AC Milan vs Juventus (game & post-game comments)

Now ancelotti says he would like to join Roma! i think silvio / galliani blasted ancelotti in the dressing room.

this happened to capello when he was at Milan. Galliani told him "win the scudetto and then we'll sign a contract". capello replied "i'll win a scudetto and leave" and then he left for real madrid after he won the last scudetto with milan. i hope galliani didn't do the same to carlo.

Originally Posted by sehnsucht79

Nesta deserved a red card, Inzaghi slapped Thurams head and pushed him. Nothing. In these big games these small things are usually waved away. Not just against Juventus, just big games in Italy generally.

why did nesta deserve a red card?

and you're wrong about "small things" being waved away. juve just had zlatan suspended for three games because of something that happened in a "big game" against inter.

Originally Posted by sehnsucht79

It is sad to see that everytime Juventus plays even when they are admittedly the better team every insignificant detail had to tie with them and refereeing when if it was any other team the issue wouldnt matter. I was hoping Milanistas here would give their insight on the game and discuss the possible situations following the 3 matches ahead yet some are just plain whiny.

Yes, Serginho was brilliant, an immediate impact.

Juventus has a history of refs helping them. it's hard for people here not to keep that in mind while commenting on the game. if you have been watching italian soccer as long as some of us have, you'll know what we mean.

Originally Posted by Nadir

why did nesta deserve a red card?

and you're wrong about "small things" being waved away. juve just had zlatan suspended for three games because of something that happened in a "big game" against inter.



Juventus has a history of refs helping them. it's hard for people here not to keep that in mind while commenting on the game. if you have been watching italian soccer as long as some of us have, you'll know what we mean.

Some very fair points there. But sehnsucht's not entirely wrong in saying some of these things are not generally noted and made a big hoo ha out of. Last season a "Man U-Arsenal" like situation occured in this clash and it went unpunished when at Old Trafford a whole slew of players were given suspensions.

But to say Cafu went down dramatically is just contradicting your point. All these things are considered 'small' and Cafu going down like any player would have when his shirt is tugged like that is 'a dramatic dive'?

Like Jeff said Juve were good, no doubt. But you can't say Milan were bad. As usual, Juve were good in the second half the ugly way they could be, defensively. It's no wonder neutral fans look forward to something like Barca-Real more since it's so open and both sides get to play their attacking football. Like I said I'm still proud of Carletto and the boys. They did a hell of a job attacking against a solid Juve defence. Luck was just not on our side

I didnt see this match, so I wont comment overmuch on that aspect of the game, but will instead focus on the result.

The one thing I will note however, with regard to the 90+ minutes, is that once again, Collina has come in for major criticism and indeed, if he missed the call on Cafu´s shirt pull, and in as big a match as this is, then that is yet another reason why he should retire, and sooner rather than later.

There are two points that I would like to share my thoughts on:

1. The result: Milan 0, Juve 1....and three games remaining.

2. Ancelotti´s statement in a post match interview that he will not be rotating his team.

To the first point:
Milan had this scudetto to win, had it in our grasp, and we let it go, a moment of brilliance from Del Piero has taken away any chance of going ahead of Juve and being in a more relaxed state of mind for the upcoming matches...now we can only play to win, and hope for Juve to lose 2 games out of three...or draw at least two, something I fear will just not happen.

They (Juve) see the way clear now to go for their umpteenth scudetto, and will not fail at these last hurdles. There will be many here who will criticise me for saying this, but this was the moment IMO that we lost the scudetto race, but such is life, I would rather the UCL title, than the scudetto anyway.

On the second point:
Carlo has an extremely talented squad with which to work, and IMO has failedto make best use of his players. Dhorasso, though having an injury plagued season, should have featured in more games, giving valuable rest to Seedorf and Pirlo, who are key players for us, and at this point in the season, are not at their physical best, due to Carlo playing them in match after match after match...I wonder how we would have fared had both of those players been rested on occasion?

His statement that he will not rest any of his players for the next remaining matches is a signal to all that he is willing to risk the health of his first team, to chase a bird that he is too proud, or desperate to see has already flown.

Here is where the season on a whole balances precarioulsy on a knife´s edge...why risk Kaka or Sheva in a game vs Lecce or Udinese when we have the holy grail of the UCL title to chase? Indeed, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Nevertheless FORZA MIIIIIIIIIIILAN!

Yesterday I was at the stadium in the curva with Giovanni and Billy, the atmosphere was incredible even though we lost. I was having a lot of fun until the juve goal.
IMO Ancelotti made a wrong formation, Seedorf and Pirlo where and are out of form and our on form man where on the bench. In fact we did something when Serginho and Rui entered and why Ambrosini was left out?? another in form player!!.
Capello untilised the mininum that he had while Ancelotti no.

