Winter Mercato

just another example of us being stupidly tight, we wont go for these players, and have to go for cheaper options.. What has happened the last 5 years? Braida has to go, if this is the case.. Look at the summer window, o disaster, and if he cant get deals done why the hell is he working for us?

The more and more players we lose out on, the more weaker we become..

Originally Posted by Warro Bantan

So, latest from Sky Sports indicates that Braida has returned with no Gago, no Higuian (or however the dude spells his name)...but some unheard of defender...with no European passport...

Is it me or does that sound sooooo stupid.. what are they doing.. I really think they have lost it.... Next they will be buying 1 legged football players from iceland.... or something ridiculous like that...


i thought the point of going was to get deals done, not go on a stupid holiday.. makes me want to scream!!!

Calm down now......doesn't mean if u go for a shopping spree u expect to get something that u want. If he believe that there are no potential replacement, then we better look somewhere else.
Don't expect to buy a crap players just for the sake of bring in new players.
We are Milan......our criteria of getting good players is harder than Real or inter

Originally Posted by humanTORCH

Calm down now......doesn't mean if u go for a shopping spree u expect to get something that u want. If he believe that there are no potential replacement, then we better look somewhere else.
Don't expect to buy a crap players just for the sake of bring in new players.
We are Milan......our criteria of getting good players is harder than Real or inter

humanTORCH, some years ago, I would agree with you. But not right now. I think that Higuain is a project. But Gago(for what I read) and Marcelo(I saw since it was 16yo) aren´t crap players.

To be fair with the R. Madrid. They were very bad in the hour of scout players in the near past. But since Mijatovic become the GM, the things are diferent there. Mijatovic was wise, hired Franco Baldini(ex- Roma), and this guy is doing a amazing jog for RM. The truth is(no matter how hard it hurts in the milanistas hearts), we are making a shameful job in the transference market today.

Just another example: We send Braida(late) to S. America to scout players, when Baldini already had a pre-agreement w/ players made 2 months behind...and in accordance with what I read, the Braida travel to SA is reason of joke, because how late it cames to SA

Our criteria of getting good players WAS harder...

I take this from Milan board in Xtratime. So, If the guy that posted there is member of MM, I apologize for to post here.
The member is: peive 17, and take a look at how ugly can be our situation...is in Italian but with Babel Fish you can have a glimpse.

This is posted by a poster called Walter in DM. This quy is the closest to a reliable source that I have found on the net. For instance he gave the news about Bonera a week before the news sites. He is also the one that first said that Braidas real target for Cafus replacement is Ilsinho of Sao Paolo a week ago. This is what he has to say about Braidas trip to SA:

Allora stanno venendo fuori delle storielle simpatiche riguardanti Braida e la societá nel loro peregrinare tra Brasile ed Argentina. Intanto l´obiettivo numero uno, quello piú reale e realistico era Ilsinho, del quale avevo giá parlato la settimana scorsa, anche se Cattani e ed i giornali ne hanno fatto cenno solo ieri. La cosa buffa é che in societá fossero convinti della sua cittadinanza portoghese. Quasi nel mettere nero su bianco, hanno scoperto che la certa cittadinanza portoghese era solo presunta, frutto della loro malata fantasia e della malainformazione. Quindi niente Ilsinho...
Ma il bello é accaduto in Argentina, dove hanno scoperto con due mesi di ritardo che i loro obbiettivi erano in pratica giá prenotati da Barca e Real. Poi sono tornati di nuovo in Brasile per seguire Lucas, ed anche lí ci hanno trovato il padrone. 5M di euro non bastavano piú, perché un´altra societá italiana aveva fatto pervenire un´offerta di 6. Indovinate un po´chi? Se avessero chiuso tre o quattro giorni prima avrebbero potuto prenderlo a quella cifra. Adesso si scatenerá un´asta con l´Inter ed indovinate cosa fará Galliani? Esattamente quello che fece con Ibrahimovic. Il posto per questa gente é il gerontocomio. E nei casi piú gravi, vedi Berlusconi, il padiglione di un manicomio dotato di camicia di forza e letti con stringhe. Ridicoli!

I dont know if I should laugh or .....
Forza Milan

The part of Argentine, and of Lucas Leiva(and another Italian team) shows how much clueless(and despaired) is Baida travels to SA...

Originally Posted by Graeme C

Is it me or does that sound sooooo stupid.. what are they doing.. I really think they have lost it.... Next they will be buying 1 legged football players from iceland.... or something ridiculous like that...


i thought the point of going was to get deals done, not go on a stupid holiday.. makes me want to scream!!!

