Summer Mercato 2010

I don't know what's your problem with Ronnie. He broke his mental wall and started using his technique and he also started to organise game in his area. He well co-operates with Ambrosini and Antoni. His problem is, that he goes centre not very often and he rarely takes responsibility for scoring goals. He'd rather play milion passes to Borriello than try to do it on his own. That's why opinion about Dinho is better, when we have got Pato on the right side. Xandre is more-creative-thinkig player, so he can easily predict Dinho's thoughts. Against Juve I saw Ronaldinho playing not only on the left side, but also going to the centre and playing in other areas of pitch. He should work on loosing weights and improving speed. Hope that Allegri won't waste Leonardo's work after bringing back Ronaldinho we all loves.

I can't see Pirlo in the long-term plan of team. In the midfield we need someone better in tackle. All these opinion about Andrea as a well organiser, deep playmaker seems to be a bull****. We don't need a man who isn't useful during defending, but can play "so fu**** elegant ball" to the partner who is 10 metres from him. We should look for somebody similar to Gokhan Inler or Daniele De Rossi, ekhm... someone like Hernanes.

Originally Posted by Siregar

Come on Milan, bring Jucilei. I would be very happy with cheap but smart transfers.

The more we wait, the more the price grows... Damn, since last year I'm talking about this guy.
How we can pay so easily for Grimmi, Carddaccio, Viudez and delay on Jucilei?!

Brasileiro, from 3 for Jucilei, Arouca and Hernanes who would you choose if Milan try to buy two of them (if Milan have the money)? Tuttosport (said football-italia) talked about Hernanes.

Hard question, my friend... Imo all of them will be great in Europe(if used right). Jucilei comes first for me, but the other two a rate REALLY righ too. Three very good persons and high character players. A dream for any coach to work with and for a club to spend money.

Between Hernanes and Arouca, it will depend on the price, imo. If São Paulo ask for too much(as last season), I'm all for Arouca and Mario Fernandes (Italian passport) with that money. If not, I would pay for both(plus Mario) and loan one of the them(because of non EU spot) to a Serie A team.

Since the world isn't fair, and we are struggling to pay 6 millions for Jucilei... With my heart broken, I would chose Hernanes because of his shoot from distance... and he can do better as a #10(if needed) than Arouca. But thats a very hard decision to take since Arouca is a amazing player. Think about a little less skilled Seedorf(but more fast and with a amazing work rate), playing as a DM... thats Arouca!

One more question, what are the differences among those 3 players, what are the advantage and disadvantages from those players?

Man, all can play several positions, all can play: DM, Holder, box-to-box, RMD, LMD. Arouca and Hernanes can do Pirlo's role(I don't like Jucilei there). Jucilei play some right-back. All are skilled, but Hernanes is more natural as AMD...

Disvantages: Hernanes price. Also, he has a little of Pirlo mentality(but much more athletic). While skilled, can't picture Arouca and Jucilei in AMD position. But since Simplicio manage to do it in Serie A, I think they can do too... Who knows?!?!

Imo any of Arouca, Jucilei and Hernanes are worth our precious non-EU spot. A summer with Jucilei, one of the other two and Mario Fernandes(Italian passport) would be a amazing(and realistic) step to the right direction.

I just hope we don't spend the non-EU spot on Otamendi, with a guy like Mario Fernandes(Italian passport Milan mgt!!!) on the market... and for half of the price. Watched Otamendi a lot, and can't understand the hype... and I'm not even tanking in account the game against Brazil in Argentine...

Originally Posted by Rossoneri Fuego

i think for some reason we'll go after ibra maybe it's just wishful thinking but, he's a
6'4" striker who creates his own shots and knows italy well, imagine sell ronaldinho, klass keep borriello 2 wide backs and 1 or 2 midfielders and we're set, i just don't want to sell pato but for 60 million? hmm the reason i say this because pato doesn't create shots, could create space lanes but no passes assist,

NO ibra... even if he is for free!!!! we dont want a "big show pony", "coward", "big game no show", "unriliable in may" ... get any one else!!!

DREAM MILAN...........for a 40K investment


i would certainly make pato the CF which is his best position, with krasic on the right & gaucho in the left...who said CFs should be tall n strong, if we have a guy like pato (who is best at CF .....and wasted at RF)

that with a midfield trio of pastore/hernanes ------ pirlo --------flamini

& a defence of mario.f-------nesta/mexes-------t.silva--------antonini


& a world class gk ---i would spend a fortune for lloris......he is a sureshot contender for future world's best gk..

WOW Brasileiro, thank you for your explanation. Galliani should really read this room.

