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Old 15-05-2007, 16:17   #2836

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epthopolopoloopolus, papa waigo is an infinitely better name

I am against him because he was in f... Olimpiacos Pireues but go back to history, Eleftheopoulos 2 to 3 years was one of the best keepers in CL. His permomances started going low after a huge mistake in a semi final against Juventus in CL when Conte scored a goal and Juve passed by!....
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Tevez, Villa, Adriano maybe Huntelaar i would like to see some of them in Milano.
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Old 15-05-2007, 18:11   #2838

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Team of gentlemen? Hah, I guess you dont know who our players are. Really.

If Maradona cant qualify like "idol", then I dont think any soccer player can carry that label. I want players that bring trophies to Milan, not role models that dont know about the game. If not, just phone Galliani and tell him Im ready to go.

Tevez played for 3 teams in his carrer and those teams' fans have the highest regard for him. And Im sure that if he comes to Milan, the same will happen.

But since he seems close to agreeing with Real Madrid, its a moot point.
As I said, a idol shall be more than just a amazing player, shall be a person that deserves to be respect as a human

If a amazing player with not that good ethic wanna play in São Paulo or Milan, for me it´s ok, I know that São Paulo can´t have 11 Rogérios Cenis and Milan can´t have 11 Maldinis, but he will just not be a idol for me

This player I supposed will just play him amazing football and when it´s over I will just think:"Bye, I don´t mind about you or your career anymore, you did a great job for the team I like and that´s enough"

I just say that would not be a great idea to Milan to hire Tevez because he can ruin the spirit of the team with him bad personality and this is a unnecessary risk for the italian team

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Samuca, i was reading your posts and i think that you're not even aware how much your opinion is influenced by the rivalry between Argentinians and Brasilians or Sao Paulo and Corinthians.
It's ok to love your country but it's not ok and it's even dangerous way of thinking to make generalizations and to divide people, players, fans in good X and bad Y.
This mustn't be the leading idea while living your life.

I could never accept dividing fans and say how Inter fans are inferior to Milan fans. Both teams have fans among scientists, pilots, doctors, musicians, artists, auto mechanics, street cleaners, frauds, priests, criminals etc.
I said it many times before how thin the line between becoming Juventino, Milanista or Interista is...
A certain player we liked signed for Inter, fantastic matches played by Juve or Milan at the time when we started following football...these are usually the reasons why people become fans of certain clubs (people outside Italy). Noone became Juve fan because Moggi was a cheater, noone became Milan fan because Berlusconi can buy anyone he likes and noone became an Inter fan because Materazzi had something to say about Zidane's sister.
Even more, if there's one thing you must respect Inter fans for it's how none of them became Inter fan because he was a gloryhunter (something that can not be said about some Juve or Milan fans).

So, respect people and football players for their attitude, football skills etc, not because they were born in Buenos Aires and represent Argentina or because they've chosen to join Corinthians not Sao Paulo.

I have one question for you though ....
Which 5 of these players do you think deserve to become our idols :
Kaka, Javier Zanetti, Luizao, Samuel, Serginho, Ayala, Denilson, Juninho, Luis Fabiano, Rincon.

I respect all of them but if i have to chose 3,4 or 5 of them i'll have a hard time deciding.
Wow dude, I'm not xenophobe, actually I would be glad if Redondo had played more times for Milan and if Crespo could come back to Milan, by the way, the second one I quoted formed a amazing attack with Kaká

About Internazionale, it´s kinda a joke because Materazzi is a idol there, this team did a shame in the Champions League against Valencia and c'mon, is the biggest rival of Milan

I should never judge all Internazionale fans as bad people, that would be absolutly wrong

But you said that you respect football players for their attitude so you should agree that it´s tottaly insane the fact of a assassin like Materazzi being a idol for someone, right?

About your answer, all of them except Luizão, Rincon and Denílson (the one who played for Betis, right?)

