Winter Mercato

the days of buying players savicevic, and weah have gone.. we dont seem to spend the cash to get players like that anymore.. We have to face it, Real and Chelsea have ranked the price of players up (killed the transfer market), if we want to buy decent players we cant pay peanuts all the time..

Jim if you noticed..I DID say this summer was horrible. We had to rush transfers and ended up overspending for Oliveira who is not a bad player..but due to time constraints Betis took advantage of our need for a striker and jacked his value up. You have to remember that we WERE facing the realistic possibility of ending up in Serie B..so our strategy had to be changed drastically(i.e. getting Favalli..saving money in order to try to keep our stars at the club) Then we were allowed to get back into Serie A..but we didn't know if we were in Champions League. That also set us back because revenue from Champions League brings a lot of funds into the club. Next summer I hope will be a summer less filled with contreversy than the one that just left us. Then we can REALLY rate our management.

Originally Posted by Graeme C

the days of buying players savicevic, and weah have gone.. we dont seem to spend the cash to get players like that anymore.. We have to face it, Real and Chelsea have ranked the price of players up (killed the transfer market), if we want to buy decent players we cant pay peanuts all the time..

We can very well go up and by like them, the real question is whether Berlusconi wants to do that... Otherwise we can always hope for some more succesful "Kaka" kind of deals. Many consider him our teams best player and we got him for €10M...

Originally Posted by marcovb

MILANO - Se negli ultimi giorni Gonzalo Higuain pareva certo che si accasasse al Real Madrid ora l'affare non è più così certo. Infatti il Milan ha formulato un'offerta di 14 milioni di euro al River Plate, mentre il Real Madrid che sembrava in vantaggio è ancora fermo a 10. La dirigenza argentina starebbe così cercando di convincere Higuain ad andare al Milan per ottenere il maggior guadagno. Intanto restano tra gli obiettivi rossoneri anche Amelia e Ilsinho.


Milan has made an offer of 14mil for Higuain

wasaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa marcovb! Please give me the link to this news.

http://www.calciomercato.it/dettagli...a=2&hdnId=5313

Mystik, when the initial verdicts came out, it must have been sometimes in July, and we were the only team to be initially left in Serie A. Juve I believe was down to C, while Lazio and Fiorentina were down to B. Maybe we were initially banned from Europe, but not serie A, therefore, we had still the sky tv revenue stream. There are a lot of players who make a tremendous impact that are bought every yr for 6-10 mill euros. Even in the worst case scenario, we would have had no europe this yr, but we still would have been in A, and would have had the 45 million from sheva's sale to buy 4-5 players. Oliveira we overpaid for 2 reasons. 1) to supposedly get to ronaldinho, 2) as someone mentioned, because it was late, and we had struck out with ronaldo, sobis, suazo, and possibly even iaquinta. Oliveira is still young enought to have patience with, but while it takes most players at least half to a full season to adjust to Italy, we were not equipped for that luxury since our other 2 fwds are very similar and are inside the 18 players, not roamers or deep forwards. As most other fans here, i criticize management while still making excuses for them (weird balance!!!), but in the end, their end goal is to make sure the coach has at his disposal the right players to win. In all honesty, I don't think we can say galliani and co. did that this yr. I believe that successful management is planning ahead, meaning that galliani should have had plan A, B, and C in place already last yr. The team was getting older, and it's not as if we lacked creative players in order to fantasize about ronaldinho. They knew the defense was aging, that our two brazilian wingers were in their mid 30s, that a player of Gattuso's energy does slown down in his late 20s, and that as great as pirlo is, he is a defensive liability. We also knew that there was a good chance rui would go back home, and that we needed a cover for kaka, and though gourcuff was a good buy, he is not a 10. These are not so grave of problems, I wish I had these problems in everyday life, as they can be rectified with a couple of shrewd buys. However, management should start this course of action soon.

