Calciopoli 2?

im not saying our team is fine but look how the dissalowed goals that were quiet legit have cost us so bad we would already be fourth if all our legit goals stood and look how Inter would be hauled back if there handouts were removed

Originally Posted by Kaka1899

im not saying our team is fine but look how the dissalowed goals that were quiet legit have cost us so bad we would already be fourth if all our legit goals stood and look how Inter would be hauled back if there handouts were removed

Champions of the world should play confidently enough that the results are not affected by referying decisions... IMHO

Originally Posted by forward

Champions of the world should play confidently enough that the results are not affected by referying decisions... IMHO

You sound just like Galliani

Originally Posted by forward

Champions of the world should play confidently enough that the results are not affected by referying decisions... IMHO

I cannot believe this statement!

I mean really...a ref is in the position to win or lose games for teams, hasnt the past experience with Moggi et al proven that?

No matter how good u are, (e.g. Inter v Juve, with Ronaldo´s vaild penalty appeal waved away, and Del Piero scoring the scudetto winning goal minutes later...) the ref is always in a position to influence the outcome...clear goals can always be disallowed (see Pippo´s "so called" offside goal vs Livorno)....non-existent penalties given, or clear cut pk appeals disregarded...(the 1st hand ball in the game vs Livorno)..

The ref is at times, unfortunately, the ultimate game decider.

They are the ultimate game decider but is it the case that it matters only if they favor one team but not others?

What I"m trying to say is: Referee A may make a mistake against team A but then make another mistake for team A the next game.

But of course, this is not saying that referee can then make mistakes. We know that the one game really matters..

Originally Posted by Kaka1899

You sound just like Galliani

If Galliani had that kind of thinking, he wouldn't sleep through the winter transfer season, IMHO again

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

I mean really...a ref is in the position to win or lose games for teams, hasnt the past experience with Moggi et al proven that?

In CL and other big games - yes, the referee can be decisive, although still not always...
In Serie A, I think Milan is capable of winning the game without questionable offside positions or handballs in the penalty area. Playing on the ground should just about do it.

call me stupid, but playing on the ground isnt one of Milan professions , i dont think any team can keep it on the ground

i dont think the Refs are giving Milan the handballs which they think they saw, but they are not sure of because of the Calciopoli.

but sometimes, they make too much mistakes that fans, coach, and Commentators cant just shut up about it

i think its the fact in a scenario we score goals and they are ruled out for "offside" and inter are almost handed penaltys and free kicks to try and get one in, look at the Inter Parma game..... Corradi rugby tackled by cordoba at the waist refs choice nothing given then in the 93rd min Couto heads it away and its a penalty, now your saying that a rugby tckle is legal but heading it sint?

Anyway, my opinion on this one hasn't changed -
Liverpool - Inter
Arsenal - Milan
will show who is who

I can only hope that Inter loses to L'pool, although i hate them (L'pool)

We should not be pointing the finger anywhere else other than to us. Losing to Empoli at HOME, losing to Atalanta, tieing Livorno (who inter is beating 2-0 at HT), the list of disappointing results/performances is a lot longer than the refs mistakes. We don't score goals so when one is disallowed we get our panties is a tangle and ***** and moan, while in reality we should be scoring 2 to 3 goals against 3/4 of serie A.