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Old 14-04-2007, 09:27   #2221

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Well, I concede u make a good point there Stez, but how many times have Rosicky et al had goals in the baby box, or on the goal line and missed? The point is, that with or without him, Arsenal have some players, that at times, cant hit the broad side of a barn with a bazooka.
good point, well made

They are in trouble again, losing 1-0 at home to Bolton after Anelka came back to haunt them again! Fabregas should be a 10 goal a season player but hasnt even managed 1 yet! I think he or Rosicky will score today though...

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I for a long time, have regarded Henry as overhyped, and time and time again he has proven it. I am not saying that he isnt a hugely talented player, but he remains for me, not:

a) the best forward
b) the best forward for Milan.
There is certainly a snobbish attitude amongst some football fans that overhypes both him as an individual as well as Arsenal as a side, often overlooking the point of the game isnt to play one touch passes around the pitch for 90 minutes but to score goals. I dont like that attitude anymore than you do but i do still feel that Henry for all his arrogance is a hell of a player and i would love to see him at Milan, even if only for 1 season. Maybe Arsenal will do some sort of loan deal? |We could send him back when his attitude becomes unbearable
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Old 14-04-2007, 09:50   #2222

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Fabregas should be a 10 goal a season player but hasnt even managed 1 yet! I think he or Rosicky will score today though...
shouldve put money on that
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Old 14-04-2007, 10:14   #2223

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Considering we have Ronaldo who's not in the best shape of his life and we wheel out the

"well we had to start our training early which is why our players get tired easily this season and don't peform"

excuse at any given opportunity, i don't buy that Henry's fitness is not what it was. He's injured and needs a rest, considering he's Arsenal's main man and is played all the time, it's no wonder he's a bit knackered and has a few cracks in him so to speak!

You can't look at Henry and tell me he's a problem for fitness, he's a pure athlete and on top form he'd run past pretty much anyone. His ball control is as good as anyone we have and he can score all kinds of goals except headers. He doesn't just kick the ball 10 yards and run with it, if he does then Ronaldo and Shevchenko would be just the same. I'm fed up with this simplistic view that everything in the premiership is rubbish because it's in England.

The quality of Italian football is far from what it was and the defending is just as poor at times as in England. Yes the Italian game has defence as a main strength, but it doesn't mean every team in the italian league is any good at it. Against the bigger teams, maybe he would struggle for a while until he could adapt, but against the rest of the sides he'd be able to run amock as he does in England.

It seems whoever plays in England is belittled because they play in England and somehow the standard doesn't match up.
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Old 14-04-2007, 10:23   #2224

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Latest news are saying Juve got their hands on Mavuba and Ribery, nothing is for sure of course. But I wouldnt like to see both of them at Juve next year.
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Old 16-04-2007, 09:56   #2225

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I refuse to get into another "Henry" debate with my erstwile colleagues, Jim and Stez..so, if they want to bring Potato head to Milan, well, be my guest....but I would rather a young Italian, like Caraccilo or Quagliri(how do u spell his name)lera...

We three, or well, u guys and I will just have to "agree to disagree" on this one!
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Old 16-04-2007, 10:31   #2226

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Why not both Warro? Henry and Quagliarella? Four good strikers all competing for places, 2 great experienced players and 2 younger Italians, plenty of options and room for rotation to give them all the rests they need and to keep them playing as near to 100% as possible

No doubt i'll get flamed now for daring to suggest a player goes on the bench
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Old 16-04-2007, 10:44   #2227

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Jim, in a perfect world, I would say yes to that without preamble...but the man management essential for ensuring that everyone is kepy happy would be a tall order, even if Carlo is one of the best man managers around.

We would definately look quite dangerous on paper, but I really think it will be more likely for Ronaldinho to come to Milan than Henry at this point, both are unlikely, but Henry´s arrival even moreso.

The good thing is, that with Ronaldo and Henry up front, there would be no need for wingers, as none of them can head the ball very well...
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We would definately look quite dangerous on paper, but I really think it will be more likely for Ronaldinho to come to Milan than Henry at this point, both are unlikely, but Henry´s arrival even moreso.

The good thing is, that with Ronaldo and Henry up front, there would be no need for wingers, as none of them can head the ball very well...
Is Henry's arrival unlikely because you'd be at the airport telling him his flight was cancelled "Sorry Mr Henry, no flights to Milan, you'll have to stay in London"

That second point is just aswell as we don't have any wingers
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Not at all, quite the contrary...there are few players that I dislike to the point where I would try to sabotage their arrival in Milan....

Well, both Serginho and Gourcuff can be viewed as "wingers" of a sort...
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Old 17-04-2007, 03:08   #2230

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from calciomercato:

Il Milan punta su Alex per rinforzare la difesa. Il brasiliano del PSV Eindhoven è di proprietà del Chelsea, che non può tesserarlo. Pronti 11 milioni per strapparlo a Mourinho.


Milan points to Alex to reinforce the defence. He is a Chelsea player but cannot be used. About 11 million to steal him from Mourinho.



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Old 17-04-2007, 06:10   #2231

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This could be great
even if he is seriously injured in this moment he is only 24 years old and is a very strong player
Alex and Zambrotta and this could be it

Oddo--Nesta--Alex--Zambrotta
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Do you think that's 11 million euros or 11 million pounds? Could be a steal if it's euros.

Zambrotta and Alex could really refresh the defence. Marzoratti would probably come back as i can't see us getting Alex, Zambrotta & Alves ... though one can dream
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Old 17-04-2007, 09:37   #2233

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Do you think that's 11 million euros or 11 million pounds? Could be a steal if it's euros.
I think it's 11 mil euros - Alex has been at PSV for 3 years now and I think his contract with Chelski expires in 2008 (in one year, that is).
So, with the Londoners not being able to get him a work permit even for next season, they would risk losing him for nothing without having played even a single game for them ... and they paid Santos ~8 mil euros for him.

All in all, 11 mil euros may look like a steal but if you concider the circumstances, it's more than a reasonable price, I think.
Personally, unless Roman pulls a rabit out of his hat in the form of a forged work permit for Alex, Chelski have only one smart thing to do and that is take the money until it's still on the table ... and for that we should be thanking the coaches of the Brazil NT

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Zambrotta and Alex could really refresh the defence. Marzoratti would probably come back as i can't see us getting Alex, Zambrotta & Alves ... though one can dream
Alex, Zambrotta/Abidal, Alves would indeed be a bit too much but I guess with Zambrotta being able to cover both LB and RB, we could indeed get Marzoratti or another RB not as expensive as Alves would be.
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Old 17-04-2007, 11:47   #2234

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Originally Posted by zlatanov orignally from Bulgaria now living in America (I think) and still nowhere near the San Siro with an unhappy face

and for that we should be thanking the coaches of the Brazil NT
i wonder if that was Leonardo's plan all along ... "no Dunga, don't play him he's not ready, wait a while" ...

I would assume it would be Marzoratti. I can't think of many rbs that are in the middle ground so to speak. They're either youngsters like Marz & Ilsinho or expensive like Alves & Miguel. I'm sure they'll think of something.
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Old 17-04-2007, 11:51   #2235

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alex is never going to play for milan, i know im harsh but i know chelsea will never let him go, his a rock. Imho he is the reason Arsenal got kicked out of the CL, he was like a wall at the back.
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