Denílson used to play serious in São Paulo but since he gone this team, he never were the same, seems like now he just want to have fun in the field

He isn´t a bad person but I don´t think it´s right to try to have fame by doing pointless moves against other players

I could say Luis Fabiano but him problem is the psychological side, that make he use to receive the red card for useless reasons and don´t score goals with good regularity but I think a good professional could fix that problem
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Old 15-05-2007, 18:29   #2839

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But you said that you respect football players for their attitude so you should agree that it´s tottaly insane the fact of a assassin like Materazzi being a idol for someone, right?
I really dislike Materazzi and i can't stand him, but people really hate him for some wrong reasons.
If Materazzi played in England he would have been just a normal defender, and a damn good one. But he plays in Italy where players like Totti, Del Piero, Inzaghi, Kaka, Nedved, Gilardino fall after the smallest contact and where midfielders and attackers are more protected than in some other countries.
Materazzi plays his game, just like he would do it in Spain or England and it makes him different than the other defenders in Italy.
That's why we think he's an "assasin" , " Butcher" and stuff. He was brutal in the past ( against Sheva and Ibrahimovic most of all) but never as much as we Juventus or Milan fans made him look.
If you look outside Milan you'll se how many people have awful opinion about Gattuso. By their logic, it's totaly insane to have Rino as an idol !

Sorry for having wrong opinion about you. Although you must see how your previous posts gave bad image to you. 99% of the players you attacked were Argentinians or Corinthians players.
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Old 15-05-2007, 20:55   #2840

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i had some concerns over Oddo before he joined us,but yet he proved me wrong and however adjusted so well to them,he proved us he is the real man for our right wing.then im sure he will improve further more next year and will be better than this year.

Regarding Marek,i dont know what to say,vs manchester games i saw an improved marek but he should do more than he do now,maybe we should sign zambrotta and let them fight for one spot.it would be great 4 us.

Regarding Rino,i have so many friends who take rino as idol to themselves,they like how rino gave his all to his team,how he gave his heart and soul to his team and how he fights on the pitch,he never gave up.rino is their idol just because of that.

Regarding Juve,i think they have so many chance to finish at top 4 next year and go the champions the year after.neverthless they already signed Grygera and salihamidzic,they have both camo and marchiooni on RM,Nedved has a great stamina this is why he can play 1-2 years more,they just lacking real DM's,2 top player one is in defence and one in attack,if they sign this players they could reach the top,of course i mean 4th post.
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Old 16-05-2007, 01:35   #2841

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The Current Transfer Situation

This transfer season surely seems to be a big one for Ac Milan as we had a dissapointing transfer period last summer. Now I just wanted to asses the current transfer situation of our squad and need your opinion on it.

GOALKEEPER:

At one point we were looking set to sign Gianluigi Buffon which would have been a dream signing but then for some reason or the other our management decided to pull out of the race of Buffon and persist with Dida for the next season. Now it seems that we are linkened with Hildebrand.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=304212

Now the question remains do we need a new keeper? My answer would be yes for sure we need one after Dida's recent performance.

DEFENDERS

Our back four seems to be fine but I do not know if Maldini will retire at the end of the season or not if yes then Milan are recently linked with Terry who to me could be an ideal replacement for Maldini. I am not so sure were the development with Zambrotta has reached. But I would rather not have him because Janku is good as a LB then a LM and Oddo has done more then a good enough job to keep his place as a RB. Plus I always feel that Zambro is best as RB and as a LB he tends to struggle at times.
If someone did not knew that Costacurta has retired here is the news for them.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=298206

Do you think we need his replacement (Transfer) or do we have enough CB's in our squad who could replace him.

MIDFIELD

Seedorf,Pirlo, and Kaka have done really well this season and thanks for once Gattuso is no more intrested in Manchester United. so every thing seeems to be fine but now kaka seems to be intrested in joining Primier league.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=294839

I just hope that he really do not means it because to me it more or less seems to be a threat to Milan by Kaka as Milan thretened kaka's place at the club when they were linked to Ronaldinho. But if he stays all is well and there is no need for change in the midfield. Though we are linkened to Ze Roberto and Ribery.

