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Old 15-05-2006, 09:56   #226

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No, Emerson no, please... he's quite old.
assuming Juve can be in big financial troubles would you mind robbing Juve and get him for 4 millions and a big VAFFANCULO ?

I wouldn't, btw De Rossi and diarra are first choices.

My list was just an example of the players who could leave Juve in the summer
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Old 15-05-2006, 10:04   #227

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its a very broad generalization you are making Rick. of course, we cannot expect a player to remain at a club forever, of course all players will eventually go. No one is denying that. however, in this case there is all reason for the fans to be upset, dissappointed and quite frankly deeply hurt. this is because of the manner with which all of this has transpired. you cannot even begin to compare sheva's move from kiev to milan. that is a move UP, that is a move that confirms sheva's status as a top player, and no matter how upset initially, it is a move that all dynamo fans knew was inevitable and a move that i dare say is more a source of pride for them than a source of regret---after all, their idol has made it to the big stage---that is the dream of all top players.

sheva's proposed move to chelsea however is a completely different matter. Why? i'll try to tell you: 1) It is a move DOWN!! to all football fans in the world, except for the arrogant chelsea phans, this is a move down in footballing terms. you can look at past or current history, there is no way that chelsea can even be uttered in the same breath as milan; 2) The timing of his move: after securing a new contract and publicly stating his love for the club, it was hugely unexpected that he would make such a turn around. if he had a major rift with carlo, galliani, or berlusconi then that's one thing. or if he was on the bench all the time, that is also a potential reason. but when he is such an idol, a legend, loved and supported by all fans and management, then why is he leaving? any fan would be unhappy; 3) His age and form: he is not leaving us, as weah did, when he was on the decline. sheva is leaving us while still in his prime!! we did not suffer too much when weah or gullit left, but believe me we will feel sheva's absence; 4) the whole "family reasons" excuse: we, the fans, and of course the club are also his family. what family reasons does he have to leave milan? what is so urgent that he cannot work out? or why is it so urgent that he cannot share the details with the club or media? quite frankly, "family reasons" is a bs reason. i dont buy it one bit.

in the end, the ball is in shevchenko's court, but if he leaves, or even by announcing that he may leave, we as fans are never going to be able to accept it lying down. that doesnt mean anything is going to change, but that sickening feeling in your stomach (i get it whenever i think of this), anger, sadness, regret are going to be there for every fan. after all this is sheva leaving, our sheva.....not simic, not kaladze, not seedorf, not pirlo, but shevchenko----such is the place that he occupies amongst the tifosi.
As much as I love Milan, I can't consider a move to Chelsea to actually be a step down for Sheva -- at least not in terms of football and the potential for success. Yes, they do not have our history, but right now they are probably the club with the best opportunity to win things over the next few years -- especially if Sheva goes there. We have to be realistic about this. Right now Milan is an aging club on the verge of some big turnovers, especially on defense. Chelsea, regardless of our personal feelings about them, is a club that appears to be one Shevchenko away from being the best team in the world over the next few years. Milan is still capable of winning the Scudetto and the Champions League. Hopefully we will make some good moves this summer and do just that. But Chelsea is almost certain to win in England and with Sheva will be the favorite in Europe also. So I can see how a move to Chelsea could be a great opportunity for any player. And hating them doesn't change that fact.

And yes, in a sense Milan has become Sheva's family. But it is not the same as his real family. As I said in an earlier post, anyone who actually loves Milan more than they love their wife or their children is in serious need of psychological help. I don't know why so many of you are so unwilling to accept Sheva's reasons at face value. Why would he lie about it? Until there are some actual facts presented that prove otherwise, I will accept that Sheva is leaving because his family will be happier and his marriage more stable if he does. Why do so many of you want to turn this into something sordid? It's as though you are grasping for reasons to hate Sheva. But when you hate -- whether it's Sheva or Chelsea or anyone else -- you are not hurting what you hate. You're only hurting yourselves. Why not wish Sheva the best and move on? Milan will find another great striker. Or do you not have confidence in our club? Players will always come and go, but AC Milan will be forever.
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Old 15-05-2006, 10:12   #228

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BTW: there are rumours accounting that Robben wants to leave Stamford Bridge... he's an outstanding and young attacking midfielder, just the PERFECT name to sub Ruy and join Kaká on the creative side of our midfield... so think about it, dudes: Gallas + Robben + cash... it can be a TREMENDOUS deal!!!
I would love to see Robben in a Milan uniform. A few weeks ago on one of the World Cup preview shows on Fox Soccer Channel here in the U.S., they had Robben do one of those "Plus 10" things, where he chose the players he would most like to play with him in a game. Several were current or former Milan players! Apparently Marco van Basten was his hero and, of course, Marco is now his coach on the national team. I remember thinking when I watched this that maybe someday Robben would join the Rossoneri.

