AC Milan vs Manchester United: 17 Feb

what are the chances of Pato, Seedorf, Zambrotta making it? Who will be our LB, Janku or Antonini?

7 days left until dooms day.

Originally Posted by hitmannq8

what are the chances of Pato, Seedorf, Zambrotta making it? Who will be our LB, Janku or Antonini?

7 days left until dooms day.

I saw yesterday on Milan Chanel Antonini playing with the ball..so I`m sure he will be ready in a week. So most probably he will get the nod.

Also Mancini will play against Roma in place of Pato..which mean that if he misses the CL game than most probably we will see Abate/Becks in the flank against Man UTD...as I dont see Leo experimenting with the line up for a very important game.

Originally Posted by OCmilano

I dont know why you guys think were going to lose in OT? If we play at least as good as we did last time and with Abbiati on goal were winning this game. I dont know the score though. Just winning is the part i know.

OCmilano friend, I like your optimism & enthusiasm, but lets just face it. Leo sucks when he picks B22 ahead of H11 & I9. Plus No Zambro, no Seedorf & specially no Pato means ACM is far far away from the best 11. Also I don't have trust in Abate when it comes to defending & LB spot has been a disaster for ACM this season. Also considering the fact that Leo HATES Flamini as much as he hates H11, so without F84 midfield will be weak again. Pirlo is hot & cold. Beckham should really quit football & start modeling on regular basis. Rino is in not-so-good form & Ambro is showing signs of tiredness. All this plus a goal-miss machine B22 is not good enough to over turn this BIG deficit of 3 away goals. The only chance ACM has in the absence of P7 is to play with 2 strikers, i.e H11 + B22 with Ronnie showing his magic. But I am sure that Leo will not include H11 (& Flamini) & just for the sake of pleasing media & English photographers, he will start with Beckham on the right. That will be the end for me even before the kick off.

In simpler words, it really hurts, but ACM is out of UCL 2010

Originally Posted by M.O.I.

your "favourite obsession" kjh was more than dissapointing,for me he proved leo right that night(for choosing bori all season long),not only for the missed chances,but he did not do anything right at all(in contast to boriello who even if he doesnt score that much,he contributes a lot helping dinho and pato being in touch with the box)..and of course the entrance of favalli changed all leo's tactics.

Nobody complained about Flippo Inzaghi for his lack of creative work for all these years. Similarly Crespo didn't do much in creative sense for us, but still no one called him a bad player. So whey KJH is a considered bad or disappointing player? Even KJH haters know that if gets a genuine regular spot in the team, he will score more goals than Borriello for sure. ACM play with 4 creative players excluding Ambro (who is not a bad creative player himself), so why H11 has to create things? His job is to finish things just like Trezeguet, Raul, Crespo, Inzaghi, van Nistelrooy & Morientes in the past

ACM played best when we had $hevchenko + Inzaghi strike partnership with Kaka. Now we have similar kind of player again, so why not go use them in the rite way?

2003-2006

........$hevchenko........Inzaghi............
.....................Kaka/Rui......................
........Seedorf...............Gattuso...........
......................Pirlo............................

Now

.............Pato............Huntelaar............
....................Ronaldinho......................
........Seedorf...............Flamini..............
......................Pirlo.............................

Its not a rocket science imo

Originally Posted by OCmilano

with Abbiati on goal were winning this game.

Don't be so sure. And even if we do there's no guarantee we'll advance.

Without Pato, Seedorf; let us imagine the fight.

1 Dino will be freezed by 2-3 MU players. He may create the opportunities but
not much. Maybe, around 3 golden magic passes is the limit.
2 Beckham steps in and cross the ball, however, those cross is ineffective since we don't have players like Van Nistelrooy. No matter Hunter, B22 or In , they will hardly to touch the ball and creates little threats.
3 Pirlo steps in as the playmaker, however, the situation does not improve much. The attacks ends in Pirlo's long shootings.

In this situation, Flamini should come to breakthrough the defense of
MU. And Flamini may long shoot too.

The condition is really no good to play as a guest but we still have chance.

Guys we had more shots on goal in the first game and we played wonderful football until Antonini had to leave the game.

And they made all 3 chance they got. I would understand all of you being so down and out if manu crushed us and we looked like a seria c team but they made the chance they had and we didnt but we sure did create a ton of chances. Have some ****ing ballz, Go reach down and grab them and say im a man and from this moment on im not going to cry about losing a game that ManU should worrry much more than us about.

We have nothing to lose, we attack if were down 1-0 we attack even harder. manu is the one who has to worry. If we score a first goal quickly again they will consentrate on defense to stop at all cost the other goal to come, you think with all this worry they are going to create anything?

