Milan-Catania 30/09/2007

Everyone(if not, 90%)in this room know what flaws our team has.Sorry,Nothing can't be done before wintermarket.We can only rely on the cards we have right now.And I don't question our players motivation for win in such situation.Just the concern for match wedensday bother them gear up full speed.

Things are not going our way in so busy a schedule.We shall try more new elements in our lineups. Few changes(keep most starters on field)yield only draws at home with teams like catania. Being down to underwears,I don't see why we need to put the whole attackline in this game.

The thing is after the winter market we SHOULD have Ronaldo and Pato. So our attack should be alright come January 1st. The real issue is what we do to fix our attack till then. Kaka plays his best behind two strikers but we only have 3 available strikers(counting Willy). IMO we should give Willy a go. That can't turn out too bad. Our offense can't get too much worse anyway.

This was inevitable. We are paying for the mistakes made during the summer transfer window. We still have one of the best starting 11's in the world, but we are paying for a severe lack of squad depth:

1) Having 3 strikers---1 injured, 1 in his twilight days at 34, another young and lacking confidence----how on earth are we supposed to score on a regular basis. I'd like to see the stats---how many goals have our "strikers" scored in the league this year? Then the management has the guts to say that they are happy with our striking options despite letting Oliveira go---if that was the case, why did we try for Suazo?

2) We need to know when to "let go" of players and move on. Cafu, Serginho have been great servants of our club, but i think their time is up. they are no longer playing at the level that we require, and for the good of the club and for our future, we should be getting some promising youngsters to back up our starters.

3) We still dont have a sub for Pirlo. managment know this. I thought Vogel and Dhorasoo both did a pretty good job of subbing Pirlo, yet both were sold and no other replacments bought. When Pirlo has a bad day, Milan usually lose.

4) Carlo needs to start having some courage. He needs to start benching some established first teamers, and play our youngsters. Bench Seedorf (a rest will do him good before our UCL games) and play Gourcuff---let's see what he can do on a REGULAR basis.

Management has to start taking some responsiblity. If they want to take credit for us winning trophies, then they better shoulder the blame when things like this happen.

*This was inevitable. We are paying for the mistakes made during the summer transfer window. We still have one of the best starting 11's in the world, but we are paying for a severe lack of squad depth:

1) Having 3 strikers---1 injured, 1 in his twilight days at 34, another young and lacking confidence----how on earth are we supposed to score on a regular basis. I'd like to see the stats---how many goals have our "strikers" scored in the league this year? Then the management has the guts to say that they are happy with our striking options despite letting Oliveira go---if that was the case, why did we try for Suazo?

2) We need to know when to "let go" of players and move on. Cafu, Serginho have been great servants of our club, but i think their time is up. they are no longer playing at the level that we require, and for the good of the club and for our future, we should be getting some promising youngsters to back up our starters.

3) We still dont have a sub for Pirlo. managment know this. I thought Vogel and Dhorasoo both did a pretty good job of subbing Pirlo, yet both were sold and no other replacments bought. When Pirlo has a bad day, Milan usually lose.

4) Carlo needs to start having some courage. He needs to start benching some established first teamers, and play our youngsters. Bench Seedorf (a rest will do him good before our UCL games) and play Gourcuff---let's see what he can do on a REGULAR basis.

Management has to start taking some responsiblity. If they want to take credit for us winning trophies, then they better shoulder the blame when things like this happen.*

you almost made me cry man!!!!!

I AGREE WITH YOU , and it feels like last year but i dont think we will win the champions league and your right we have a great starting eleven but we need youngsters and to let go of the oldies, lets hope pato plays well, after watching this weeks game all we need is a fresh player ie pato or another young midfielder as well as gourcuff and who knows! when i saw inzaghi and gila playing together i nearly laughed it will never work our strikers provided no options up front and if they are not firing how can we play 3 defensive midfielders!

Originally Posted by Milany

*This was inevitable. We are paying for the mistakes made during the summer transfer window. We still have one of the best starting 11's in the world, but we are paying for a severe lack of squad depth:

1) Having 3 strikers---1 injured, 1 in his twilight days at 34, another young and lacking confidence----how on earth are we supposed to score on a regular basis. I'd like to see the stats---how many goals have our "strikers" scored in the league this year? Then the management has the guts to say that they are happy with our striking options despite letting Oliveira go---if that was the case, why did we try for Suazo?

2) We need to know when to "let go" of players and move on. Cafu, Serginho have been great servants of our club, but i think their time is up. they are no longer playing at the level that we require, and for the good of the club and for our future, we should be getting some promising youngsters to back up our starters.

3) We still dont have a sub for Pirlo. managment know this. I thought Vogel and Dhorasoo both did a pretty good job of subbing Pirlo, yet both were sold and no other replacments bought. When Pirlo has a bad day, Milan usually lose.

