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Old 17-05-2007, 10:33   #2866

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It makes no difference wether he's brazilian or not or expected to attack or not, the fact is he's not the most disciplined player at the moment. He needs to learn when to attack and when to defend and not just continually run forward at every opportunity if it puts the team's shape in disarray. Roberto Carlos is a prime example, he runs around like a headless chicken and pops up everywhere, if Alves was more selective and thought a bit more about when to attack he'd take his level of play significantly higher.

You're missing the point if you think that Gattuso and/or Ambrosini will fix the problem, that's not their continual job, if it was you might aswell play either of those at right-back and stick Alves further upfield. If Gattuso and/or Ambrosini are constantly filling in for the 'not at home' full-back then you lose their bite in midfield.

I don't think Alves was very good at both ends either, he was good but not amazing. I wouldn't call a pass out wide to Navas a heavy hand in the second goal, plus you can counter balance that plus point as he was at fault for Espanyol's first goal.

As for Navas, yeah he has alot of skill but he's well known for being a poor traveller and quick to get home-sick, though maybe he's grown out of that by now.
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Old 17-05-2007, 11:34   #2867

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Probably the smart thing to say right now. Ahead of the final, there's certainly no point in making Dida uneasy by saying we want Buffon.
Exactly what I was going to say.

Im not sure whats the latest with Barruso? Do we own him? I feel we could do with a plyer of his quality.
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Old 17-05-2007, 12:04   #2868

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Probably the smart thing to say right now. Ahead of the final, there's certainly no point in making Dida uneasy by saying we want Buffon.
Well, maybe Galliani ought to quit bringing it up to the press over and over and over again, and the timing couldn't be any more piss-poor than a week before the final. This can't be splashed all over the media and then include that Milan doesn't want to get Dida all hot and bothered, because last time I checked, Dida doesn't live under a rock.

Galliani is such an unprofessional ass at times, it's not even funny. "No comment" is obviously not in his vocabulary.
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Old 17-05-2007, 12:21   #2869

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No comment is actually worse than saying we don't want Buffon. I firmly believe we'll go for Buffon, irrespective of Dida having a great game in Athens (fingers crossed he doesn't need too though).
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Old 17-05-2007, 12:21   #2870

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Well, maybe Galliani ought to quit bringing it up to the press over and over and over again, and the timing couldn't be any more piss-poor than a week before the final. This can't be splashed all over the media and then include that Milan doesn't want to get Dida all hot and bothered, because last time I checked, Dida doesn't live under a rock.

Galliani is such an unprofessional ass at times, it's not even funny. "No comment" is obviously not in his vocabulary.
I think if you compare 'No comment' to 'We dont need Buffon, We have Dida....' which one would you prefer to hear? I think its fine what he said.
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Old 17-05-2007, 12:42   #2871

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Lets all shout : Barcelona to win La Liga, Barcelona to win La Liga, Barcelona to win La Liga


Capello wants : Giggi Bufon and Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

According to Spanish newspapers , Real Madrid will offer 40m for Ibrahimovic and 20m+Casilas for Buffon. Plus they'll offer them 7m Eur per year.
Both Buffon and Zlatan are Capello's favourites and he'll do everything to bring them to Real.


Hmmmm, i thought Capello will leave Real. Wont he ?
But if Real Madrid become champions of Spain after 4 years without winning anything then Capello will be like God there and he can get whoever he wants.
He took Emerson and Cannavaro with him last year, Casano is also there...... i don't doubt how he'll try to get Zlatan and Buffon also.

This may even be good news for you guys because it will mean Real definitly gave up on Kaka, but these are awful news for me
Its still better than watching Buffon with our Italian rivals but i fear Juve wont say NO to such offer ( like they'll say to Milan or Inter) and the fool Secco will sell his most valuable player !
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Old 17-05-2007, 12:49   #2872

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BMW...u think Galliani is actually "bringing" it up with the media? Dont you think its the reverse?

And I do agree with Tony75, that his reply was the best he could make...he does risk alienating Buffon, but everyone involved knows about the "noise" thats made before the "silly season" gets really and truly underway.

And further, a "no comment" is always interpreted by the press to mean whatever is most sensational to the public.
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Old 17-05-2007, 13:11   #2873

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Capello wants : Giggi Bufon and Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

According to Spanish newspapers , Real Madrid will offer 40m for Ibrahimovic and 20m+Casilas for Buffon. Plus they'll offer them 7m Eur per year.
Both Buffon and Zlatan are Capello's favourites and he'll do everything to bring them to Real.
I don't think this new is true. Or if it's actually true, it won't happen. Because Casilas is nearly Real's Maldini, he's untouchable. Such a long time at real, and he is a world class goalkeeper too. I don't think the club want to sell him <or dare to sell him if Casilas doesn't want>. And 20M + Casilas = Buffon? I know Buffon is a really good keeper, but I'm sure that Casilas + 20M > Buffon.

And the last thing is, anyone believes in Spanish newspapers?
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Old 17-05-2007, 13:12   #2874

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Lets all shout : Barcelona to win La Liga, Barcelona to win La Liga, Barcelona to win La Liga

Hmmmm, i thought Capello will leave Real. Wont he ?
But if Real Madrid become champions of Spain after 4 years without winning anything then Capello will be like God there and he can get whoever he wants.
He took Emerson and Cannavaro with him last year, Casano is also there...... i don't doubt how he'll try to get Zlatan and Buffon also.