FORWARDS

Gilardino is really going through a horrible time though I believe he will be back soon with a bang. Lyon seems to be intrested in him but I do believe our managment should not let him go as he is great player with a long and bright future ahead of him.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=301635

Now to Ricardo Olivera who I am sure will leave this summer and this leaves us with a striker required. There are a lot of options for this position with Tervez recently linked to Milan.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=304112

Cassono and Robinho are set to leave Madrid and there is a new Brazilian sensation who is Thiago and of course Saha, Hunteelar, Toni, Saviola, Iquainta and the new Italian hero Quagillera are set to leave their clubs. One more option is Pozzi who is on loan to Empoli and has been really impressive. Plus Milan are desperate to get Sheva Back.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=302241

My personal choice would be Cassano or Pazzini of Fiorentina. The latter is under 21 and has got what it takes to be a big player.
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Old 16-05-2007, 03:45   #2842

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I really dislike Materazzi and i can't stand him, but people really hate him for some wrong reasons.
If Materazzi played in England he would have been just a normal defender, and a damn good one. But he plays in Italy where players like Totti, Del Piero, Inzaghi, Kaka, Nedved, Gilardino fall after the smallest contact and where midfielders and attackers are more protected than in some other countries.
Materazzi plays his game, just like he would do it in Spain or England and it makes him different than the other defenders in Italy.
That's why we think he's an "assasin" , " Butcher" and stuff. He was brutal in the past ( against Sheva and Ibrahimovic most of all) but never as much as we Juventus or Milan fans made him look.
If you look outside Milan you'll se how many people have awful opinion about Gattuso. By their logic, it's totaly insane to have Rino as an idol !

Sorry for having wrong opinion about you. Although you must see how your previous posts gave bad image to you. 99% of the players you attacked were Argentinians or Corinthians players.
Rino is different than Materazzi

Rino play hard but he even try to aim the ball, sometimes arrive late and hit the player but what he even tries is steal the ball from the adversary

Materazzi just ignore the ball and aim him adversaries

By the way, Rino don´t use to say offensive words to the players just to try to be punched and let the adversary be fired of the game
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Old 16-05-2007, 05:10   #2843

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Flaubert said that Milan is interested in him. Is this guy any good? How old is he?
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Old 16-05-2007, 06:36   #2844

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Flaubert said that Milan is interested in him. Is this guy any good? How old is he ?
The Flaubert i know would have been 186 years old if he was alive.
I never heard about a football player named Flaubert and i can't find one

Edit : Maybe it's Faubert ? I found some Faubert in Bordeaux.
Julien Faubert - 23 years old midfielder with 1 cap and 1 goal for the French national team.

From wikipedia :
Julien Faubert (born August 1, 1983 in Le Havre) is a French football player who plays midfielder for Bordeaux. Faubert made his debut for the French national team on August 16, 2006, against Bosnia and Herzegovina. He marked his first match by scoring in the final minute of the game to ensure France won 2-1.He is a convert to Islam. He has frequently been compared to Zinedine Zidane and is expected to follow in his footsteps as he has been given the number 10

Height 1.8 m (5 ft 11 in)

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2002-2004 - Cannes 45 (4)
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Old 16-05-2007, 09:31   #2845

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Tony, are you still sure that Gigigigigig will stay in Juve?

http://www.channel4.com/sport/footba...ia/may16d.html
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Serie A concern for Buffon
Wednesday 16 May, 2007
Gigi Buffon has fuelled doubts about his Juventus future after insisting that being uncompetitive in Serie A will be worse than Serie B football.

The goalkeeper opted to remain with the giants after demotion last summer, but he has hinted that he may be on the move at the end of this campaign.

“The worst moments have yet to come now that we won’t be as competitive as the best sides in the top flight,” Buffon told a TV show on La7.

“We had a clear objective in Serie B and that was to achieve promotion as soon as possible,” added the World Cup winner, whose side needs just three points in four matches to go up.

“In Serie A, however, everything will be harder. It would be terrible for us to be unable to compete with Inter, Milan, Roma and Lazio.”

Buffon’s comments will be viewed by many as a clear signal to the club that they need to spend big in the summer, especially after he took a little swipe at officials for their actions last summer.

“I understand that some players had to go, especially the older ones, but letting Adrian Mutu and Gianluca Zambrotta leave was a big mistake,” he announced.

“They could have been very useful now for our return to Serie A.”

Meanwhile, some reports are claiming that Buffon and his girlfriend Alena Seredova are buying a villa on Lake Como which may suggest he is about to join one of the Milan clubs.
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Old 16-05-2007, 09:38   #2846

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A summary of what I think will or maybe should change...

