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Old 03-04-2007, 05:28   #2161

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I think most of us would see Diarra as the better player when compared to Barusso hitman, but when you look at the plus points for buying Barusso you can see he's the better option.

He's younger, he's apparently more technical/offensive than Diarra, he's almost as imposing (he's over 6 foot tall), he won't take up a non-eu spot, he'll be available for a fraction of the cost (possibly 1/5 of the price of Diarra) and we won't have to deal with Madrid to get him.

For me he's the better choice right now. I also think if we have the opportunity to get Lucas in the summer then it would be wise to get him, though no doubt we would loan him out straight away to let him settle in Italy. Our defensive midfielders won't last forever, getting Lucas will be a good future investment for our midfield.

You're right though that we do need another 1 or 2 offensive midfielders, be they Ronaldinho, Mancini, Rosina, Quaresma, Ribery, Robinho, Deco, Rosicky, Anderson, Gonzalez or whoever each of us would individually prefer.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:29   #2162

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When you guys evaluate young or 'unknownn' players, have you watched their games before? I mean not only their action from matches highlight or only from 1-2 'blow up' games.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:58   #2163

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Barusso I dont know, obviously I prefer Diarra cuz i've seen him play and is more proven, but I wouldn't go for him only unless we get him for less than 7.5m. Diarra is really something.

We dont need Lucas, we have Pirlo, Ambrosini, and most probably Barusso. We need an attacking midfielder, we never really replaced Rui Costa. Anderson is something we must keep an eye on. Pato is also something special, I think it would be a good idea to buy him now and maybe keep him in Brazil for one more season.

For next year I'd like us to go for Tevez, to take Oliveira's spot, and Anderson for an attacking midfielder. Defence we will have to buy alot, seeing as Cafu, Billy are sure to retire, and Maldini, Favalli, Serginho aren't sure of their futures. My wish is Dani Alves, Zambrotta, and Alex. I also am 90% certain that Milan will not sign Ronaldinho this summer. He will stay at Barca.
Ambrosini is a great deffender but donīt have a good technique to attack and Pirlo is the oposite, Lucas know how to deffend and how to attack on a very good level, he must be more used to do a rotate with Seedorf and Pirlo, even because those 2 players arenīt made from iron and donīt have a good player to substitute them since Rui Costa (improvised) were gone

Milan canīt lose the opportunity to buy a complete middlefield like Lucas

For the attack middlefield, Anderson is the best option, the mixture of technique, agility and strenght that he have shall be great to play in Milan and also Calcio

About forwards my opinion donīt change, Milan also have great players that just arenīt playing their best because Ancelotti donīt know how to work with them and if a player should be bought this player is Huntelaar

Tevez is the kind of player to play in Internazionale, he ruined the team spirit, donīt play so good like marketing says and isnīt a ethical player

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I don't want to open a new thread so... which player from Sevilla would you like to see in our team (except Dani Alves who want him) : Jesus Navas, Maresca, Louis Fabiano, Chevanton, Kanoute, Kerzakoff, Renato, Adriano or David (LB).

i responded to four straight questions and the Avatar of PAOK Thessaloniki looks very nice.
I donīt think Milan need those players but Daniel Alves

When Luis Fabiano enter on the game tranquility and motivated, he is one of the better forwards of the world but he have a huge problem with him psicologyc side

The only team that he kept a good motivation by a long time were São Paulo and there were when he proved that he is a excelent player but when problems started to happen he just stoped to play him best and thatīs what he do till currenctly days, even he had some little problems he stop to play good

Unless Milan would have a great manager and a great psicology deppartament, would be not a great idea to buy Luis Fabiano
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Old 03-04-2007, 11:49   #2164

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If Milan purchase Lucas, would be a huge HUGE mistake to loan the guy!!!
As I said in the past w/ Alex, mark my words!! Lucas will be a starter in Milan in the first year. European coaches loves this type of MID...the complete package. And Lucas also has much goal for a DM...and with 10MIL dollars we can buy this kid...a BIG steal!!

Iīm also tired of this "no more brazilians" mantra Next year, Milan only will have Kaká, Ronaldo and Dida, and guys talks here if the majority of the squad are compost by brazilians. I agree that our base needs to be italian, no doubt. But only if the guys are Milan material or role players(IMO is stupid to waste a EU spot in a role player). I respect every opinion, but I donīt want a so-so squad just because the players are italian.

This fact made me to remember 4 years ago...I was bashed hard in MM when Milan showed interest in a young Santos defender, and I was here saying that this guy would be a WC defender... I had several "fights" with some MM members because people just throw this "mantras" as: "Brazilian defender?? Nooo", " the new Roque Junior", "itīs better to purchase Legrotile(sp?), Ferrari, P. Canavarro, Bonera because they are Italian" as if just to be born in Italy, makes a defender the new Baresi, Maldini or Nesta, or to born in Brazil make the FW or OM the new Romario, Kaka, Ronaldo or Ronaldinho...
BTW, right now, this young defender is regarded by many, and by a Italian(the land of the great defenders) coach(Carlo) as the best in the world.