This may even be good news for you guys because it will mean Real definitly gave up on Kaka, but these are awful news for me
I'm with you Tony I want Barca to win La Liga Capello is the guy that refused to play Ronaldo .If he wins La Liga it would look like Ronaldo was really the problem at Real Also Robinho will probably never have a career because Capello keeps him on the bench
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Old 17-05-2007, 13:19   #2875

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I don't think this new is true. Or if it's actually true, it won't happen. Because Casilas is nearly Real's Maldini, he's untouchable. Such a long time at real, and he is a world class goalkeeper too. I don't think the club want to sell him <or dare to sell him if Casilas doesn't want>. And 20M + Casilas = Buffon? I know Buffon is a really good keeper, but I'm sure that Casilas + 20M > Buffon.

And the last thing is, anyone believes in Spanish newspapers?
I tend to agree with sleep ... and also Capello and Buffon weren't exactly on great terms during their time together at Juve, at least that's what was suggested by the numerous reports of Buffon disliking/not speaking to Capello and Capello criticizing at time Buffon, especially when Abbiati was doing so well and Buffo wasn't.

And again, Real has a very good keeper in Casillas, and younger too, what they need is a better defense and more commited midfield, so that their keeper doesn't have to deal with 10-15 goal-scoring opportunities for their opponenets almost every game ... something even Buffon would look less than impressive if he has to face it.

As for Ibra, I don't doubt the reports at all - he's always been capello's younger b..b..b......brother
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Old 17-05-2007, 13:23   #2876

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I don't think this new is true. Or if it's actually true, it won't happen. Because Casilas is nearly Real's Maldini, he's untouchable. Such a long time at real, and he is a world class goalkeeper too. I don't think the club want to sell him <or dare to sell him if Casilas doesn't want>. And 20M + Casilas = Buffon? I know Buffon is a really good keeper, but I'm sure that Casilas + 20M > Buffon.

And the last thing is, anyone believes in Spanish newspapers?
Looks like you don't know Capello

Capello was risking losing the CL final ( and he lost it eventually) by not letting Savicevic play the final match in 1995.
Capello put Del Piero, the greatest Juventus legend, on the bench and kept him there for 2 years , giving Ibrahimovic the starting XI place, even though he risked being linched by the fans.

I was reading what guys in Juventuz.com were saying and it seems like Capello wants Buffon over Casillas .
If Capello wants something - he's getting it ! Especially if Real beats Barca for the title this season.

Casillas is relativly young. He's only 25. He's not a legend in Madrid. Actually he's far from being The Legend of Real (Raul is untouchable) and he's light years away from the status Maldini has in Milan. He can be sold ( with much fuss at the beggining, but Real fans will calm down when they see Buffon there)

Like my mates from Juve forums already concluded : The only chance for this transfer not to happen ( asuming that Real does offer money+Casillas for Buffon) is Casillas.
I doubt he'll accept going to Juve.

As for the money. Hey, Sheva at 30 wasn't worthed more than 25-30m Euro but you saw how much Milan got from him.
It's market. If Real ( Capello) wants Buffon then they'll have to over pay for him concidering the interest teams will show in Juve's keeper.

The good news is : It looks like all these spanish newspappers have the same source. There's a chance it's not true
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Old 17-05-2007, 13:31   #2877

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The good news is : It looks like all these spanish newspappers have the same source . There's a chance it's not true
It is called ass.
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Old 17-05-2007, 13:33   #2878

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Juventino Tony beat me to it...

wanted to say that no Real Madrid fan will care too much about Casillas leavin' if Buffon is the replacement...
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It is called ass.
Lol
No it's not AS. In this case it's some Mondo Deportivo or something like that
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in a way true - Capello does have his weird ways of wiining the love and appreciation of the fansb.... but will Real M get rid of a fanfavourite and a club icon, more or less, to make happay a coach, whose job is on the ballance.

Will a coach, who has found it so dif to win the respect and appreciation of the star-studded real M dressing room risk it all by getting rid of one of the "home" stars there.

As for Sheva, Milan got so much money for him because Roman was crazy about Sheva not only as a player but as a friend an would have paid even more to have him ... and the apparent abundance of cash that no other team can dream of shouldn't be discarded either - all in all, it was a one off deal with many "extra" incentives than the purely sport-oriented we usually see in most other deals of such magnitude.

Also, I wonder if the Milan management would have been brave enough to sell Sheva if he hadn't asked to go himself ... that's obviously not the case with Cassilas who is a fan favourite and home-grown talent ... selling such players for no apperant reason at all would have it's risks for the coach and management, especially with fans like Reals who are hailing you one day and waiving the white napkins the next.
And in Spain, home grown players are much more valued than anywhere else ... it's enough to just look at the power (read influence) players like Raul and Hierro had at Real ... selling Casillas is not simply a case of subbing one keepr with another, even if the latter is Buffon ... very much like I doubt Juve fans would want Buffon out only to get a, probably, slightly better or at least more famous keeper than the local hero.
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