Winter Mercato

Originally Posted by Milancelotti

Comparing Zidan to Ronaldo is like

Comparing Maldini to Bramble.

I think Tony was referring to the one and only Ronaldo, the one playing for Milan, not the Ronaldo-wanna-be fro Gattuso's wet dreams


@ drucurl: I believe Milancelotti was talking about CR7, not R9

seems like Sheva has expressed his interest to return to milan to Berlusconi.. (tribal football also had somethng saying that Kirsten spoke to Galliani about a return cuz his life is very unhappy)

i would welcome sheva with open arms.. im just waitin for him to comment on the situation..



guys..even if we win the CL what im afraid of is that we will not make any transfers..true that we are a good team and reached this far..but lets not kid ourselves.. players like Brocchi, Simic, Cafu (currently), Boriello,Gilardino are not players that deserve to play in Milan.. we need to become more stronger..i dont want to buy 6 new players destroying the chemistry in the team..but just buyin 3 or 4 world class players that can make a difference.. i mean look at ronaldo's transfer.. sinc he came milan has been playing beautifl football in all competitions..his transfer gave every1 a much much needed boost.. after that we got into gear and never stopped..

milan has to sign a few plaayers no matter what the outcome of Athens is.. but we will support milan no matter what.. even if Gila will still be there next year!

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

seems like Sheva has expressed his interest to return to milan to Berlusconi.. (tribal football also had somethng saying that Kirsten spoke to Galliani about a return cuz his life is very unhappy)

i would welcome sheva with open arms.. im just waitin for him to comment on the situation..



guys..even if we win the CL what im afraid of is that we will not make any transfers..true that we are a good team and reached this far..but lets not kid ourselves.. players like Brocchi, Simic, Cafu (currently), Boriello,Gilardino are not players that deserve to play in Milan.. we need to become more stronger..i dont want to buy 6 new players destroying the chemistry in the team..but just buyin 3 or 4 world class players that can make a difference.. i mean look at ronaldo's transfer.. sinc he came milan has been playing beautifl football in all competitions..his transfer gave every1 a much much needed boost.. after that we got into gear and never stopped..

milan has to sign a few plaayers no matter what the outcome of Athens is.. but we will support milan no matter what.. even if Gila will still be there next year!

don't worry, we will sign players.
I think we will sign 2-4 players among champions like Buffon, Dinho, Trez, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Alex/Barzagli/Chivu, Diarra, Ze Roberto
and probably 1-2 from promising and talented players like Keita, Barusso, Lucas Pezzini

who is lucas pezzini?

Originally Posted by zlatanov

I think Tony was referring to the one and only Ronaldo, the one playing for Milan, not the Ronaldo-wanna-be fro Gattuso's wet dreams


@ drucurl: I believe Milancelotti was talking about CR7, not R9

My bad, you cant possibly compare them two as they are both legends and played in their own positions respectively.

Im just angry at the people who compare CR7 to Zidane.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

don't worry, we will sign players.
I think we will sign 2-4 players among champions like Buffon, Dinho, Trez, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Alex/Barzagli/Chivu, Diarra, Ze Roberto
and probably 1-2 from promising and talented players like Keita, Barusso, Lucas Pezzini

Please Zlat , the bolded guy can not be called a champion just because he was among the 23 players who won the WC.
He is overrated, slow, lost on the field, laughing stock, raped by the attackers.
If Milan ( or Juve) want to shot their foot , then they'll buy Barzagli. If they plan to do something big in the future then they'll forget about him and let Moratti buy him !

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Please Zlat , the bolded guy can not be called a champion just because he was among the 23 players who won the WC.
He is overrated, slow, lost on the field, laughing stock, raped by the attackers.
If Milan ( or Juve) want to shot their foot , then they'll buy Barzagli. If they plan to do something big in the future then they'll forget about him and let Moratti buy him !

I am not a fan of his either, Tony ... I mentioned those players not because they are necessarily the ones I want to see at Milan but because they have been most strongly connected with milan and I would guess that if we are to go for any established players, they would be among those ...
although, on second thought I guess I should have put barzagli's name in the second list as he is anything but a champion and established.

Originally Posted by Stitch

who is lucas pezzini?

a little mystery doesn't hurt, does it? ... why do you wanna spoil things, then?

He's been mentioned many times here, and especially by brasileiro. he is like 20-21 yo defensive midfielder from Brazil (Gremio) and is pretty good going forward too and has a nice strong, precise shot.
Great prospect from what he's shown so far in his career.
There were rumours not long ago that Milan had offered 7 mil for him but Gremio were holding out for 10.

Aha, ok .

Oh, and for zdrillionth time : http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...lia/may4m.html

Forget about him.


There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's Berlu and his master cards

Originally Posted by Tony29.

Aha, ok .

Oh, and for zdrillionth time : http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...lia/may4m.html

Forget about him.


There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's Berlu and his master cards

Yeah, I know ... and Milan is not even going for any of those things
don't worry, for buffon Silvio will use his debit card ... or a bag full of cash, whatever juve please

Originally Posted by zlatanov

don't worry, for buffon Silvio will use his debit card ... or a bag full of cash, whatever juve please

Don't want cash.
The only things i'd accept for Gigi are Kaka, Pirlo and San Siro.....all together !

Ok, i'll try to be serious for a change. I havent been serious for a long time.
I remember there were few guys ( i was among them and Mrki wasn't among them for sure) who , since the start of the season, were saying how Milan doesn't need much.
Didn't this team reach the final and will probably win it ? So why do you want changes ?