They would of been better off scouting in space

I don't know why our team is always so misterious. They never confirm any interest in any player, never let us know what's going on.

One thing we must understand though is that we are in a messed up situation. If Carlo leaves at the end of the season, that might also mean the change of formation, which automatically means that we need players to fit the next coach's needs. I know that a good coach will adapt his tactics so they fit the players players available, but some of the coaches push the team to buy players so they can fit in his formation. So maybe that's why we look like we dont even know what we want at the moment.

First it seems like we are saving everything for Ronaldinho, then they promise a big signing in January, then they send Braida to sign a talent but he does nothing and I am sure not because the players don't want to come to Milan, but because Milan is holding back either on the offers or they can't make up their mind. Are we only looking for short term help (Jan-May) or are we looking for something for next season as well?

Very very confusing situation right now.

Originally Posted by nefremo

I don't know why our team is always so misterious. They never confirm any interest in any player, never let us know what's going on.

If you leak the information, then you are no longer in an advantageous situation. I mean, have you (plural) even heard of Kaka` that well and, if you do, to what extent are you (plural) excited about the transfer?

And, what's the outcome ?

Surely now that Real have brain washed Gago & Higuain, the time to buy other possible talents out there is right now when Real are busy completing deals. Kerlon, Lucas, Arouca are there, waiting to be snapped up. So what's Braida waiting for? We are far too hesitant in the market and when dealing with clubs, how many times does he need to see someone in action to make a deal? As soon as he was off the plane he should have gone straight to see agents of these guys and started negotiations, not swaning around for a few weeks watching games. Even in his interviews he doesn't come across like he tried very hard. No mention of how long he endeavoured in negotiations, more like he asked them if they wanted to join Real, they said yes and he gave up.

Surely Humantorch you can see that this was an opportunity to get some of the better players of tomorrow. So you go out there WITH the intention of bringing one of them back. None of these players were crap and we missed out because of inept people doing the negotiations. Why weren't negotiations started when they were out looking at Sobis? Why did Braida only go out there when it seemed apparent that Madrid were closing in on these players? To me this trip was an act of desperation, seems like we were once again 2 steps behind them and we were hoping to pick up some of their leftovers.


Even if a player wanted to come to Milan these days, i don't have much faith in Braida's ability to secure a transfer.

Definitely Milan's transfer policy is wrong. For some years players go to other clubs rather then Milan, even when they know they’re going in wrong direction. First it was Juve, now Inter. I can’t accept they didn’t want to play for Milan. I think Milan’s management fails to react promptly.
And, Milan spend incredible amount of money on young players and trainers, and still no one is promoted to first team.
So, what is wrong? Bad scouting or bad training?!
Or, maybe it is time for change in the management?!
I think, the time has come.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

Even if a player wanted to come to Milan these days, i don't have much faith in Braida's ability to secure a transfer.

Me 2, that is a major concern.. Braida must be like Gil from Simpsons when they are neogating deals... It is a joke, i mean anyone else in the world can lose there job if they dont perform.. it doesnt seem to apply to our management...

Being linked to a player, and going after a player is one thing.. Signing a player is another...

I can sort of guess why we've hesitated on this. Firstly, we're pretty limited as to who we can get, due to EU rules in Serie A. Now, we need to desperately address areas we're looking weak in, which RB is definately a key area (hence I'm not surprised we're linked with Ilsinho). Our hands are tied before we even start looking.

Next of all, it's pointless to buy a ton a young talent who may or may not succeed with us. We tried similar things when the classic generation was moving on, and it wasn't particularly successful. Therefore, rather than buying all of South America, we need to very carefully weed out the best for us. This means finding players who are not only talented, meeting our requirements technically, fitting the positions we require and fitting into Italian culture and the club.

Originally Posted by Graeme C

Me 2, that is a major concern.. Braida must be like Gil from Simpsons when they are neogating deals... It is a joke, i mean anyone else in the world can lose there job if they dont perform.. it doesnt seem to apply to our management...

Yeah, we really never had any good players in Milan. they are a constant failure.

Braida and Galliani know they job really well. Plus there are Leonardo and Cesare Maldini to help out. What we need to is to act FASTER and with more money....simply.

Well one thing is that all these players (Gago,Higuain....) were all over the papers with Real and we assumed that Braida is gonna go for one of them. Where in reality, I think he was probably going over there for someone else (ex:Ilsinho). He might have asked around about Gago's, Higuain's, Marcelo's availability and their willingness to come to Milan, but I think he was going over there for totally different players then these.