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yes, we need him 28 50.91%
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Old 24-05-2005, 12:58   #16

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Let Gerrard stay in England.
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Old 24-05-2005, 13:07   #17

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Well, I don't like Steven Gerrard at all (not because I think he is a bad football player, he is actually quite good).

But Liverpool fans saying that they'd be better off without Gerrard than without Alonso? I mean Alonso is a good player and all, but Gerrard seems to be one of the most committed players in the Liverpool team. I don't know how much of the tabloid talk about Gerrard leaving is true, but certainly, if those kind of offers came in for Alonso, do you think he'd hang around at Liverpool?
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Old 24-05-2005, 13:11   #18

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I think he would adapt quite well and he would be almost as influential playing in our midfield 3. It doesn't matter what league you are in, tackling, passing and shooting are the same wherever you play ... those 3 areas of the game don't change if you play in England or Italy or wherever. With him you would get 100% commitment and effort, something that is sometimes lacking from certain other midfielders.

But i agree, it would be a waste of time and money to buy him if you weren't going to start him.

Plus i want him to stay at Liverpool ... although if he did have to move, i would hope it would be to Milan
Almost everything is different when you go from EPL to Serie A - space provided by the oponent, field organization of the opponent as a team, etc. All this greatly effects the efficency of a player maybe not how hard he tackles but definitely the accuracy of his passing. Shooting accuracy does depend on personal ability and this is the same in EPL or Serie A however one thing that is different, and CRUCIAL, is the time ont the ball given to Gerrard by his opponents and enough space to aim and execute that shot in an accurate manner. This is where the difference between Serie A and EPL lies - Gerrard may have the same personal abilities in Italy but what he won't find there is the ample amount of time and space he enjoys so much in the EPL.
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Old 24-05-2005, 16:55   #19

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Ah yes, the old "time on the ball" suggestion. To be perfectly honest, i don't think that is entirely relevant now-a-days ... it doesn't hold as much meaning as it used to. It is widely regarded that the Premiership is the fastest league in the world, most foreign players that come to England always find it hard to adjust to the pace and the high tempo of the game. People who have played in Italy and/or Spain say how quick it is here compared to the slower natured games on the continent, so how can you say you get more time on the ball in the premiership ?

Whatever league you are in, if you play against a good team you'll be closed down quickly and denied the space or time to work in. You find that all over, not just in Italy. Besides, if you're a good enough player, you make your own time and space on the ball no matter where you play your football.

I'm not saying he'd take to serie A like a duck to water, there would be a period of transition just like any player would experience from outside Italy. But he would get over it and adjust.

Why am i not surprised that is your view Maradona (10) ?
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Old 25-05-2005, 05:44   #20

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You haven't got a chance of getting Stevie off us!
Silly, of course there is a chance, while that all depends on what Gerrard himself want.

I would welcome him with open arms, not that we are in need of him. His combination of technical and physical strenghts are great and he would fit nice into our team. Of course we could discuss instead of who he would play and so on.
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Old 25-05-2005, 10:41   #21

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Of course we could discuss instead of who he would play and so on.
A tough choice as Gerrard can play any as a defensive, central, right or attacking midfielder and still be effective. If he could be persauded to sit on the bench he'd be the ultimate midfield substitute
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Why am i not surprised that is your view Maradona (10) ?
Maybe because we dont need Gerrard?

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Hmmm I just found out that Traore actually rejected a deal to join Milan sometime back and chose to join 'Pool instead

Ok so its quite unrelated to the thread but whatever
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Hmmm I just found out that Traore actually rejected a deal to join Milan sometime back and chose to join 'Pool instead

Lucky for Us, anyway last night he was more of a Milan player than anything else
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Old 26-05-2005, 11:04   #25

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the "Pirates" did you a favour mate....


Im astonished to see a player like Traore lift the Champions League anyone who saw his performance against lowly Burnley in this years FA Cup (he scored the best own goal of the season) will be too. I honestly thought he'd be loaned out ands then sold this summer after that but he actually played well vs Chelsea and Juve. Last night his terrible positional sense was horribly exposed though, unfortunately to no avail
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pool should atleast thank him for clearing a sheva goal off the line
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Old 28-05-2005, 07:20   #27
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no need to him. english market is way too costly and not so good. we shall look to brazilian/argentinian market where real talent is found.
 
Old 28-05-2005, 14:00   #28

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no need to him. english market is way too costly and not so good. we shall look to brazilian/argentinian market where real talent is found.
Of course.
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Old 28-05-2005, 15:32   #29

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talented players are found everywhere, including England ... it's not monopolised by Argentina and Brazil

Plus the football market in general is costly, not just in the Premiership.
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the "Pirates" did you a favour mate....


Im astonished to see a player like Traore lift the Champions League anyone who saw his performance against lowly Burnley in this years FA Cup (he scored the best own goal of the season) will be too. I honestly thought he'd be loaned out ands then sold this summer after that but he actually played well vs Chelsea and Juve. Last night his terrible positional sense was horribly exposed though, unfortunately to no avail
i can`t believe harry kewell has a winners medal too!!! LOL!!

i think gerrard would be awesome in any team.

i think he could replace seedorf no problem. the guy can do everything as he has 100% commitment and a "never say die" attitude, which u cant say about everyone else in the milan team....
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