The best Goalkeeper

Originally Posted by sehnsucht79

thats because our players decided to be 3 yr old boys who couldnt even kick a ball properly on that day. you cant judge just based on that. thats idiocy.

bla bla bla bla....... hope that Liverpool can kick your a$$es

Sehnsucht, you are really a bit out of sorts on this. What I mean is that you call other's choice of Dida "biased" while your saying Buffon is the best while being a Juve fan is not biased at all and a most objective opinion.
Apart from that, Buffon IS a great goalkeeper but all this hype that was created around him by the Italian media in search of their Dino Zoff of the 21st century, has gone way over the top. Buffon has had many, many bad moments. He has let in goals that normally every good goalkeeper would have saved but all this has very opportunistically avoided the attention of the media. Buffon is hailed without limits when he has a good game but when he performs at an average level, and these are not so rare occasions, his mistakes are covered up and no italian jurnalist seems willing to focus on that.
All in all, your opinion on Buiffon being the world's best is just as biased as any Milan's fan saying that Dida is numero 1. For me there are several goalkeepers that could be called "one of the best" and there is no such thing as the best. If I could choose, I would take Cech over anybody for the guy is just 22 years old and has a good 10-12 years in fron of him, apart from that Dida, Buffon, Cech, or Cassilas, in no particular order, are probably the 4 best keepers in the world today. All this is very relative for a keeper's perfomance depends most and foremost on the defence infront of him so maybe out there we have a great talent but the crappy defenders in fron of him just don't allow him to be seen.

Calm down, guys. Everyone has his or her opinions on the best gk. I'd rather choose Cech, been watch chel$$ki game several times and sometimes when their defence is weak, he often do awesome saves. Lucky Chel$$ki get him. And if I didn't wrong, he came from a french club which he became Kameni's sub (When Kameni still playing Le Havre) ??

On the other hand could be Taibi vs Southampton, Carroll vs Milan.
just kidding..MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally Posted by zlatanov

Sehnsucht, you are really a bit out of sorts on this. What I mean is that you call other's choice of Dida "biased" while your saying Buffon is the best while being a Juve fan is not biased at all and a most objective opinion.
Apart from that, Buffon IS a great goalkeeper but all this hype that was created around him by the Italian media in search of their Dino Zoff of the 21st century, has gone way over the top. Buffon has had many, many bad moments. He has let in goals that normally every good goalkeeper would have saved but all this has very opportunistically avoided the attention of the media. Buffon is hailed without limits when he has a good game but when he performs at an average level, and these are not so rare occasions, his mistakes are covered up and no italian jurnalist seems willing to focus on that.
All in all, your opinion on Buiffon being the world's best is just as biased as any Milan's fan saying that Dida is numero 1. For me there are several goalkeepers that could be called "one of the best" and there is no such thing as the best. If I could choose, I would take Cech over anybody for the guy is just 22 years old and has a good 10-12 years in fron of him, apart from that Dida, Buffon, Cech, or Cassilas, in no particular order, are probably the 4 best keepers in the world today. All this is very relative for a keeper's perfomance depends most and foremost on the defence infront of him so maybe out there we have a great talent but the crappy defenders in fron of him just don't allow him to be seen.

Yes, perhaps it was wrong of me to automatically one's claim as a 'biased' one when Dida was picked over Buffon. But I digress - Buffon might be hyped about and it is true he has his bad moments like any other player (who could ever forget his first flop for Juventus against Chievo, that was hilarious) but Gigi Buffon has really come up with some SERIOUS FANTASTIC saves that I personally feel (after watching other keepers I might add) no other keeper can do. This is however not to belittle the other contenders for this title, Dida is also superb and Cech like you mentioned is just 22 and he has been fascinating to watch although I have never been really keen on Casillas much now.. In conclusion, we are fortunate to have such great goalkeepers in our hands but comparing every single required skill of goalkeeping for each goalie, most people and myself find that Buffon tops the list.

my list of goalkeepersw goes like this

1) dida
2) buffon
3) frey
4) casillas
5) cech

i tihnk the difference between dida and buffon is that buffon looks more spectacular when he saves, like maradona on another thread said that robinho wants to make the crowd go oooooohhhh and aaaaaaahhhhh, buffon is like that, and hes successful at it, dida is more reliable i think, his positioning is much better and when a cross is coming very rarely do u see him not getting hold of it, and thats why people dont find him better than buffon, hes not as exciting as buffon but hes definatly more reliable.

in terms of excitment i think frey is as exciting as buffon, but wether he can do that with a bigger club than parma remains a mystery, i think hes extremely underrated and im still wondering why france dont start him or even chose him, its not like im complaining though. i really hope we sign him when dida retires!!!

no I hope we don't sign Frey. I hate show boating keepers. I absolutely would not trade anyone in the world for Dida, he's commanding and very reliable and when assesing any keeper those would be the two words I'd favour. I don't think he's the best in the world for saving impossible shots, I do think Buffon is better than him in that respect.