Dida - To stay ( Buffon wont hurt but since he's married to Juve and i can't see a divorce comming, then Dida is the next best thing)
Oddo - To Stay ( someone to replace him from time to time. Nothing big and expensive , just some new squad player)
Janku - To stay and rotate with Zambrotta
Nesta - stay ( Bonera on the bench)
Maldini - if he retires then you'll need some classy CD who'll have Kaladze as his replacement.
Gattuso - to stay ( Brocchi)
Ambrosini - to stay ( but having in mind he's injury prone then you'll need that Barusso guy)
Pirlo - to stay ( someone talented and young to take his place on some non important matches )
Kaka - sell...kidding.... to stay
Seedorf - to stay ( Gourcuff ready to replace him and Kaka depending on the situation)
Ronaldo - to stay ( Gila, Inzaghi , 4th choice striker )

Lets see now :
Zambrotta 10m
Classy CD - 15-25m
Second choice LB - 3m
Barusso - 5m
Pirlo's replacement - 5-6m
4th striker - 3-5m
= ~50m

50m euro and Milan will still be the strongest ( among the 3 strongest) team in Europe for the next 3 years at least.

And if you use Borriello and Simic for swap deals and sell Oliveira for 10m, then with less than 35m Euro Milan can still be unbeatable.

Listen to me, i'm Moggi school student

you are a lousy student of Moggi... didn't you know Moggi predicted that Buffon will join Milan? and he is right...

Moggi had other methods of buying players... Give some lousy GK to Moratti, then load up his gun with bullets and made Cannavaro sign for 10 bucks for Juve And so on...

From all of these players you people mentioned up there I really hope we are gonna try for Zambrotta! With him and Oddo and Marek we have great fullbacks, plus Cafu and Seregio can go on like subs noemore year. Im sure we'll sign Barusso and one more CD, about the goal keeper im not sure, but this could be Dida's last few games with Milan. And Tony, we wouldnt change Kaka' or Pirlo for whole city of Torino and all the people in there!

So my "realistic wishes " are...
1. Zambrotta - 10 mil
2. CD - who ever is good, C.Maldini knows his job
3. Barusso - good player for Brocchi's place, Brocchi off to Torino
4. Forward or Ronaldinho
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We need like 4 players, not more. Gigi will be a bonus in the end, just wait and see...

Originally Posted by drucurl

You really don't want to get me started on this. All I'll do is write some reminders (Tony29 you're right I am stubborn ) :
1)Ronaldo is 30 and won the WOPY same no of times as a retired (35) Zidane
2)Ronaldo won TWO world cups Zidane won one.
3)Despite France winning 98 ronaldo was arguably the best player
4)Ronaldo is the highest WC goalscorer ever
5)Ronaldo was a superstar WHEREVER he want..../Zidane was relatively unknown at Monaco

If you think Zidane is better than Ronaldo that's fine. Just refrain from disrespecting him

Shut up you mule . I'm not disrespecting Ronnie, he's one of my all time favourites and i love him.
Just that he's behind Zidane.

And your arguments suck and almost made me , especially number 2.
Barzagli has 1 world cup, Maldini 0 ........beat this if you can ! Ronnie didn't play 1 sec. in 1994 , so forget about this argument.

Ronaldo could have been greater than Zidane, but he isn't. Blame that Lecce defender as much as you want but he did his job and Zizou is #1 for the last 15 years.

The thing with Zidane is that anywhere he went he was bringing trophies and took his teams in EC, CL , WC finals, and he actually was the main reason his teams did great.
France could have only dreamed about winning a WC or even playing in WC final if there wasn't for Zidane ( he was injured in 2002 and played only 1 match while carrying the injury. Look how far France went then).
He led his team to EC victory.
Led Juve to 2 CL finals ( lost them, but if he won those he would have been greater than Maradona) , led Real M to one CL final and won it for them.
He WAS the winning team, the one who played for the crowd, the one who assisted half of the goals, the one who scored most of the decissive goals and the one who brought trophies.
That's why Zidane is the greatest, Dru. Because his goals were the ones that were bringing the win.
While he was in Juve he scored 23 goals in serie A and 9 of them were against Inter, Milan and Roma.
While he was in Juve he scored only 5 goals in champions league, but 2 of them were in 1/4 finals and 2 in semifinals.
In World Cups he scored 5 goals. 3 in the final, 1 in the semifinal, 1 in the 1/4 final
In European championships he scored 5 goals. Two of them in 90th minute against England , 1 in 1/4 finals and one decider in semis.

I don't know his statistics in la liga but i still remember him scoring against Barcelona, La Coruna, Valencia.
In Europe with Real he scored 9 goals and 5 of them in knock-out stages ( 1 in the final, 2 in semis, 1 in 1/4final, 1 in round of 16)

Ronaldo has 1 trophy won as the best player of the team, and not underestimating his genious, but his Brasil of 2002 could have easily won it even without Ronaldo.

And again - Ronaldo is a striker so using his goals record to prove him better than Zidane is not fair.


Now, please some mod warn us not to go off topic anymore.
This was game-set-match anyway and dru won't reply

Originally Posted by mrki

Moggi had other methods of buying players... Give some lousy GK to Moratti, then load up his gun with bullets and made Cannavaro sign for 10 bucks for Juve And so on...

Hmmm, so you're saying i'm not Moggi school, he ?
Let me see your face when you'll see that the "someone talented to take Pirlo's place on some non important matches, who'll cost 5-6m " is actually Steven Gerrard