Summer Mercato 2010

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

OFF TOPIC:
Libertadores Final(first-leg) right now on TV!

Seem to remember that you're an Internacional fan, is that right? In that case Congratulations

Originally Posted by SomeDevil

he he internacional have bounced back ! btw that chivas stadium looks so good !

Yep, brand new Stadium. World Cup ready, but with artificial grass...

Internacional is a very deep squad. In my opinion, right now, they have a much better squad(but CF and Cb's) than us... and despite be a BIG Club in Brazil, there's no way I would be saying it in a near past. Sad...

Plus, I'm glad for Giuliano... great kid, talented and suffer a lot with Inter last coach. Glad to see him gain his confidence back. 5 goals and top scorer of the team in Libertadores. Can't wait to see him with Ganso, Neymar, Pato in Brazil NT team...

Originally Posted by Christian

Seem to remember that you're an Internacional fan, is that right? In that case Congratulations

Unfortunately not, Christian.
My team is EC Bahia... 2 times Brazilian Champion, but now a regular in second division of Brasileirão
Our last glory was to produce Daniel Alves of youth teams

But I'm glad for Internacional and for the way the team is directed. Very organized and always producing talents for Brazil NT...

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

Yep, brand new Stadium. World Cup ready, but with artificial grass...

Internacional is a very deep squad. In my opinion, right now, they have a much better squad(but CF and Cb's) than us... and despite be a BIG Club in Brazil, there's no way I would be saying it in a near past. Sad...

Plus, I'm glad for Giuliano... great kid, talented and suffer a lot with Inter last coach. Glad to see him gain his confidence back. 5 goals and top scorer of the team in Libertadores. Can't wait to see him with Ganso, Neymar, Pato in Brazil NT team...

Unfortunately not, Christian.
My team is EC Bahia... 2 times Brazilian Champion, but now a regular in second division of Brasileirão
Our last glory was to produce Daniel Alves of youth teams

But I'm glad for Internacional and for the way the team is directed. Very organized and always producing talents for Brazil NT...

Didn't our Serginho play there too?

On the topic of Pato, is it me or is he really taller than before?

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

On the topic of Pato, is it me or is he really taller than before?

I think I read somewhere that he gained smth in height. He was 172 when he came first in Milan and now he is 180 cm. nice?

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

On the topic of Pato, is it me or is he really taller than before?

He said the same thing himself.

he is 5'10 now I believe...lets hope he doesnt have another spurt a Paloschi spurt that leads to injury.

I heard that Paloschi got the injured b/c he did not know how to deal with his new found height.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy...milan-defender If they do offer that he will be sold and it would be a big mistake , we won't replace him with someone as good because there isn't someone as good for 10 or 15 million which is what would be spent if any and that thought comes up aswell we have 6 CB sell Silva for 40 million and no need to replace.And if he goes for 40 million to bring someone in as good you will have to spend 40 mil and they guy coming in will not already have Serie A experience so its only a bad decision if it happened.

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy...milan-defender If they do offer that he will be sold and it would be a big mistake , we won't replace him with someone as good because there isn't someone as good for 10 or 15 million which is what would be spent if any and that thought comes up aswell we have 6 CB sell Silva for 40 million and no need to replace.And if he goes for 40 million to bring someone in as good you will have to spend 40 mil and they guy coming in will not already have Serie A experience so its only a bad decision if it happened.

Its just a rumor....As crazy as they are Man City don`t need him at all...They already have Toure, Lescot, Kompany,Micah Richards,Zabaleta. Maybe they wont to use him as a DM. but they also have De Jong, Barry and Yaya Toure.

Along with Pitton who we signed on loan for the youth set up, we've recently signed Serginho, a young Brazilian attacker who is about 17/18 for the youth set up. Also, Danilo, previously of Benfica youth setup, but whose contract recently expired has been linked to us by his agent. I know some of these stories have been mentioned already, so sorry to repeat the news.

Brasileiro, yeah Arouca is definitely the one you mentioned before. I don't know much about him, but remember you mentioning him before.

I still find it surprising there's so little mention of Ganso in the press. We were linked to him a while back (it's why I got interested to find out about him), but since then the rumour has all but died. Lately there were rumours Man City were interested in swapping Robinho for him, but the story never took hold. What I don't understand is why so few teams seem too interested. When Internacional had Pato, Milan, Chelsea, Real and others were all desperately trying to sign him, and more recently with Neymar, I often see Spanish sides and Chelsea associated with him, yet little is ever mentioned of Ganso.

The other thing bugging me of late is comparisons of Kaka and Ganso. A lot of the press compare the two, saying they have similar playing styles, but key aspects of their play make them very different. Kaka relies on his pace and ability to drive his team forward when playing, whilst Ganso is much more about passing and opening up spaces.

