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Old 10-05-2007, 10:04   #2641

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hi,Mr Brasileiro,
i wanna ask what happened with Lucas,
i wonder why he didn't play several recent important matches?
is he injured?
You´re right, Lucas is injured...But Gremio go to the next roung of Libertadores Cup, so we can see more of Lucas in the next round
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:40   #2642

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As for sheva, I wouldn't exclude a loan deal like in Crespo's case given that Mourinho seems to be set to stay for next season, at least.
Either way, anything above 15 mil for a 31 yo Sheva would be something I hope Milan would not go through with.
15 million? That's way too much, he left us remember, we didn't kick him out. 8-10 million maximum and that's euros not pounds. The team needs to move on, it doesn't need to go backwards, returning players don't always pick up where they left off. Depending on other purchases he should realise that he might not be a first choice striker with us either. Plus lets not forget the potential dressing room clashes with more senior players who may not want him back or may think less of him for leaving the way he did.

I don't mind Ze Roberto as though he's oldish, he's still really mobile and combative, so that's ok. But that kind of puts pay to seeing Tiago join us Barusso, Lucas & Ze Roberto joining us would good and pretty cheap also.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:21   #2643

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We're in for some old and young blood from Brazil!



http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/may10f.html

I like this article
I never was a fan of Ze Roberto...but I have that to admit, this guy is playing out of his mind here in Brazil!! He would be a great squad player(only with a EU passport)...

Pato??? This kid maybe isn´r ready for Europe right now(maybe), but(injure aside) will be a star in the old continent in the near future
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:33   #2644

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15 million? That's way too much, he left us remember, we didn't kick him out. 8-10 million maximum and that's euros not pounds. The team needs to move on, it doesn't need to go backwards, returning players don't always pick up where they left off. Depending on other purchases he should realise that he might not be a first choice striker with us either. Plus lets not forget the potential dressing room clashes with more senior players who may not want him back or may think less of him for leaving the way he did.

I don't mind Ze Roberto as though he's oldish, he's still really mobile and combative, so that's ok. But that kind of puts pay to seeing Tiago join us Barusso, Lucas & Ze Roberto joining us would good and pretty cheap also.
generally speaking 15 mil is too much for any 31 yo player as I would rather see Milan get a younger player even if we have to invest 2-3 times as much.
But still, he is Shevchenko and a big portion of those 15 mil I mentioned would be for "old time's sake" so to speak and could probably offer some quality experience up front although I don't expect at all to ever see again the old Sheva of 2-3 years ago.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:47   #2645

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Wow, great news for us(Lucas fans)!!
http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/No...6-4411,00.html
Is in portuguese(reliable source):
- They said that Lucas is in Europe right now making medical examinations.

- Lucas travelled to Europe with the Gremio vice-financier (Tulio Macedo), the legal-director Gustavo Pinheiro and his own agent Carlos Leite.

- The trip to europe was surrounded of foils, as some journalists of "Zero Hora"(big newspaper of the state Rio Grande do Sul) had telephoned to Gremio manangers, and both had said that they are in Rio de Janeiro. Lie, since they are in the Europe.

- They quoted Gremio president, and although it not to have confirmed the notice, the president said that they(Gremio) NEEDS to seel Lucas!

- And most important: The indication is strong that the deals is with AC Milan

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Old 10-05-2007, 11:50   #2646

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And realisticlly speaking, i don't see Chelsea selling him for 15m , no matter what happens and no matter how big misunderstandings there are between Sheva and JM or Roman and JM.
Especially not to the team that sold Sheva to them for 45m , only one year earlier.
Not only it's an awful business move, but it will make them the ultimate fools in the football world.

If Sheva is available for transfer, then Chelsea can still take smthg between 20-30m for him ( rumours say Barca is ready to offer 30m ).