However that said, sometimes when choosing the best striker in the world or best midfielder, you look at the quality of the goals, the skill and the ability to do things others can't, this is not always the player who sits on top of the scorers chart. and that's why I wouldn't have Dida, I believe although he may not be capable of every astonishing save Buffon is (some are still amazing though.) I think having him between our sticks means we concede fewer goals than we would with any other keeper.

Originally Posted by sehnsucht79

thats because our players decided to be 3 yr old boys who couldnt even kick a ball properly on that day. you cant judge just based on that. thats idiocy.

nice excuse . . . rather lame

Originally Posted by philly_chris

Personally I like Dida better, I don't understand the Buffon hype . . . maybe I havent seen him enough.

I don't understand the hype either, I think he would be a more effective goalkeeper if he actually caught the balls instead of punching them back out to his opponents. I think women and gay men fancy him due to the nude photos of him and his schlong.

Casillas has more class than Buffon. Buffon reminds me of an enraged punching monkey infront of his goal cage, also for the fact he will hump anything that moves.

I'd put Buffon as no.1, both he and Dida are completely trusted by their defences but Buffon has the edge on shotstopping.

Casillas is a decent keeper but he isnt at the level of Dida and Buffon yet, he still makes the occasional bad decision.

Cech is only in his first season at Chelsea so its too early to judge how good he really is. Most of the shots on Chelsea's goal get blocked by John Terry, who saves as many with his face as Cech does with his hands Also, remember that Tim Howard was Premiership keeper of the year in his first season, 1 bad mistake can set a keeper back a long way

Originally Posted by Stezagud

Also, remember that Tim Howard was Premiership keeper of the year in his first season, 1 bad mistake can set a keeper back a long way

Even Dida can attest to that

The kid who played for Roma looks to be one for the future

Originally Posted by Stezagud

Also, remember that Tim Howard was Premiership keeper of the year in his first season, 1 bad mistake can set a keeper back a long way

I know, I think it's ridiculous, I'm a man U fan (i didn't even know which way I swung more until the the run-up to the CL tie) and I keep hearing all this moaning about a new goalie. Personally I think it was a case of difficult-second-season syndrome and they need to give Howard another run, I think he'll turn out to be an exellent keeper.

i think they need a new goalkeeper.. u can never be too sure, united shouldnt take any risks now, they need a GK and a DM and for god sakes theyre the richest team on earth and those 2 positions are usually some of the cheapest out there

FORZA DIDA!

I know, I think it's ridiculous, I'm a man U fan (i didn't even know which way I swung more until the the run-up to the CL tie) and I keep hearing all this moaning about a new goalie. Personally I think it was a case of difficult-second-season syndrome and they need to give Howard another run, I think he'll turn out to be an exellent keeper.

yeah, when we didnt have Rio only Gary Neville really took charge of situations so Howard had to make a lot of decisions that he should never have had to worry about. When the defence and keeper lack communication an error is almost a certainty

He's done good since getting back into the side but im not sure if he'll be first choice next year as Gill has announced Utd will be looking to replace Carroll as it seems he wont sign his new contract...

i think they need a new goalkeeper.. u can never be too sure, united shouldnt take any risks now, they need a GK and a DM and for god sakes theyre the richest team on earth and those 2 positions are usually some of the cheapest out there

Profits have been hit by 2 years of underperforming and a big investment in Rooney so im not sure what funds are there in the summer. The midfielder that comes would have to be absolute top class and those players do cost money, Essien has put himself in the shop window already so maybe he'll be the one.

Originally Posted by philly_chris

nice excuse . . . rather lame

it is true. juventus might've lost but buffon I feel did well in the CL final's penalties. besides, judging him just based on that is ludicrous.