4) Carlo needs to start having some courage. He needs to start benching some established first teamers, and play our youngsters. Bench Seedorf (a rest will do him good before our UCL games) and play Gourcuff---let's see what he can do on a REGULAR basis.

Management has to start taking some responsiblity. If they want to take credit for us winning trophies, then they better shoulder the blame when things like this happen.*

you almost made me cry man!!!!!

hahah very funny and very true! everyone hated him last year, i was a fan BUT he didnt score so i was happy for him to leave as he didnt look confident

p.s we didnt get suazo but he hasnt scored for inter in serie a yet!

Originally Posted by Tony29.

The best proof of Milan's crisis is that people are asking for Ricardo Oliveira.
The man scored smthg like 2 goals from 70 shots and you all wanted him out of Milan.
You must be really really desperate to ask for his comeback.

Jesus! I agree again! this is the smartest forum surely management have to think the same as we do! favalli was so ****! bring grimi back in january and get rid of the dead wood!

Originally Posted by peters

im just mad because we dont try anything else in formation. I mean, playing willy or gorky seems to be 'too risky' but its ok to start with cafu and favalli - loosing points anyway? Like i said to my friends, if there were young boys thirsty for win i could stand behind thm even if they drop points. But when u have players walking up and down the field is just kind of hard to even watch it...

[quote=Milany]*This was inevitable. We are paying for the mistakes made during the summer transfer window. We still have one of the best starting 11's in the world, but we are paying for a severe lack of squad depth:

1) Having 3 strikers---1 injured, 1 in his twilight days at 34, another young and lacking confidence----how on earth are we supposed to score on a regular basis. I'd like to see the stats---how many goals have our "strikers" scored in the league this year? Then the management has the guts to say that they are happy with our striking options despite letting Oliveira go---if that was the case, why did we try for Suazo?

2) We need to know when to "let go" of players and move on. Cafu, Serginho have been great servants of our club, but i think their time is up. they are no longer playing at the level that we require, and for the good of the club and for our future, we should be getting some promising youngsters to back up our starters.

3) We still dont have a sub for Pirlo. managment know this. I thought Vogel and Dhorasoo both did a pretty good job of subbing Pirlo, yet both were sold and no other replacments bought. When Pirlo has a bad day, Milan usually lose.

4) Carlo needs to start having some courage. He needs to start benching some established first teamers, and play our youngsters. Bench Seedorf (a rest will do him good before our UCL games) and play Gourcuff---let's see what he can do on a REGULAR basis.

Management has to start taking some responsiblity. If they want to take credit for us winning trophies, then they better shoulder the blame when things like this happen.*

you almost made me cry man!!!!![/QUOTE]

LOL.....Are those tears of joy after reading such a splendid post , or tears of despair for the reality facing our beloved team?

OK, at first I thought I was seeing double for a minute, then I realized, Milany, rt9, you need to quote properly.

Originally Posted by dru

Becuase Milan should be in your blood if you;re a true fan and when your blood is sick you don't throw it away you fix it and hope it gets better.

When your blood is sick you get a transfusion, replacing the old sick blood with new healthy blood!

Originally Posted by dru

all we need is a good creative striker to play for us to partner Gila and we're cool.

But we knew this in the summer and didn't do anything about it. It's not something we can fix until January.

Originally Posted by dru

Hate to say this but take a lesson from the [email protected]'ve not won anything in years and they stand firmly behind their team!

It's not about standing behind the team, we all do that. It's about certain people waking up and realising mistakes have been made and better transfer policies need to be implemented ... and should have been implemented many seasons ago.

The thing with Inter is that they'll always fix some problems with their team as they buy about a dozen players every summer. If you throw enough sh*t at a wall, some of it will stick!

We can't solve many of our problems if we only buy a couple of players every year, especially if they're ones that don't improve the squad at all.

Inter have wised up the last couple of seasons and have actually signed players that make the difference. This is where we have stumbled. Letting Ibra and crespo go to inter was a huge mistake.. The have width, creativity and no problem scoring.

Atm i cant really see Ancelotti being with us next winter. He is being asked miracles with the current squad. But like ive said before, i dont blame him, i blame Galliani...

[quote=rt9]

Originally Posted by Milany

1) Having 3 strikers---1 injured, 1 in his twilight days at 34, another young and lacking confidence----how on earth are we supposed to score on a regular basis. I'd like to see the stats---how many goals have our "strikers" scored in the league this year? Then the management has the guts to say that they are happy with our striking options despite letting Oliveira go---if that was the case, why did we try for Suazo?

I support letting Oliviera go, we wouldnt have got Pato if not. But then other EU strikers were available and the management made the wrong choice.