One more thing, our #4 striker needs to be a Italian youngster, or skiled veteran(like Micoli). Oliveira is a good player, but isnīt a guy with talent to waste a EU spot in a team like Milan(To be fair, Oliveira was a urgent choice).

AC Milan needs great players, and a summer of Zambrota(the old one, not that scrub that play for Braįa), Alex, Lucas, Alves and a italian GOOD second striker would be my dream...with Pato in january

BTW...zlatanov(or other member), in this situation, with Alves and Lucas as EU players, only Alex would be a no EU player like in Spain??? Or for being Brazilians, in Italia Lucas and Alves would occupy a vacant for foreigner??
Thanks.

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Old 03-04-2007, 12:05   #2165

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BTW...zlatanov(or other member), in this situation, with Alves and Lucas as EU players, only Alex would be a no EU player like in Spain??? Or for being Brazilians, in Italia Lucas and Alves would occupy a vacant for foreigner??
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If I correctly understand your question - yeah, Milan can buy Lucas and Alves without losing that precious non-EU player spot - for someone like Alex, for instance.
If we buy Alex, however, we can't get any other non-EU players from outside of Italy (doesn't matter whether he plays in another European country like Spain, England, Portugal or whatever) ... we can still get someone like Barusso though - a non-EU player (Ghana) who however plays for a team in Italy (Rimini).

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Also, if in the summer we get Alex or another non-EU player from outside Italy, we WON'T be able to get Pato (a non-EU player) in January but will have to wait till the next summer (summer of 2008)
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:16   #2166

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If I correctly understand your question - yeah, Milan can buy Lucas and Alves without losing that precious non-EU player spot - for someone like Alex, for instance.
If we buy Alex, however, we can't get any other non-EU players from outside of Italy (doesn't matter whether he plays in another European country like Spain, England, Portugal or whatever) ... we can still get someone like Barusso though - a non-EU player (Ghana) who however plays for a team in Italy (Rimini).
It was accurately this that I asked, zlatanov. Thanks

And also, thanks for this Barusso case. I really I did not know this exception...
Now I have my Milan fantasy team...
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:47   #2167

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Why will we have to wait until next summer to purchase another non-eu player? I thought you were allowed to purchase one per transfer window?

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot if you can only buy 1 non-eu player from outside of Italy per season!
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:53   #2168

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Why will we have to wait until next summer to purchase another non-eu player? I thought you were allowed to purchase one per transfer window?

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot if you can only buy 1 non-eu player from outside of Italy per season!
I am pretty sure it is 1 non-EU player per season/year, not transfer window.
That's exactly why Galliani said that if the rules aren't changed soon, Italian teams would find themselves overwhelmed by other European sides as the current transfer rules in Italy don't allow for much flexibility on the international transfer market.
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Old 03-04-2007, 13:24   #2169

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I am pretty sure it is 1 non-EU player per season/year, not transfer window.
That's exactly why Galliani said that if the rules aren't changed soon, Italian teams would find themselves overwhelmed by other European sides as the current transfer rules in Italy don't allow for much flexibility on the international transfer market.
I remember this Galliani quote...IMO this rules needs to be changed, and fast!!
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Old 04-04-2007, 00:04   #2170

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How did Inter manage to grab Maicon and Maxwell then if they both havent played in Europe long enough to have their EU's?
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:01   #2171

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How did Inter manage to grab Maicon and Maxwell then if they both havent played in Europe long enough to have their EU's?
maxwell did not come to Inter from Ajax ... I think his contract with Ajax expired or was expiring and they, Inter, got him and send him to Empoli.
The rules forbid clubs to register/play two non-EU players in one season but not to buy them and loan them out to other Italian teams ... That's one way around the rules, so to speak.
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Old 04-04-2007, 08:09   #2172

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dida is a small child just a little more charisma think about crapy dida + oddo + inzaghi
i think as well as ( lucas or barusso ) we must think about ( boruc + alves + huntelaar )(faccin + marzoratti + pozzi ) are subs
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:06   #2173

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dida is a small child just a little more charisma think about crapy dida + oddo + inzaghi
There's understandably angry posts in regards to yesterday's result. Then there's just outright stupid ones like above.
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Old 04-04-2007, 16:16   #2174

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i think you are not even man enough to give reasons for such irreasonable insult but i can only say thank you
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Old 04-04-2007, 16:33   #2175

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Ok BMWTaylor, I think that your post above was a little uncalled for, and while u prob feel that way, making such a statement questions the intelligence of the poster, something that I am not sure anyone here should be doing....its too close to a personal attack.

I understand your feelings, since you are a Dida fan, and he has come up for some criticism in the last couple of games, but I think you are reacting a little over the top there.

Please temper your posts. Thanks.
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