Originally Posted by Graeme C

Before thes scandal and trial. Moggy was being linked to us... Maybe Belusconi isnt a 100% happy with the management..

well then why isn't he doing anything.

if anything this farce in the summer was the best chance to get rid of galliani. nothing happend so far so i assume he can't be too unhappy with the situation.


i don't know if it is true but it seems a bit strange to me why we should try to outbid real for higuain (who is very young and quite unproven) but did nothing to stop marcelo from going to spain.

yes media says he wanted madrid but i think if we reached a consensus with the club the kid would have joined us too.

i hope we get us some reinforcements in january. we need much better flanks (rb, lb) and more creativity in attack (am, secunda punta). as long as the new players provide that i don't care about names.

edit: forgot that before: we really should get a new second keeper in january, kalac is simpy not up to the task. maybe he is still a ok keeper but he can't deal with coming in for only one game.

Originally Posted by Mystik

Next summer I hope will be a summer less filled with contreversy than the one that just left us. Then we can REALLY rate our management.

I hope you are right

Kris you've misinterpreted my post. I wasn't questioning anything to do with the list players mentioned (weahs, van bastens, bobans, etc), indeed why would i?

The point i was making is that we will never know if we have the next generation of bobans, savicevics, baresis, etc if we never take risks or calculated risks on the likes of marcelo, higuain, lucas, gago and players of that ilk.

Hope i made myself clearer this time.

Originally Posted by Jim_UK

I hope you are right

Kris you've misinterpreted my post. I wasn't questioning anything to do with the list players mentioned (weahs, van bastens, bobans, etc), indeed why would i?

The point i was making is that we will never know if we have the next generation of bobans, savicevics, baresis, etc if we never take risks or calculated risks on the likes of marcelo, higuain, lucas, gago and players of that ilk.

Hope i made myself clearer this time.

The Weah's & Savicevic's u mentioned though are a world apart in terms of experience to the youngsters been mentioned from SA. They were already winners, with big game, and big club mentality's and were joining a club which was the best in the world at the time. I agree we have to take risks, but not with our entire market though. one or 2 younger players, and some exp players are needed, butn ot experienced ala Favalli.

Carlo has meanwhile (channel4.com) rubbished the reported interest by Ameila by re-stating who our keepers are...this for me, was the WORST thing he could have done...I understand wanting to give ur keepers some confidence...but if we let Amelia go, we better have Buffon, and Buffons younger clone lined up for May-June 2K7.

Sheesh!

don't worry too much Warro... i believe Carlo (or the board in general) wants Amelia for next season... not in the Jan TW... reports indicate that Milan is likely to buy some Italian GK (Sorrentino?) and have a part exchange ready for Livorno in exchange for Amelia... with reports that Abbiati is missin' Milan on the horizon... maybe Amelia & Abbiati would fight it out for the GK spot next season... looks like Dida's days is numbered accordin' to all these rumours...

Originally Posted by zZ[-_-]Zz

don't worry too much Warro... i believe Carlo (or the board in general) wants Amelia for next season... not in the Jan TW... reports indicate that Milan is likely to buy some Italian GK (Sorrentino?) and have a part exchange ready for Livorno in exchange for Amelia... with reports that Abbiati is missin' Milan on the horizon... maybe Amelia & Abbiati would fight it out for the GK spot next season... looks like Dida's days is numbered accordin' to all these rumours...

its more likely that abbiati would be 1st choice and copolla is 2nd choice. Milan should prioritise the outfield 1st - yes every position needs tweaking and then maybe they can get amelia. Too me a new GK at this point is not a priority right now

Well when you consider the fact that Dida is most likely going to be leaving next summer..I think it SHOULD be a priority. Not for January of course..but to at least secure his(Amelia..Buffon..whoever)'s services for the summer.

yeah that would be a very wise thing to do Dida is asking more money per season than what Buffon gets.. I dont mind either Amelia or Buffon, just Amelia wouldnt be as expensive...

on Channel 4 there are reports of Antonio Di Natale, Amelia, Ryan Babel and Gonzalo Higuain although River plate have had a higher offer for him that what real madrid have offered but they wont say how much has been offered for him.