Originally Posted by Mehdi

Relegation was the best thing that happened to Juve, they got rid of most of the dead wood - Emerson, Thuram and Cannavaro and replaced most of them with exciting young players

Yeah ? Then i wish you to get relegated so the best things will start happening to you

No Mehdi, relegation is the worst thing that can happen to a club. You lose CL, you lose 1/4 of a billion, you lose quality players.
I do get your point though. There are certain positive aspects, namely- giving chances to youth products, team unity etc, but the negative aspects are surpasing the positive ones.

Juve did get rid of the "old wood" as you call them, but imo, Moggi would have already got rid of at least 2 of Canna, Thuram and Emerson and he would have replaced them with much better players than Almiron, Criscito or Andrade are.
But what about losing the other players ?
A pearl such as Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Goal machine and top assist man of last year - Adrian Mutu
Imo still the best full back - Gianluca Zambrotta
Imo still the best DM - Patrick Vieira
What's the good thing in losing them ?

If you get relegated it won't be the best thing that happened to Milan. Yeah, you'll get rid of Cafu, Favalli, Serginho, Simic and few more but you can count on losing Kaka, Ronaldo, Nesta and maybe even Pirlo and Gattuso.
You think your youth players Pozzi, Marzoratti, Di Genarro and Aubameyang can replace them ?
You think Milan fans can live 2/3/4 years without CL ?

You want a wake-up call for Berlu but it can be done without a shock called relegation, even without missing out on CL.
4th place in serie A and early CL elimination would be enough.

[quote=rt9]

Originally Posted by Milany

*This was inevitable. We are paying for the mistakes made during the summer transfer window. We still have one of the best starting 11's in the world, but we are paying for a severe lack of squad depth:

1) Having 3 strikers---1 injured, 1 in his twilight days at 34, another young and lacking confidence----how on earth are we supposed to score on a regular basis. I'd like to see the stats---how many goals have our "strikers" scored in the league this year? Then the management has the guts to say that they are happy with our striking options despite letting Oliveira go---if that was the case, why did we try for Suazo?

2) We need to know when to "let go" of players and move on. Cafu, Serginho have been great servants of our club, but i think their time is up. they are no longer playing at the level that we require, and for the good of the club and for our future, we should be getting some promising youngsters to back up our starters.

3) We still dont have a sub for Pirlo. managment know this. I thought Vogel and Dhorasoo both did a pretty good job of subbing Pirlo, yet both were sold and no other replacments bought. When Pirlo has a bad day, Milan usually lose.

4) Carlo needs to start having some courage. He needs to start benching some established first teamers, and play our youngsters. Bench Seedorf (a rest will do him good before our UCL games) and play Gourcuff---let's see what he can do on a REGULAR basis.

Management has to start taking some responsiblity. If they want to take credit for us winning trophies, then they better shoulder the blame when things like this happen.*

you almost made me cry man!!!!![/QUOTE]

LOL.....Are those tears of joy after reading such a splendid post , or tears of despair for the reality facing our beloved team?

A bit of both man.

BTW:- BMWTaylor is that good enough for ya

any way FORZA MILAN

holla both of yall.

This is not the Milan spirit!!! We lost a couple points!! big deal!!

Superman- (aka Ronaldo aka the greatest player ever ) is comming back and we are going to strike fear into the hearts of all our opponents.

Dida- the world's best shot stopper is going to fix the leaks at the back

Maldini- the greatest defender of all time is going to rape all strikers...including Ibra WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF KY JELLY

Kaka -the best player in the worls is going to live up to his name this season

Pirlo - undoubtyedly the most accurate kicker of the ball is going to show the world what a true mastermind (read evil genius) can do

Seedorf- would show his ability as the most versatile midfielder on any football pitch anywhere in the world

Gattuso - is going to pick up a few yellow cards well

Ambro - is going to re-define the term utility midfielder when his goals and assists porve to be crucial when the chips are down

Pato- our young assassain looks to learn the black magic that Ronaldo and Kaka work on defences...but with a twist..

SUPER PIPPO - is going to get even skinnier after he pulls more crucial goals out of his @$$

Bonera - is going to have us with our mouths wide open as he blossoms into the next Costacurta

Nesta- the worlds best defender is going to lift trophys till his arms get weak

Carlertto Ancelotti - THE BEST COACH IN EUROPE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO QUITE SMOKING AFTER THIS SEASON (HOWEVER WARRO WILL STILL BE PROVIDING HIS 'HERBAL MEDICATION')

Berlu - the best owner in the world is finally going to feel sorry for us and get us the reinforcements that we need (i.e. Alves/ Rafinha, Quaresma and Aguero) and help us with out spring cleaning (see last point )

Gila .....er.....er........ nice hair