zlatanov

zlatanov · 11-05-2006, 06:05

Yes, it's true - should we end up with the same pts, we beat Juve to the title thanks to better record in the direct games.
I believe they made an exception for this season only due to the world cup. don't think the change is permanent, though.

mrki · 11-05-2006, 06:53

There is no playoff becouse of the World Cup ( which wll be won by superb Brazil superteam....

) I cant give you source but if Milan nad Juve finish draw in points, we are champions.

Warro Bantan · 11-05-2006, 11:06

This will be a difficult match to win, but having said that, its still winnable.

Juve, should, and probably will win vs Reggina, and as such their 29th scudetto.

I just look back at the dropped points along the way, and wonder how different it would have been had we won vs Lecce... I will be watching the match (hopefully), and I expect one of our better performances vs the Romans.

Totti probably will play at some point, and we need to shut him and their Brazilian, Mancini, down in order to ensure victory.

No predictions, just a bit depressed at the most likely outcome of the domestic portion of this season.

As usual...FORZA MIIIIIIIIIILAN!!

Kui · 11-05-2006, 11:17

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Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

I just look back at the dropped points along the way, and wonder how different it would have been had we won vs Lecce

Wait... wait... wait. You said what game again? The

may not be on your face, but I clearly recall people trying to rationalize and use the utilitarian way to excuse the scudetto for the CL. Of course they would. And both were conspiracies against Milan. Of course! Didnt I have to apologize about something in this thread? LOL!

sheva-gila · 11-05-2006, 11:19

if juve lose and we win, scudetto shoould be our cuze we have done more goals.
do im wrong???

Kui · 11-05-2006, 11:23

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Originally Posted by sheva-gila

if juve lose and we win, scudetto shoould be our cuze we have done more goals.
do im wrong???

From what I gather from the pundits, it is because we had a better "head to head" result than they have against us. We had 1 draw and 1 win. If it had been for Juve 1 draw and 1 win against us, they would be the champs. This is what I get from what members like Zlat and hitman are saying. I'll take what they have said. I have no idea myself really.

sheva-gila · 11-05-2006, 11:32

i think isnt all about head to heead result but what wuld happen if result is 1 to 1 ???

hitmannq8 · 11-05-2006, 16:52

It is head to head record. We won 3-1, and drew 1-1 away thus giving us the advantage. If both games were a draw (of the same result only, dont forget that away goals count), then they would see the goal difference. If goal difference is the same, then they would see who has more goals scored.

And no it is not just because it is a world cup year, but i think this is a permanent change.

Warro Bantan · 11-05-2006, 17:09

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Originally Posted by Kui

Wait... wait... wait. You said what game again? The

may not be on your face, but I clearly recall people trying to rationalize and use the utilitarian way to excuse the scudetto for the CL.

Ahh Kui...what am I going to do with you!!! We also dropped points against other teams when the UCL was in its infancy this season...I just used the first case of us dropping points that came to mind.

As to your last statement...indeed, and here come the "ifs"...

If Merk hadnt sabotaged our season, we might have been in the final with Arsenal

If we won that game, who would care if we came second to Juve? I for one would be quite happy with a UCL trophy!

If we hadnt lost to Roma, et al, we would be ahead of Juve now...

But if "if" was a fifth, I would be drunk...

Jeff · 11-05-2006, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Kui

From what I gather from the pundits, it is because we had a better "head to head" result than they have against us. We had 1 draw and 1 win. If it had been for Juve 1 draw and 1 win against us, they would be the champs. This is what I get from what members like Zlat and hitman are saying. I'll take what they have said. I have no idea myself really.

Doesn't matter really. It's a win for MIlan if Juventus lose and Milan win.

rahul.acm · 11-05-2006, 20:16

we have a much better GD so h2h doesn't come in to the picture! neway juve losing tommo is like p/i/gs flying so another year without any trophy

minhduc · 11-05-2006, 21:53

This change (no play-off) has been taken from this season and I believe it is a permanent change. Source: Galliani said that on acmilan.com when last season was due to finish, someone can look back. it was something like this: We all agreed that in a lenghty season there is no room for 2 play-off matches...

Head-to-head counts first and then goal difference and then the number of goal scored. All these give us a lead should we are able to level the points, the bloody 3 points.

mrki · 12-05-2006, 07:01

It will be nice to see Juve next year with 27 scudettos and milan with 19 without actually celebrating a thing in the last 2 seasons. Anyway, we'll win against Roma. prediction 2-1 ( gila,gila,mancini)

Bram · 12-05-2006, 07:18

i will be present at San Siro Sunday. Hopefully, a miracle happens ...

