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Old 12-08-2006, 07:09   #16

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A better option for me, when it comes to spending a lot of money, would be Tevez.
the offer or the money we are prepared to give shall not match chelseas or man u's offer we can kiss tevez good bye
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:17   #17

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well, for Torres' signature we also have competition from ManU and Chelski with the Londoners being long-time admirers of Torres - they've been trying to sign him for the past 2 years now but have always had their 30+ mil euros offers rejected by Atletico.
Now, afer the departure of RVN, ManU is also hot on Torres' trail and are willing to splash big for a new forward.
If we get a new GK, be that Buffon or Amelia, we could have an advantage in the race, provided there is one, for Tevez and even Mascherano thanks to the fact that Corinthians are interested in Dida, who played for them the last time we loaned him out in Brazil.
In the end of the day, my point is we'll face strong competition for either Torres or Tevez and will have to spend big. If it goes that far, my personal pref. is for the Argentinian.
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:30   #18

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yeh but you say u dont like torres because you think he has not had that much expoeriece in seria a but the same goes for tevez aswell, none of them 2 have had expoerience and it is a big risk no matter who we go with.

is there any update on what channel this game is going to be shown on??
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:43   #19

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So it's 22 GMT.

I'd love to have Tevez too. More than with torres. I think Torres is more suitable to replace Sheva. he can shot by both foot, head, dribble, accelerate well. Tevez can't head well since he is kinda short. But torres is too expensive and tevez is easier to buy so I'd like to have Tevez.

Supreme: Tevez is easier to get. I haven't ever thought we can't beat MU at transferring. But I don't think we can beat Chelsea's bid for Torres.

zlatanov: if my post is not suitable here, can you move it to Transfer
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yeh but you say u dont like torres because you think he has not had that much expoeriece in seria a but the same goes for tevez aswell, none of them 2 have had expoerience and it is a big risk no matter who we go with.

is there any update on what channel this game is going to be shown on??
He said he doesn't think Torres is as well suited for serie A as Tevez, not about experience.

Sleep, I wouldn't worry about it too much as Torres is obviously going to be under scrutiny in this match and comparisons with Tevez have been occuring all summer.
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:53   #21

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yeh but you say u dont like torres because you think he has not had that much expoeriece in seria a but the same goes for tevez aswell, none of them 2 have had expoerience and it is a big risk no matter who we go with.

is there any update on what channel this game is going to be shown on??
I am still waiting for any info on the channel myself. On this site www.asiaplate.com, they are supposed to show a schedule for games that are on PPStream, PPLive, etc, etc but have yet to update the schedule for today ... the game Atletico-Milan is on that list, so I am hoping for the best

As for why Tevez? Well, true, he doesn't have European experience and this is indeed a reason why I am not all out for Milan to get him since there's always the risk that he won't feel comfortable here and won't settle in. Between him and Torres, however, I prefer Tevez because he at least has shown that can play in a physical championship like the Argentinian League - it's pretty similar to Serie A in both physical play and tactics - and has proven himself in the Brazilian championship as well. Also, he has shown that he can play in big games as he played very well for Corinthians in the Copa Libertadores Tournament (The CL for South America) and, if memory doesn't fool me, I believe led his team to the title in his first or second year at Corinthians.
Another important factor for me is that Argentinian players, just like Brazilian and French, as a rule of thumb find it very, very easy to settle in Serie A. In fact, try to remember when was the last time an Argentinian player came to Serie A and failed to impress because he just couldn't adapt to the Italian game, and this doesn't go just for the likes of superstars but more average players too? I personally don't remeber that.
At the same time, I ask myself a similar question about spaniards - and especially forwards because they suffer the most from the defensive tactics in Serie A - and I realize that it's been several decades now of virtually total failure of any Spanish player who has set foot in Serie A. I know that rules have exceptions but you know, when it comes to putting 30-40 mil euros on the line, one would be very unwise not to consider the advice of history and rules.
Hence my preference for Tevez should it come to choosing between him and Torres.
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:56   #22

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So it's 22 GMT.
zlatanov: if my post is not suitable here, can you move it to Transfer
don't worry, sleep. if your post isn't suitable here then that means most of mine aren't for here either ... it's summer season, I guess it's normal for people to always end up discussing transfers .
I hope I hadn't scared anyone with my constant merging of threads in the transfer forum
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Does anyone know what the Herrera Trophy is and why Milan (Italy) is participating in it? What teams play for this trophy?
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Old 12-08-2006, 08:32   #24

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on the official website it says the game is from 22.00 CET
and on asiaplate it says the game will be on Telemadrid on TVAnts.
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There aren't going to be awarded trophies or titles in this Tournament and they have some different rules (such as unlimited substitutions and no cards). Although many of the teams nowadays rather compete in weekend quadrangular tournaments.

This is all i find - i think Tournament this years is going to hosted by Deportivo La Coruna

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I am still waiting for any info on the channel myself. On this site www.asiaplate.com, they are supposed to show a schedule for games that are on PPStream, PPLive, etc, etc but have yet to update the schedule for today ... the game Atletico-Milan is on that list, so I am hoping for the best

As for why Tevez? Well, true, he doesn't have European experience and this is indeed a reason why I am not all out for Milan to get him since there's always the risk that he won't feel comfortable here and won't settle in. Between him and Torres, however, I prefer Tevez because he at least has shown that can play in a physical championship like the Argentinian League - it's pretty similar to Serie A in both physical play and tactics - and has proven himself in the Brazilian championship as well. Also, he has shown that he can play in big games as he played very well for Corinthians in the Copa Libertadores Tournament (The CL for South America) and, if memory doesn't fool me, I believe led his team to the title in his first or second year at Corinthians.
Another important factor for me is that Argentinian players, just like Brazilian and French, as a rule of thumb find it very, very easy to settle in Serie A. In fact, try to remember when was the last time an Argentinian player came to Serie A and failed to impress because he just couldn't adapt to the Italian game, and this doesn't go just for the likes of superstars but more average players too? I personally don't remeber that.
At the same time, I ask myself a similar question about spaniards - and especially forwards because they suffer the most from the defensive tactics in Serie A - and I realize that it's been several decades now of virtually total failure of any Spanish player who has set foot in Serie A. I know that rules have exceptions but you know, when it comes to putting 30-40 mil euros on the line, one would be very unwise not to consider the advice of history and rules.
Hence my preference for Tevez should it come to choosing between him and Torres.
thankx for that mate, u have given me a much better undersrtanding, i appreciate it and also thanx for keepin me/us updated with the game
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on the official website it says the game is from 22.00 CET
and on asiaplate it says the game will be on Telemadrid on TVAnts.
is that a reliable source? and if so how would be able to get them chennels? thanx
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Best I can find is that it is a competition of 4 teams and the winner of Milan-A Madrid plays Deportivo who won their match against Nacional (Uruguay), the final will be on Sunday.

Also to add, Deportivo is always the host for this tournament
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yes the game will be in Telemadrid i saw their program for tonight !

El SÁBADO 12 DE AGOSTO a las 19:30 o a las 22:00, Telemadrid, emite en directo la semifinal de Trofeo Teresa Herrera que enfrentará a los equpitoas: ATLÉTICO DE MADRID - MILÁN.
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is that a reliable source? and if so how would be able to get them chennels? thanx
no problem.
Yeah, I guess Iked already answered but yes, they are pretty relaible as far as schedule goes.
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