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Old 07-07-2005, 17:00   #16

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Not so long ago I discussed this with Zlatanov, and I told him that Milan was making no effort to retain Hernan. Well, here it is.
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Old 07-07-2005, 17:14   #17

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There is hardly any logic in what you say. So, if Crespo didn't end up in Milan, therefore we didn't make any effort whatsoever to keep him - if life was that simple, you wouldn't need a VISA credit card. Following your logic, Milan should pay whatever price Chelsea were asking for him. What if they asked for 100 mi euros - just an example - should we make an "Abramovich" on them and count the money just because we want Crespo? And if we refuse to give them 100 mil, should someone like you say "I discussed this with Zlatanov, and I told him that Milan was making no effort to retain Hernan. Well, here it is."
It is one thing to want a player and make an effort to keep him and a completely different story if that same player BELONGS to another team, which are unwilling to let him come to Milan unless Milan pays them 10-15 mil euros and backs off from Gilardino.
For every player, including Crespo and Gilardino, there is something called "right and reasonable price" and when the other side is asking for something more than that you say - no thank, good luck. End of story.
Sorry buddy, but try to reason a bit more than that - the path right in front of you is not always the shortest.
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Old 07-07-2005, 18:23   #18

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Milan didn't offer a penny for Crespo. They wanted another season of loan. That.s insane for a player who scored 2 goals in the final of the champion's league. If Chelsea were almost ready to extend his loan then they would have sold him for around E7-8 mil. To get Crespo for free is not a "reasonable price". Its a shame because Crespo played with his heart and is much better than Tommason and Vieri. But really I feel sorry for Crespo for what happened with him.
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Old 07-07-2005, 18:43   #19

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Milan didn't offer a penny for Crespo. They wanted another season of loan. That.s insane for a player who scored 2 goals in the final of the champion's league. If Chelsea were almost ready to extend his loan then they would have sold him for around E7-8 mil. To get Crespo for free is not a "reasonable price". Its a shame because Crespo played with his heart and is much better than Tommason and Vieri. But really I feel sorry for Crespo for what happened with him.
Bingo...and also he played great with Argentina against Brazil. Vieri? Who is Vieri right now?
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Old 07-07-2005, 19:00   #20

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Bingo...and also he played great with Argentina against Brazil. Vieri? Who is Vieri right now?
Vieri is the guy who scored more goals in Serie A this season than Crespo.

Not to mention he was free.
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Old 07-07-2005, 19:16   #21

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Vieri is the guy who scored more goals in Serie A this season than Crespo.

Not to mention he was free.
But isnt as talented as Crespo. And is injury prone. And is like 32 years old. And chokes when it counts. And if I read correctly, he will earn 4M per year.
And there was a 2 goal difference (And Vieri scored 2 PK while Crespo didnt).

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Old 07-07-2005, 19:40   #22

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But isnt as talented as Crespo. And is injury prone. And is like 32 years old. And chokes when it counts. And if I read correctly, he will earn 4M per year.
And there was a 2 goal difference (And Vieri scored 2 PK while Crespo didnt).
If I recall correctly Crespo was injured for a good chunk of this season.

Crespo is 30 years old so he is no spring chicken.

The point is Crespo is Chelsea's player. Milan did not want to buy him because of Gila. Vieri remains a good alternative.

In my opinion Vieri has had a sterling career, brighter than Crespo's. They are both solid players. Crespo might have a great touch but Vieri is powerful and just as good in the air.
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Old 07-07-2005, 19:49   #23

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If I recall correctly Crespo was injured for a good chunk of this season.

Crespo is 30 years old so he is no spring chicken.

The point is Crespo is Chelsea's player. Milan did not want to buy him because of Gila. Vieri remains a good alternative.

In my opinion Vieri has had a sterling career, brighter than Crespo's. They are both solid players. Crespo might have a great touch but Vieri is powerful and just as good in the air.
Who cares about carrers? That doesnt count when they start playing next season. Crespo is the better player between the 2, no doubt.
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Old 07-07-2005, 19:53   #24

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Who cares about carrers? That doesnt count when they start playing next season. Crespo is the better player between the 2, no doubt.
what about my other points. I think Vieri will do well for us.
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Old 07-07-2005, 20:09   #25

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what about my other points. I think Vieri will do well for us.
What other points? That Vieri is strong? Yes, he is. The fact is that Crespo wont play for us, while Vieri is going to wear the Rossonero jersey. Thats what counts. Im going to support Vieri, but I wish Crespo would have stayed.
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Oh come on its obvious Kenyon never intended to let him stay with us so its time to forget him and try and support the player who has taken his place.
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Old 07-07-2005, 23:12   #27

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Vieri is like a flag pole. He hardly even moves. Crespo might not be the complete striker like Sheva but he still has some what decent dribbling skills and decent speed. The only thing good about Vieri was his shooting and heading skills and he's also lost those skills. Batistuta (one of the best ever) was a greater striker than Vieri at his peak but when Inter signed him from Roma he was a finished player. Its the same now for Vieri
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I think youre being a little hard on vieri Omer. Yeah hes had a tough season, but hes had to come to terms with the fact that hes not the top man anymore (ie Adriano and Martins). I think a fresh start may do him some good. If all he can do is use his strength to lay the ball off to Sheva and Kaka, Il be happy. But we all know he can do much more given the chance. Hes not at the stage of Batigol yet, either.
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Chelsea striker Hernan Crespo has hit out at AC Milan after seeing his hopes of returning this season ended with their signing of Christian Vieri.

"With me, Milan has been playing a two-sided game," said the angry Argie. "Milan has told me lies, one day I will open my heart and everyone will hear what the true story is."
I agree there's nothing we can do about Crespo right now. He's gone. But the remarks he made after his departure still saddens me. Yes, call me a guy that just can't seem to get over this. He was in the thick of the negotiations so he more than anyone else, should know if Milan or Chelsea were playing games with him.

I would be the first to sigh of relief, if the above report is indeed a load a BS as some of you have said. Till then it seems to me that we've really disappointed a player who, despite his shortcommings, gave us so much last season.
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Old 08-07-2005, 05:42   #30

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I agree there's nothing we can do about Crespo right now. He's gone. But the remarks he made after his departure still saddens me. Yes, call me a guy that just can't seem to get over this. He was in the thick of the negotiations so he more than anyone else, should know if Milan or Chelsea were playing games with him.

I would be the first to sigh of relief, if the above report is indeed a load a BS as some of you have said. Till then it seems to me that we've really disappointed a player who, despite his shortcommings, gave us so much last season.
if you read these comments on somewhere other than tribalfootball then get sad.
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