About Fernandez, does he really have EU-pass?

http://transfermarkt.de/de/mario-fer...er_102740.html

here it does not say he is has eu status

Non-EU players


Unlike La Liga imposed quota on numbers of non-EU players on each clubs; Serie A clubs could sign non-EU players as many as available on domestic transfer. But since 2003-04 season, quota was imposed on each clubs for signing non-EU, non-EFTA and non-Swiss player from abroad each season, an provisional measures was set in 2002-03 season, which only allowed Serie A & B club to sign 1 non-EU player in 2002 summer transfer windows.

In the mid of 2000-01 season, the old quota system was abolished, which no more limited each team to have not more than 5 non-EU player and used no more than 3 in each match. Co-current with the abolish of the quota, FIGC had investigated footballers that using a fake passport. Alberto and Warley, Alejandro Da Silva and Jorginho Paulista of Udinese, Fábio Júnior and Gustavo Bartelt of Roma, Dida of Milan, Alvaro Recoba of Inter, Thomas Job, Francis Ze, Mekongo Ondoa of Sampdoria, Jeda and Dede of Vicenza were banned in July 2001, for 6 months to 1 year. However, most of the ban were reduced.

Since 2008-09 season, 3 quotas will be awarded to clubs that do not have non-EU players in their squad; Clubs that have one non-EU player have 2 quotas.

Those clubs which have 2 non-EU players, they will be awarded 1 quota and 1 conditional quota, which awarded after: 1) Transferred 1 non-EU player abroad, or 2) Release 1 non-EU player as free agent, or 3) A non-EU player received EU nationality.

Clubs with 3 or more non-EU players, will have 2 conditional quotas, but releasing two non-EU players as free agent, will only have 1 quota instead of 2. Serie B and Lega Pro clubs cannot sign non-EU player from abroad, except those followed the club promoted from Serie D.

Big clubs with many foreigner, usually borrowed quota from other clubs which have few foreigner or no foreigner, in order to sign more non-EU players . Adrian Mutu joined Juventus via Livorno in 2005, as at that time Romania is not a member of EU. Other case likes Júlio César and Maxwell joined Internazionale from Chievo and Empoli respectively.

Originally Posted by Siregar

WOW Brasileiro, thank you for your explanation. Galliani should really read this room.

About Fernandez, does he really have EU-pass?

The biggest problem we face getting Mario Fernandes is apparently Barcelona, Porto and Inter are all seriously looking at him. Inter are said to be in pole position as the Gremio president acknowledged their interest.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/584/braz...tre-back-mario

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

The biggest problem we face getting Mario Fernandes is apparently Barcelona, Porto and Inter are all seriously looking at him. Inter are said to be in pole position as the Gremio president acknowledged their interest.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/584/braz...tre-back-mario

same happened with pato and silva... oh there was leonardo

The biggest problem we face is a tight inept management.

Originally Posted by Tony75

The biggest problem we face is a tight inept management.

There is a shocker.

indeed, totally.

Originally Posted by HO-YOUNG

NO ibra... even if he is for free!!!! we dont want a "big show pony", "coward", "big game no show", "unriliable in may" ... get any one else!!!

+1
Also he's slow and a dirty player (likes to kick ppl intentionally )
No thanks. In a world with Dzeko, Nilmar, Balo, Torres (my fav) etc Ibra is not the only hotshot striker out there.

I've heard rumours about Robinho. What do you think? :D

Originally Posted by Siregar

WOW Brasileiro, thank you for your explanation. Galliani should really read this room.
About Fernandez, does he really have EU-pass?

You're welcome, Siregar
Man, I wish they read too... When I started to hype Jucilei here, I was taking in perspective our new budget situation, since he was a "nobody" even in Brazil. The first game that I saw him(debut against Internacional, if I'm not wrong) I was shocked! Who is this lad? Can't believe it's his first game at Corinthians(where several good players choked) and against a big team like Inter... and the boy was coming for a team that play the 3rd division of Brasileirão.

I just needed to watch 2 more games, hear about how he is a really good boy(with high character), hard worker to know he would be a steal. Also, the big majority of you guys, when had the chance to watch him, also became impressed. So, I need to ask... Where are our scouts in Brazil?!?! It's easy to "find" Ganso's, Giuliano's and Neymar's, but we don play this game anymore...

Originally Posted by Lebanese

http://transfermarkt.de/de/mario-fer...er_102740.html
here it does not say he is has eu status

I read in several papers in Brazil he had, but they also can be wrong. Maybe the player told them this, but is just in path to get one... Now you put a doubt in my mind

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

The biggest problem we face getting Mario Fernandes is apparently Barcelona, Porto and Inter are all seriously looking at him. Inter are said to be in pole position as the Gremio president acknowledged their interest.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/584/braz...tre-back-mario

Bad news... We still have a BIG name here in Brazil. But even the Brazilian press are worried about our(lack) movements. Like in others countries, we are making a big damage to our image. Also, the loss of Leo hurts a lot...

Grêmio management, unlike Internacional, sell fast(and more easily), so we better hurry up if we want a amazing young player(with first team experience) that can play all back four postitions...