Kui · 12-05-2006, 07:59

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Originally Posted by Bram

i will be present at San Siro Sunday. Hopefully, a miracle happens ...

Well B I guess you'll be our lucky charm then! Ready to take on that burden??? I'll totally understand if you turn the honor down. LOL! Wouldnt wanna blame you if all goes bad right???

11-05-2006, 06:53	#17
mrki Registered User Join Date: 04 2005 Location: Croatia Fave Players: Maldini, Boban, Inzaghi	There is no playoff becouse of the World Cup ( which wll be won by superb Brazil superteam.... ) I cant give you source but if Milan nad Juve finish draw in points, we are champions. __________________ "Where others have succeeded, I have always failed..." Jacques Clouseau

11-05-2006, 11:06	#18
Warro Bantan Moderator Join Date: 08 1999 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Fave Players: Rui Costa, Pirlo, Pato	This will be a difficult match to win, but having said that, its still winnable. Juve, should, and probably will win vs Reggina, and as such their 29th scudetto. I just look back at the dropped points along the way, and wonder how different it would have been had we won vs Lecce... I will be watching the match (hopefully), and I expect one of our better performances vs the Romans. Totti probably will play at some point, and we need to shut him and their Brazilian, Mancini, down in order to ensure victory. No predictions, just a bit depressed at the most likely outcome of the domestic portion of this season. As usual...FORZA MIIIIIIIIIILAN!! __________________ I Love Milan.

11-05-2006, 11:19	#20
sheva-gila Registered User Join Date: 09 2005 Location: kosovo Fave Players: Maldini, Nesta, R80, T.Silva, Pato	if juve lose and we win, scudetto shoould be our cuze we have done more goals. do im wrong??? __________________ AC MILAN

11-05-2006, 11:32	#22
sheva-gila Registered User Join Date: 09 2005 Location: kosovo Fave Players: Maldini, Nesta, R80, T.Silva, Pato	i think isnt all about head to heead result but what wuld happen if result is 1 to 1 ??? __________________ AC MILAN

11-05-2006, 20:16	#26
rahul.acm Registered User Join Date: 03 2006	we have a much better GD so h2h doesn't come in to the picture! neway juve losing tommo is like p/i/gs flying so another year without any trophy __________________ You got a dream, you gotta protect it. People can't do something themselves, they wanna tell you that you can't do it. You want something? Go get it. Period.

11-05-2006, 06:05	#16
zlatanov Moderator Join Date: 07 2003 Location: Nowhere near San Siro :( Fave Players: Zinedine Zidane, Genarro Gattuso, Alessandro Nesta	Yes, it's true - should we end up with the same pts, we beat Juve to the title thanks to better record in the direct games. I believe they made an exception for this season only due to the world cup. don't think the change is permanent, though.

11-05-2006, 16:52	#23
hitmannq8 Registered User Join Date: 10 2004 Location: Montreal, Kuwait Fave Players: Kaka, Nesta, Rui Costa, Pato, Robinho	It is head to head record. We won 3-1, and drew 1-1 away thus giving us the advantage. If both games were a draw (of the same result only, dont forget that away goals count), then they would see the goal difference. If goal difference is the same, then they would see who has more goals scored. And no it is not just because it is a world cup year, but i think this is a permanent change.

11-05-2006, 21:53	#27
minhduc Registered User Join Date: 04 2006	This change (no play-off) has been taken from this season and I believe it is a permanent change. Source: Galliani said that on acmilan.com when last season was due to finish, someone can look back. it was something like this: We all agreed that in a lenghty season there is no room for 2 play-off matches... Head-to-head counts first and then goal difference and then the number of goal scored. All these give us a lead should we are able to level the points, the bloody 3 points. Last edited by minhduc; 11-05-2006 at 21:55.

12-05-2006, 07:01	#28
mrki Registered User Join Date: 04 2005 Location: Croatia Fave Players: Maldini, Boban, Inzaghi	It will be nice to see Juve next year with 27 scudettos and milan with 19 without actually celebrating a thing in the last 2 seasons. Anyway, we'll win against Roma. prediction 2-1 ( gila,gila,mancini) __________________ "Where others have succeeded, I have always failed..." Jacques Clouseau

12-05-2006, 07:18	#29
Bram Registered User Join Date: 05 1999 Location: Oostende,Belgium Fave Players: Savicevic, Leonardo, Baggio, Maldini, Pirlo, Kaka,	i will be present at San Siro Sunday. Hopefully, a miracle happens ... __________________ Is Milan and Italy back to rise the world again??

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