Now let's concentrate on the 25th May match and let juve win the league. We know that everyone wants the cup with big ears. NOI ANDIAMO AD INSTANBUL

This situation u r in guys the fatigue the drop is because of Carlo ,Whats the diffrence between Milan and Juve imo the bench u guys have a better bench therefor u can last longer but what did Carlo do ???.he decided to play with the same 11 for about 2 month ?? untill he reached the most important stage of the season with a tired squad it was really he's fault.

Originally Posted by Juventini

This situation u r in guys the fatigue the drop is because of Carlo ,Whats the diffrence between Milan and Juve imo the bench u guys have a better bench therefor u can last longer but what did Carlo do ???.he decided to play with the same 11 for about 2 month ?? untill he reached the most important stage of the season with a tired squad it was really he's fault.

Cant argue with you on that one.....

Yesterday as soon as I knew Milan lost to juve I felt that my heart is broken
and it was bleeding but I did my best to hide these feeling espacialy
to my Mom since here in America it was Mother day and I invited her to good restautant

any way back to game I think that milan tired from playing psv
was reason that we lost but I didn't got to see this game .as I
read the comment about this game I do blame ancelotti for using seedrof
in this game not rui and altho I'm big inzaghi fan Idon't think it was
wise for Ancelotti to play inzaghi after all these injury in this game
hard luck to Milan and I was wondering who can Juve scored in 20 minute
and we were not able to score any goal in other 65 minute and I do blame
collina by not giving us pentely but does Milan can score just from pentely

Nadir i see you as the only person with a level head in here who actually gives credit to juve, however i disagree with the referring being a problem. AC gets and got in that game plenty of calls go their way so i think the excellent job done by collina was not a problem. I also hear some people in here bashing Buffon. What did u expect him to do, its the biggest game for juve he wanted to intimidate the best he could and he was happy for the win. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves and AC and just try and hope that they can atleast take it to penalties with Liverpool

Yesterday Milan ended a succesful run of not being beat vs. fellow "big" serie A teams. I can't think of the last time Juve, Inter, or Roma managed to beat them. Sometimes you get unlucky in these matches and let's leave it at that. Finish the season strong, in good health and ready for Istanbull. You never know what can still happen in the final 3 matches.

forza milan

Originally Posted by Playa_Pimp

Nadir i see you as the only person with a level head in here who actually gives credit to juve, however i disagree with the referring being a problem. AC gets and got in that game plenty of calls go their way so i think the excellent job done by collina was not a problem. I also hear some people in here bashing Buffon. What did u expect him to do, its the biggest game for juve he wanted to intimidate the best he could and he was happy for the win. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves and AC and just try and hope that they can atleast take it to penalties with Liverpool

no one here do not give credit to juve, you pimphead.

And Nadir, I feel sorried you got dragged by the pimphead. Doesn't it feel awful when an idiot here trying to find an ally?

As I've said before , and you guys didnt trust me, carlo got it all wrong agian... 11 players cant play 10 matches in a row! Juve deserved victory and now we need to put some fresh legs in for lecce and palermo, we can still win those 2 games with likes of serginho, rui, pippo, kaladze...
If juve wins this 2 games than its all over, if someone,somehoe, stops them we have a chance in last round. Actually, we had our chance on sunday but carlo f...ed up. Now berlusconi and galliani need to make some smart moves at the end of the season, its not over yet, we need to fight and win the CL. But, who ever said that ancelotti got 100% out of milan's squad - is wrong!!
Capello outclased him and this is a really big problem, juve had a medium team and will win the title...it p...es me off!!!

Originally Posted by Playa_Pimp

Hey come on guys lets be honest with ourselves, the better team won. Milan played conservative and that bucycle kick by Del Peiro was sheer class, that is why he is Italia's golden boy. Serghino was the only one creative enough to cause a stir for milan but one player cannot do it alone, especially when the strikers are dormant. As far as Crespo goes, maybe you guys haven't heard but Chelsea is bringing him back from his loan. He does not want to go and his mental state was not in this game. Pippo was humours and had his chance but even Juve's defence outplayed that of the over priced milano side (Zambrotta's save on Pippo should be sufficient proof)

This sounds suspiciously like Pulsar. Could he have changed teams again?

Yes Jeff good job pimphead, your mom knows what this pimp's head is all about, believe that. And with this crying and whining going on, come on ppl its over, we dont deserve anything this year, lets be happy with what we get