Unfortunately, it looks as though his father is trying to engineer a move to Real Madrid. And his father was quoted as saying that the only place they would consider moving was to Spain.
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Old 15-05-2006, 10:15   #229

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Please Make Sheva Stay At The Club!!! Sheva Don't Leave!!! Somebody Do Something!!!
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Old 15-05-2006, 10:37   #230

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I would love to see Robben in a Milan uniform. A few weeks ago on one of the World Cup preview shows on Fox Soccer Channel here in the U.S., they had Robben do one of those "Plus 10" things, where he chose the players he would most like to play with him in a game. Several were current or former Milan players! Apparently Marco van Basten was his hero and, of course, Marco is now his coach on the national team. I remember thinking when I watched this that maybe someday Robben would join the Rossoneri.

Unfortunately, it looks as though his father is trying to engineer a move to Real Madrid. And his father was quoted as saying that the only place they would consider moving was to Spain.
yeah on gillette... infact i noticed that most the players that do that mention around 5 milan players atleast
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Old 15-05-2006, 11:32   #231

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So now it seems that, most of u would not mind Sheva leaving as long as Chelsea pays a huge sum with Gallas and Robben, how about Lampard too?

Then with the money, Milan will go out and get Eto and Henry. Now thats what I call a great team.

For real, I still think that Sheva might end up staying in Milan as long as Milan go out and improve the squad. Like adding Gallas, Oddo,Sneijder, Diarra and De Rossi.
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Old 15-05-2006, 13:11   #232

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Unfortunately, it looks as though his father is trying to engineer a move to Real Madrid. And his father was quoted as saying that the only place they would consider moving was to Spain.
What a pitty, I didn't know that...
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For real, I still think that Sheva might end up staying in Milan as long as Milan go out and improve the squad. Like adding Gallas, Oddo,Sneijder, Diarra and De Rossi.
Well, of couse Sheva is a master class striker, and if he stays with us and at the same time we manage to pick the players you listed, I guess we are fine.
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Old 15-05-2006, 15:28   #234

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There is another possibility, that I havent seen mentioned here(though I may have missed it)...but I doubt it as realistic: Sheva could be doing a "Totti"...

What is a Totti: A Totti is when a player makes this sort of statement: "I love this club, yadda yadda yadda, but I will consider leaving if the I feel that the club´s ambitions dont match mine"...

Could it be that Sheva is sending Berlu a message? Spend big on transfers this season, bring in some younger defenders, or I will leave?


Hmmmmm clutching at straws here..but these are desparate times, and as such, call for desparate measures...

Having said that, I have almost, if not completely come to terms with his departure, and if I am not sure of taking another breath, I am sure that we WILL spend BIG to replace him, and we will be the same, or better Milan come next season.

Indeed, I hope the "UCL Curse" hits him as well...it happened to Viera, and to Owen...and I certainly hope that if he leaves for Chelsea, that they again go out in the semi´s, and we bag #7...heh heh heh...still hurts though...and will continue to hurt for sometime to come...

Ah well...as always: FORZA MIIIIIIIIILAN!!!
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Old 15-05-2006, 20:20   #235

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Like you, Warro, I am now resigned that he is leaving. It was very hard to grasp, and didn't come without some tears after watching a video of his best goals. If he ends up staying, it will a great moment, something more that expected because I am now 80% certain thay he will leave.

I already wrote a very long 'Tribute to Sheva' thread that I have save on my computer, but I hesitated to post it before it was official. Let's hope that post was just a huge waste of my time
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there are these 2 members (kyara and besi) at acmilanonline forum. I just cannot say how much effort they have put in to send requests to sheva.
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there are these 2 members (kyara and besi) at acmilanonline forum. I just cannot say how much effort they have put in to send requests to sheva.
What did they do?
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Old 15-05-2006, 21:24   #238

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Someone want Sheva=GBP70M or 60M+Gallas, that would be pretty TOO good for us which will not happen. To be realistic Gallas+Robben+GBP35M would be the max we can get but even that is really a dream-come-true if we can turn that out to:
Sheva=Gallas+Robben+Diarra+Henry+Oddo+Chris(or Chivu). Now I am really excited about this idea.

Hitmann is worried that too many players coming in at a time may creat a mess, that is a reality but we can secure the players first and take in as needed or loan sone of them.

Then we can offload: Rui, Simic, Stam, Voggel or Ambrosini; retire: Billy, and give Seedorf, Pirlo, Kaka, Maldini, Serginho, Nesta, Kala, Gattuso a relief by rotating players so that they are always the best or change the play system if necessary.

Some one want Totti, Zlatan or Lampard... I feel that those players will give us trouble in the dressing room.
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What did they do?
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sent directly to him at milanello ( hopefully it reaches his hands)

besides they have started the petition and spread all across the football forums.
all this time they just have focussed their mind on sheva.

there is no way that he is gonna stay with us but these ppl still haven't lost any hopes. they are going to his site posting stuff everytime! If all this influences his well they might just turn the tides.
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we both love money

What a joke they didn't even have a shirt ready for mini kaiser
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