelka’s eventual winning goal and also came close to scoring himself with a searing drive from distance that rattled the bar, spoke of the importance of winning three points. “We all had our hearts set on reuniting the French team with victory,” he said after the match, “I was very disappointed after Austria [a 3-1 loss]. I am very proud to wear this shirt and I wanted to give everything this evening and to ensure France qualifies for the World Cup.”

Playing like a seasoned professional, Gourcuff believes he can produce even stronger performances for les Bleus. “I put in a great deal of effort tonight because I had to defend too… I found a good balance of sweeping up defensively and keeping a link with our forwards. I know of their quality and speed so I tried to find them from deep. I can do better but, for a first start, I am content.”

Inevitably questions were raised about the preparation for the match as the French side, and head coach Raymond Domenech in particular, had come under a great deal of pressure after the loss in Vienna. “There have been enormous criticisms of the French side over the last few days,” Gourcuff stated, “People were impatient and the defeat in Austria called many things into question. Such wrong moves can happen.

“We wanted to play a good match so we could display that we have a strong frame of mind. When the supporters felt we were at 100%, they got behind us and encouraged us and we thank them for that.”
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Old 11-09-2008, 14:39   #208

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They should make a law against proclaiming someone "the new Zidane", "the second coming of Maradona" and "the white Pelé" and so on. It only lets down the player, club and fans, once the forecasts don't come true. And then the media (who created the hype) are the first to start lambasting the player.

We have a few of those cases, where young prospects have been hyped (overhyped? - hope not): Besides Gourcuff, I'm thinking about Pato (the new Ronaldo) and Paloschi (the new Inzaghi).
This post was spot on until the last part [which is now removed]

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Old 12-09-2008, 06:26   #209

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Another from www.goal.com


Blanc Wary Of Gourcuff Spotlight
Laurent Blanc has heralded rising star Yoann Gourcuff but has warned that such a quick ascent into the international spotlight may not have been the best thing for his young play-maker…
»Comments (7) Print This Story Send To A Friend Contact Us galleria zoom Few players can grasp the international game as quickly as Yoann Gourcuff did on his first full start for les Bleus. Right from kick-off, the young midfielder looked confident, eager and alert, making the correct decisions quickly, as a seasoned professional would expect.

Awarded the man-of-the-match prize as France beat Serbia 2-1, Gourcuff has been hailed as something of a hero in his homeland, which was crying out for such an inspired showing.

Presently at Bordeaux, having joined on a year long loan from AC Milan in the summer, present head coach, Laurent Blanc, has warned that a rapid ascendancy could be hard for the fresh-faced 22 year-old to handle.

“He can be satisfied with his performance,” Blanc appraised to l'Equipe, “Things will not be easy because everything has happened very quickly for the boy. It should not be forgotten that only a few months ago, while with Milan, he was getting very little football – not even 20 or 25 minutes!

“Though starting the match pleased him, it was a heavy responsibility, particular where he was stationed just behind the forwards. As it was imperative that France won, goals needed to be scored, which inevitably meant many offensive moves.

“I’ve told him that he was successful in the examination and that there will be further chances for him in the future.”

Meanwhile, Blanc simply wanted Gourcuff to return in a fit state to his Bordeaux side to face Marseille on Saturday evening. Although the midfielder has no physical problems, he may well take some time to come down mentally from such a high.
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This post was spot on until the last part
Alright I'll wait !



I'm not disgarding, though, that Dida was (and I stress that word) once one of the best goalies around.

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