Messina - Milan 22/04/2006

Originally Posted by rahul.acm

we still have a match against roma!

yeah u right but that is the last match and we can calculate it just like we did against schalke, bayer, and lyon .

Let's stop talking about things that can change from one game to another. We have to take the remaining games one by one and will assess our position and chances when the last 1-2 games are left.
To say that we are gonna win the scudetto if Juve draws and we win tomorrow is speculative at best for they will still have 2 points more than us. Also, capello isn't exactly known for throwing titles away and Juve's trademark is winning games by playing bad and getting a hand or two from the refs, so ....
I persoannly am very worried about the game vs Messina because it would be very difficult for coach and players to concentrate on that game given that the one vs Barca is a do or die for us. It won't be a shocking surprise to me at all if we drew or who knows, maybe even lost that game.

Originally Posted by sheva-gila

if juve will draw tomorow against lazio than scudetto its our 100%.

what a stupid thing to say... sorry

o yeahhhhh i didnt knew that ur so genios thanks allote so tall me have u ever think that after 14 pionts we just came on 5 this is aslo stupid or we are still 14 points behind tall me or im dreaming???

Originally Posted by mk18

what a stupid thing to say... sorry

stupid it seams, huh? Its a more realistic goal than ucl

Originally Posted by rahul.acm

stupid it seams, huh? Its a more realistic goal than ucl

Not sure what you mean by more and less realistic when getting the CL or not depends entirely on us and us alone - all we need is win 2 games, it won't be easy but it's FAR from impossible or unrealistic.
Winning the Serie A title, on the other hand, is out of our hands as Juve have 5 pts more than us with only 4 games to play. This means we can win all the remaining games without getting the title as we would have to rely on external factors - Juve losing at least 5 points - in order for us to get the scudetto.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

Not sure what you mean by more and less realistic when getting the CL or not depends entirely on us and us alone - all we need is win 2 games, it won't be easy but it's FAR from impossible or unrealistic.
Winning the Serie A title, on the other hand, is out of our hands as Juve have 5 pts more than us with only 4 games to play. This means we can win all the remaining games without getting the title as we would have to rely on external factors - Juve losing at least 5 points - in order for us to get the scudetto.

i meant the scudetto, we are just 3 scudettos away from the second stella. I agree we are high spirited, but in the ucl matches we cannot afford a slip, whereas in serie a we can afford atleast a draw! we are 2 ucl games away from cl glory, but we are up against barca at home and hopefully, arsenal later, these matches are going to be very taxing on our players than the league matches.

Originally Posted by rahul.acm

i meant the scudetto, we are just 3 scudettos away from the second stella. I agree we are high spirited, but in the ucl matches we cannot afford a slip, whereas in serie a we can afford atleast a draw! we are 2 ucl games away from cl glory, but we are up against barca at home and hopefully, arsenal later, these matches are going to be very taxing on our players than the ucl matches.

to tell you the truth I am a bit lost on what your point is/was. Not sure what the number of stars/scudettos has to do with how we are gonna finish the current season. It's true that CL games are more energy demanding but there are only 2 left and they will be spaced relatively far apart from one another, so that shouldn't play a big role in going for the CL given that we rotate the squad a bit in Serie games.
As for what I meant - yeah, it's clear that we can have the CL only if we win the next two games and we don't really have an alternative for that. We may not have room for errors but at least our fate is in our own hands. In Serie A, theoretically, we can draw or lose a game or even two and still win the title but practically, should we fail to win even one of the remaining 4 games, we could kiss the title goodbye. My biggest "trouble", however, is that in Serie A our success doesn't entirely depend on how we do but also on how Juve performs and these are things we have no control on ... unless Galliani finally decides to excercise his power and have a "convincing" talk with the refs or something

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Originally Posted by sheva-gila

o yeahhhhh i didnt knew that ur so genios thanks allote so tall me have u ever think that after 14 pionts we just came on 5 this is aslo stupid or we are still 14 points behind tall me or im dreaming???

if juve draw and we win ... there would still be 2 points to separate us... with 3 games to go... still in juve's favour...

Originally Posted by rahul.acm

stupid it seams, huh? Its a more realistic goal than ucl

im not sure what u were trying to say in the following posts but the scudetto depends on what juve do more than what we do, the CL is entirely on us, we have to win both games... whereas in the scudetto even if we do win the remaining games, it still might not go our way.

so i guess.. the CL is still more realistic

MESSINA-MILAN, LE FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
22/04/2006
MILANO - Così in campo allo stadio 'San Filippo' per la 35esima giornata di Serie A:

MESSINA: Storari; Zoro, Zanchi, Aronica, Parisi; Antonelli, Nocerino, Donati, Sculli; Floccari, Muslimovic. All: Ventura.

A disposizione: Caglioni, Innocenti, Cristante, Bondi, Sullo, Nanni, Di Napoli.

MILAN: Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Serginho; Gattuso, Rui Costa, Seedorf; Kakà; Shevchenko, Gilardino. All: Ancelotti.

A disposizione: Kalac, Simic, Stam, Aubameyang, Jankulovski, Ambrosini, Amoroso.

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According to Goal.com Juve will play without Nedved, Viera and Giannichedda that are all injured... add to that the absence of Comoranesi and I say Juve is in big troubles. There were so many matches this season when Juve was supposed to lose and didn't, today they have to lose. I still believe in the scudetto...

And mk8 if Juve draw and we win then it's 3 points and not 2... and why did u insult sheva-gila?? When I insult someone I immediately receive warnings and threats, and when u do it that's ok??

And yes we have more chance to win the scudeto than CL, because Juve is weak and Barca is strong.

Nedved is starting, Del Piero is on the bench thats good news

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lol... 1-0 to messina