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Old 31-08-2006, 14:19   #16

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Guys, I am not saying that what you say doesn't make sense or is illogical or whatever.
I do claim however that you are basing your opinions on pretty volatile factors and assumptions - like the one that buying big names/expensive players, must NECESSARILY improve the team - and take it all for given ... and it is anything but
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:21   #17

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Then you might want to teach us how to compare!

Walk your talk! Compare this season to any other season which you think was "horrible".
I'm not the one who made the claim.
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:24   #18

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We all know pre season games don't mean anything Zlat
I know, but Inter's looser's mentality is more than obvious even now ... despite all the big names, the scent of imminent failure is still in the air.
Plus it's not taht we are better preped than them, actually it's the opposite since they were scheduled to play CL qualif. and we were not.
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:24   #19

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How does a name become big or a player becomes expensive?
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Ok I agree that it feels great when normal players emerge as big guns out of our club but there is nothing negative in buying already emerged players from outside.
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:35   #20

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Is it really that bad
Yes it is

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Rui Costa out - Gourcuff in:
Promising, already proven in the french league, young talent takes over for old over-the-top player.
Rui Costa came to Milan already a star@ Fiorentina. an up and comming player is a gamble. This is not to state that up and comming players don't blossom, just that many don't

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Shevchenko out - Ricardo Oliveira in:
A player who has been top goalscorer in Primera Division two seasons ago replaces a player that wasn't motivated for being in Milan anymore

Sheva just left us witha high league tally and was topscorer in the CL and he isn't motivated for us? Oh and Olivera never topped Liga. BUT RONALDO DID

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Vogel out - Brocchi in:
No changes here, an ok player replaces an ok player.
I think Vogel>>>>>>>>>>>>Brocchi.

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Amoroso out - Borriello in:
Promising young player ready for the next step of his career takes over for old over-the-top player
like Vogel Marcio not given proper opportunity. Can't say much for Boriello

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Stam out - Bonera and Favalli in:
Old injury-prone player replaced by old not so injury-prone player + a young player with great potential.
the only defender to ever keep ronaldinho quiet goes and you dare to compare them with favalli and Bonera

[quote]In addition to that Inzaghi have been doing well for the whole pre-season which hasn't happened for a while, so I think he will be better than ever this season. And also Ambrosini can almost be considered a new signing, as he is finally injury-free[/qoute]


Pippo is GREAT but he is 33 he can't go on forever!!!!

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And criticizing Berlusconi just because he doesn't use as much money as Abramovich on his club is ridiculous. No-one uses the amount of money that Abramovich does! All that Milan have done for us for the last 20 years or so we can thank Berlusconi for
I agree with that
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:41   #21

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the scent of imminent failure is still in the air.
I hope those words don't come back to haunt you Zlat
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:43   #22

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How does a name become big or a player becomes expensive?
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Ok I agree that it feels great when normal players emerge as big guns out of our club but there is nothing negative in buying already emerged players from outside.
I am not saying there's anything negative about it, I am just saying that the positives are ASSUMED rather than anything else.
actually, one negative is that clubs often end up wasting lots of money for players that don't live up to teh expectations.
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:43   #23

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Okay, I'll tell you what. I'll make it easy for you guys who claim this is the worst transfer season ever to prove it to me. Forget about 1927 or the other 99 or so years that none of you actually know anything about. Just explain to me exactly who Milan acquired in 1993 to replace the retiring Marco van Basten and how that transfer season was better than this one. That should be an easy one, right?
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:45   #24

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we have super utility man Favalli from Inter... the next ex-Inter player to become a top-class player for us... *cough*Seedorf*cough*Pirlo*
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:46   #25

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we have super utility man Favalli from Inter... the next ex-Inter player to become a top-class player for us... *cough*Seedorf*cough*Pirlo*
cough biggest Milan fan, Moratti cough
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:48   #26

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And what do any of those things have to do with whether or not this transfer season was better or worse? The fact is that you have no idea how this transfer season compares to, oh, about 100 past ones. You're just yelling "worst transfer season ever!!!!" because you think it sounds good.
rick im 22, my earliest memories are of me singing to Bruce springteen, and going to the san Siro when i was like 3 or something!... I dont know about the last 100 years, but i know for the last 18...

i dont want a arguement with u, so stop trying to be pushy! and as for name "worst transfer season ever" dont most journalists use words to make people pick up a paper, or read the report.....

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Brocchi isnt a replacement for Vogels, hes a a squad player than plays anywhere in the middle, plus on the wing!
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:53   #27

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I hope those words don't come back to haunt you Zlat
with Inter? yeah, right
don't worry, those losers are a safer bet than money in the bank ... actually, with you around, I am not sure that was a good example
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Old 31-08-2006, 14:59   #28

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rick im 22, my earliest memories are of me singing to Bruce springteen, and going to the san Siro when i was like 3 or something!... I dont know about the last 100 years, but i know for the last 18...

i dont want a arguement with u, so stop trying to be pushy! and as for name "worst transfer season ever" dont most journalists use words to make people pick up a paper, or read the report.....

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Brocchi isnt a replacement for Vogels, hes a a squad player than plays anywhere in the middle, plus on the wing!
That's fine. And I'm not trying to argue or be pushy. I'm just saying that "ever" is a long time and you probably should choose your words more carefully if you don't actually mean it.
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Old 31-08-2006, 15:07   #29

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Negatives: We did not reinforce the defence as well as we should have and I was hoping our management would bring in a solid goalkeeper (Buffon or Amelia).

Positives: We got Oliveira who is a mobile and prolific striker. Bonera is a fantastic acquisition. Gourcuff is a talent that we have banked on.

It all depends on how you look at it. When Shevchenko left I said to myself we will try to replace him with a big name to placate the fans. Looking around the options looked pretty thin (no pun intended re: Ronaldo).

Henry- would not leave Arsenal.
Ronaldinho- not a pure striker but one who would cancel out Sheva's departure heartache. Not leaving Barca (yet?).
Torres- Ok...I hate to say this here...but I think Torres is very overrated and overpriced. Just my opinion. And Spanish players fare poorly in Serie A.
Tevez- Admittedly, I saw him as a relatively good option for Sheva. But MSI seems to be a far-reaching thing so maybe, just maybe, this transfer was out of our reach?

So the management did the next best thing...get Oliveira. I have absolutely no problem with this move and if the guy scores 15+ goals in Serie A and about 6+ in Champions League I am sure you guys won't either.


I guess one of the biggest disappointments for me was Zambrotta going to Barca. I really felt that we should have clinched that signing but judging by his admission that he wanted Milan but Juve did not...it makes you wonder.

With that said guys...continuity is not sold in the transfer market and that is something we have. When you compare our record with Real's and Inter's it makes you think that we have maintained a solid core around which we build a team.

Of course, we would like to win something every year but that is unrealistic. The most realistic thing a team can hope for and deliver is to be competitive every year. For that we have to say Milan is probably in the top 5 of most competitive teams in Europe.

2003- CL
2004- Scudetto
2005- Runners-up CL and Serie A
2006- Runners-up in Serie A (well after the Moggipoli no) and SF in CL

That is an enviable record. What would Real, Inter or Man U give for that?

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Old 31-08-2006, 15:08   #30

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We brought Desailly in 93 and turned down Romario.
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