I really do think we need to seriously consider Ganso. I say this because under Allegri, we look like we're going to play with a modern playmaker ahead of the midfield and Ganso fits the mould perfectly. I'm aware we have Verdi and Merkel also trying to break through, but I don't see Ganso as an obstacle for them, as Verdi would aim to play further up as part of the attack along with Pato. Merkel I'm certain is capable of playing deeper in midfield too due to his high work rate. His ability to move into wide areas also means he'll compliment Flamini. The way I see it, right now with Ganso we could look to have a lineup looking something like...

--------------Abbiati----------------
Zambro?---Nesta--Thiago----Antonini
-----Flamini----Pirlo-----Ambro------
--------------Ganso-----------------
---------Pato--------Borriello--------

With a view to moving towards something like this in the next few years...

------------------GK?--------------------
RB?------Papa?-------Thiago-----Antonini
------Merkel----Strasser?----Flamini------
-----------------Ganso-------------------
-----------Verdi----------Pato-----------

Initially, this might look a little lightweight, but let's not forget Pato, Verdi, Merkel, Ganso and Strasser are very young. In the next few years we will see them grow and much of that will be developing bigger and stronger muscles. Pato is already around 6ft and could be a very powerful striker in the future (like Sheva in the past). Merkel and Strasser too look like they could become very powerful players.

Originally Posted by ACMILAN1983

I really do think we need to seriously consider Ganso. I say this because under Allegri, we look like we're going to play with a modern playmaker ahead of the midfield and Ganso fits the mould perfectly. I'm aware we have Verdi and Merkel also trying to break through, but I don't see Ganso as an obstacle for them, as Verdi would aim to play further up as part of the attack along with Pato. Merkel I'm certain is capable of playing deeper in midfield too due to his high work rate. His ability to move into wide areas also means he'll compliment Flamini. The way I see it, right now with Ganso we could look to have a lineup looking something like...

We are out of this possible race to sign him I think: now he is in NT and will probably be a regular starter of the Brazil NT, we have no chance to get him, his price is going to be too high for us, unfortunately. The problem is I don't see any European big club nowadays who could be a good place for this player to shine, I don't see any other place more perfect than us ...

Chelsea ? They don't use an AM, so he will be put as a second striker, on a side or in central midfield (Anderson, AM -> CM in Manchester).
Barcelona ? Same thing, well, he could manage to play there as a CM because Iniesta for example, an AM, can play as a CM thanks to the freedom given by the coach. The problem is that would Guardiola replace one of his stars (Iniesta-Xavi) by Ganso ? I don't think so.
Arsenal, Manchester United, City ? Same as Chelsea, and anyway, I don't see this player in Premier League, that would be a waste.
Lyon ? Puel would destroy him by trying to play him in midfield (same problem as the English teams). And by the way, Lyon isn't a big team !!
Real Madrid ? The player said his dream was to play in Madrid, but given the way Madrid will play (with Ronaldo, they will probably use wingers), I don't see how Ganso could shine there nowadays.
Bayern ? They use wingers ...

Milan ? Needs desperately a new AM, a classical one, to replace Ronaldinho sooner or later ...

And if Genoa was to offer the player to us ?

Dzeko confirmed that last year, he had an agreement with Wolsburg to leave if Milan was to make an offer for him this summer. He confirmed that Milan tried to get him this summer, and that Juventus was very interested too. He said the reason why everything was refused was given by Hoeness: the agreement was with Armin Veh and Frank Aehlig who aren't in Wolfsburg anymore, so the agreement, for Hoeness, isn't valid anymore.

When I learnt that Uli Hoeness was the technical director of Wolfsburg I knew that it wouldn't be easy for any team to try to buy Dzeko. This man is one of the most outspoken and controversial men in football ever since his Munchen days.

Originally Posted by GeoTav

We are out of this possible race to sign him I think: now he is in NT and will probably be a regular starter of the Brazil NT, we have no chance to get him, his price is going to be too high for us, unfortunately. The problem is I don't see any European big club nowadays who could be a good place for this player to shine, I don't see any other place more perfect than us ...

Chelsea ? They don't use an AM, so he will be put as a second striker, on a side or in central midfield (Anderson, AM -> CM in Manchester).
Barcelona ? Same thing, well, he could manage to play there as a CM because Iniesta for example, an AM, can play as a CM thanks to the freedom given by the coach. The problem is that would Guardiola replace one of his stars (Iniesta-Xavi) by Ganso ? I don't think so.
Arsenal, Manchester United, City ? Same as Chelsea, and anyway, I don't see this player in Premier League, that would be a waste.
Lyon ? Puel would destroy him by trying to play him in midfield (same problem as the English teams). And by the way, Lyon isn't a big team !!
Real Madrid ? The player said his dream was to play in Madrid, but given the way Madrid will play (with Ronaldo, they will probably use wingers), I don't see how Ganso could shine there nowadays.
Bayern ? They use wingers ...

Milan ? Needs desperately a new AM, a classical one, to replace Ronaldinho sooner or later ...

And if Genoa was to offer the player to us ?

It's true that we probably can't afford him, but if Berlu is serious about a gift then I don't think he can do better than Ganso. Also if we're that serious about Ibra, I'd rather we concentrate on Ganso and getting him.