But he can be loaned, just like Crespo.
Now the question is if Roman is the one who decides or is it JM ? and is Roman, if he's the one who has the final word, willing to let him go, even on loan ?
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:58   #2647

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Guys,When you are talking about sheva do you mean 15,20,30 mil euros or pounds....
cuz seriously 15-20 mil EUROS is really unrealistic price... if we manage to cut 35 - 40% of the price they paid....than I think its ok....if we take in consideration that we won the CL(if it happens),thats a great deal...Sell you`re best player for 50 mil euros,Win the CL and then get him back for 30 mil euros!!!
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:03   #2648

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Guys,When you are talking about sheva do you mean 15,20,30 mil euros or pounds....
cuz seriously 15-20 mil EUROS is really unrealistic price... if we manage to cut 35 - 40% of the price they paid....than I think its ok....if we take in account that we won the CL(if it happens),thats a great deal...Sell you`re best player for 50 mil euros,Win the CL and then get him back for 30 mil euros!!!
The price Zlat talks about is in EURO , i think.

As for Lucas Pazzini, according to fiorentina.it , he's going to Fiorentina, and they are expecting the transfer to be finalized any day now, and their offer is 10m Euro.
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=23&a=42452
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:05   #2649

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euros.

I know it's not realistic that's why I think the best way to get him back would be a loan, which might work for Roman seen that JM might not be around for more than 1 more year and then Cjelski might be willing to get Sheva back.

either way, I hope Milan use more mind than heart here as if we to speak of realistic prices here 20+ mil would be more like it - let's not forget that Sheva has been absolute failure this season and if we had to be evaluating his performances only and not his name, a very realistic price would be less than 10 mil probably ... and he is no spring chicken either at the age of 31.

If chelski were stupid enough to pay 40-50 mil for a 30 yo player, that's their problem really and doesn't mean that other teams will have to follow suit in rivaling their stupidity.
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If Eto is valued at 40 Mill, Henry at 15 Mill

Sheva is worth it
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The price Zlat talks about is in EURO , i think.

As for Lucas Pazzini, according to fiorentina.it , he's going to Fiorentina, and they are expecting the transfer to be finalized any day now, and their offer is 10m Euro.
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=23&a=42452
Sad news...but I really hope that Rio Grande do Sul journalists are right.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:43   #2652

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Another player who's connected to Milan is Mathieu Bodmer :

Lille: Bodmer 'A fine stagione decido'. Milan e Fiorentina alla finestra
19:30 del 10 maggio
Il centrocamposta del Lille Mathieu Bodmer ha rimandato la decisione sul suo futuro a fine stagione. "Ci sono due partite prima di pensare al mio futuro", ha dichiarato. Sul giocatore ci sono Psg e Lione, in Italia Bodmer piace anche a Fiorentina e Milan.
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Lille's midefielder Mathieu Bodmer postponed the decission about his future.
"There are 2 more matches to be played, and only then i'll decide what to do" , said Bodmer.
PSG and Lyon are after the player, but Italian clubs Fiorentina and Milan are also interested in him.
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Old 10-05-2007, 13:03   #2653

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i kinda hope that Milan had a thing in Shevas contract that we get first choice to bid for him back, i dont really want to see him alongside toothy and Eto....
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Old 10-05-2007, 13:59   #2654

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The highs !

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Wow, great news for us(Lucas fans)!!
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And most important: The indication is strong that the deals is with AC Milan

The lows!

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As for Lucas Pazzini, according to fiorentina.it , he's going to Fiorentina, and they are expecting the transfer to be finalized any day now, and their offer is 10m Euro.
This will be so annoying if Fiorentina is the club he's going to. Wow, i'm getting so angry already ... haha
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Old 10-05-2007, 14:10   #2655

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Forget Sheva, he left Milan and we dont need him back now. He is 31 and injured...

Eto'o can be bought, lets do this and we have ourselves a great and pretty young striker! Eto'o, Ronaldo and Kaka' cant be stoped by any defence im 100% sure of it.
Ze Robaerto had a great season in Brazil andhe will be for free, he can provide quality backup for Pirlo as he can be pretty creative and combative in the same time. There is also Ribery who is a monster player and with those 3 we would ave the best midfield and attack in the world. Barca, Real, United and Chelsea can buy whoever they want....
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