Goalkeeper

Personally, I'd like to see Buffon (rumours have grown again after he's apparently been househunting in Milan), but if not Dida isn't a bad choice. He's become far more reliable lately which is positive.

Defenders

We'll need a few imo. I think a world class RB/LB is a must. I'd try and get Zambrotta without question, his versatility could be used on both flanks. This would actually leave us with 3 or 4 LBs (Zambro, Janku, Serginho and Favalli), which might seem a lot. However, Favalli can do a reasonably solid job in CB and would fit in nicely for Coppa matches. Janku or Serginho I'd like to be asked to push forward and provide depth in midfield. Essentially, right now we lack wide options in midfield, so having them available (with Gourcuff playing RW if need be) would increase options.

A central defender will be needed, a good reliable player, even if not world class as Kala and Bonera are reliable if Maldini isn't available. I think we'll also keep Favalli to replace Costacurta's role in the squad.

Midfielders

We need some creativity, specifically someone to switch with Seedorf on a regular basis. Gourcuff maybe can grow next season and have a more prominent role, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him loaned out. We preferably need a better replacement for Pirlo, as we've struggled covering his role.

I'd also like someone with more physical presence to cover in midfield. Right now only Ambro really dominates physically in our midfield, as Rino and Brocchi are more pitbull like. Someone similar to Ambro in qualities is a must for me.

Forwards

Oliveira and Borriello will probably leave, so we need at least 1 good backup forward. I don't see Gila and obviously Ronaldo leaving, but Pippo might decide to move on.

As much as I like Pippo, I wouldn't mind to see him leaving, as he's struggled a lot this season. I'd like to see two new forwards coming in, one a supporting forward and the other a goalscorer or poacher. The goalscorer I'd like to be someone similar to Pippo in style, doesn't have to be great, just a reliable fourth choice striker (Pippo if he stays should take the role). The supporting forward needs to be a good subsitute for me, someone who may not necessarily play every game, but someone who can make a difference for us when called on. Pippo has been filling this role over the past 2-3 seasons, but I do think it's time to get someone new.
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Old 16-05-2007, 10:18   #2847

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by the way,the agent of tuncay sanli said that he had 3 offers for his player,one from olyimpiakos,one from manchester city,the other is our beloved Milan.

then he continued and said that tuncay sanli is very close to italy.

typcial galliani transfers,free

what do you think about that?
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Old 16-05-2007, 12:25   #2848

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Buffon is again linked to us, he is looking for a house near Lake Como...

Zambrotta apparently was in Milan yesterday aswell..
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Old 16-05-2007, 13:27   #2849

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Personally, I'd like to see Buffon (rumours have grown again after he's apparently been househunting in Milan)
He was "househunting" in Milan in January of last year as well. Either this newest rumor is BS or the housing market in Milano must be tough.
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Old 16-05-2007, 13:50   #2850

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Guys, please don't disapoint me like this ( especially Dev disapointed me. You got F from me Dev boy )

In my field of work- History, and everywhere in science, if i write Some Reports are claiming that Buffon.... is looking for a house , and if i don't name these reports with a footnote i'll become jobless and the laughing stock of my collegues.
Even in journalism , serious journalist will never use "Some reports are claiming"

Gigi is looking for a house near lake Como for 2 years if we trust these journalists. I don't know if the latest house he was looking is the same one from January or it's the same house Zambrotta was looking last June, or maybe it's the house Del Piero was looking 2 years ago.

But ok, since people everywhere on the internet seem to trust these rumours, then maybe you'll find this interesting :
Some reports are claiming that Gigi will 100% stay with Juve if Juve is competitive with Inter and Milan next year (since it will never happen, then Buffon is 100% out)
Looks like , according to "some reports", Inter made a big ( Huge) offer but both Juventus and Buffon rejected it.
Milan's offer is not worthed concedering ( according to 'some reports' Milan offered money only, but the offer was waaaaaay too low) but if Milan makes the same offer that Inter made then there are chances, big chances, Buffon to join Milan.

I don't trust neather channel4 neather the Italian guy who said this in one Italian Juve forum. But i thought some of you will find this interesting
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