When they came to Milan they did what they wanted to they scored that first goal and after they relaxed more even if it ended 2-1 for us they would have been veryyyyyyyyy happy, so im hoping for that first goal and let those mf's worrry about defending us the rest of the night.


ballz my friends ballz grow them today. (hair not included)

Actually, I have a strange feeling about Abbiati/Dida.

I am hoping/expecting that Abbiati will start as Dida sucked against Man United in the first leg, so Abbiati should get the nod. However, I don't know whether you would agree with me on this as it might be just me, but it seems that every time Dida fvcked up in a big game, he always redeemed himself perfectly. Take 2007, one horrible game at SS against Bayern, then heavenly performance in the second leg which sailed us through; Another horrible game at OT against ManU, then a decent game (he didn't need to be great for that game, as we overwhelmed ManU, but Dida made NO mistake) that sent us to the final. Then he was horrible again against Liverpool, but we were just lucky enough. There seemed to be a pattern, so I had a feeling that if Dida played at OT, he might just redeem himself perfectly and we might have a chance, but we might never be able to find out if he didn't play.

What the hell, I am so confused right now.

^^ Dida did not quite redeem himself after that didaster of epic proportions against Real Merda.

Vivardo, I think Dida played really well exactly after that episode.

Seems like Zambrotta will play at OT. Maybe at Roma too.

-------------Abbiati
--------Nesta----Thiago Silva
Abate------------------------Zambrotta
-----------Pirlo----Ambro
---------------Seedorf
Beckham
---------------------------Ronaldinho
---------------Borriello


That's how I would play at OT. If no Seedorf, then we switch to a 4312 with a mid 3 of Beckham, Pirlo, Ambro with Ronnie as a trequartista behind Huntelaar and Borri.

Beckham offers nothing now nothing. He is slow bad on the ball he can never beat his man Im not expecting him to sprint past 2 and 3 defenders but he can never EEEEEEVER beat anyone his crosses arn't creating much he always comes back inside when he gets the ball and slows everything down , the game will pass him by I don't know if he is right for us now . Lets be honest even when he was 27 he was alway's overatted as most english players are and now 7 years later the fact he is playing for Milan against Man Utd in 2010 in the Champions League is not good enough. There is no way he would get near the starting team of Madrid ,Barca , Man Utd , Aresnal , Inter he is too slow and too limited at 34 and if he starts it will be the same as the last 9 games he has played in NOTHING. I know some will say he is a great passer he crosses his assist against man utd (which was down to a ridiculous clearence) but the fact is he is slow one dimentional not creative and at 34 is an awful decision to start him on WED.

Originally Posted by Jeff

Vivardo, I think Dida played really well exactly after that episode.

I think so too.

Originally Posted by vivardo

^^ Dida did not quite redeem himself after that didaster of epic proportions against Real Merda.

who first invented that term? damn, so funny.

HISTORY NEEDS A NEW STORY
winning by two clear goals is not the only option... it is only the minimum amount of goals we can score without conceiving... This we can do... 3:0 at half time is good for us... we can end up winning 4:3 or 5:4... Remember that you saw it here first!!! believe

Some of you in this forum seem to be forgetting the reality of the game called football...
Setting out the players on paper and comparing which team is stronger theoretically does not equate to practicality!!!! many years of experience and supporting Milan have thought me that...

some of you see this match as our dooms day and all that crap about Pato's injury we cant make it... PURE BULL DROPPINGS!!! some of us can hide and protect of feelings about disappointment buy expecting the worst and hope for the miracle win... my word to you all is "you have no cojones"... behaving like conos...

I'm not optimistic about our chances anymore.

Pato is injured and will surely miss and he's the only one who can score the goals regularly, let's face it, and Inzaghi will not start. Furthermore, Antonini, Zambrotta and Seedorf are all questionable. If Leonardo starts with only Borriello/Huntelaar upfront, that's game over. We need two REAL strikers upfront if we want to score (at least) two goals. I'm not sure whether Beckham should start anyway. It's a fact that we can't use our potential on set pieces without him, but he isn't in good form now. I'm not as half as convinced in 3 man midfield with Beckham because it limits Pirlo's movement upfront and I'm less convinced in Ronaldinho's ability to produce when he gets in the middle. But, it would be even worse to play two DMs beside Pirlo, because we are two goals down. We must start with two midfielders who offer something upfront and Beckham doesn't offer anything upfront except crosses. I don't know, the situation is complicated, it will be very hard for Leonardo to find the right formula. I think that availability of Seedorf, Zambrotta and Antonini will be crucial, and even we all three ready, it will be very hard.