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I would guess it's net pay but not 100% sure ... it would be way too little to be gross (even if you take Sheva's salary in his last year, which was ~6 mil, I think).

Maybe contracts are negotiated with taxes in mind and the sums mentioned are the nest amount ... just a guess really.

I for one doubt Milan would have a chance with Dinho with only 5 mil net pay per season (assuming that 10 mil was gross pay) given that now at Barca he is getting more than that and it is namely the dif negotiations for his new contract with barca (Dinho asking for 12 reportedly) that are making his move to Milan possible.

Originally Posted by zlatanov

I would guess it's net pay but not 100% sure ... it would be way too little to be gross (even if you take Sheva's salary in his last year, which was ~6 mil, I think).

Maybe contracts are negotiated with taxes in mind and the sums mentioned are the nest amount ... just a guess really.

Yeah it has to be net. Otherwise if we were paying Kaka 4 mill gross, that would be a pittance for any player (when you consider what other teams pay). Ancelott's new contract sees him earn 4 million pounds (about 6 million gross).

Marca even says 12 mill net would see Kaka earn thrice as much, so that must mean that Kaka earns 8 million gross (which is a very good salary and very competitive even if you do take the tax rates into account).

I would think Milan would be ready to raise that next year to 10-12 million euros to bring Kaka in line with the bandieri. And then that would mean the difference between what Real have been confirmed to offer yesterday (10 million with Kaka making 7.5 net) would simply mean a difference of 1.5 million net. Not that much, I'd think, especially for a player to switch a country.

However, the 12 million net is insane, and largely speculation. I still don't see Kaka leaving for another 2-3 seasons.

Originally Posted by Mystik

I'll ask Tony how he dealt with the possibilty and eventual departure of Zizou from Juventus so I'll be able to deal with Kaka going some seasons from now.

It was hard to accept, of course, but i think Milan fans experienced similar thing already with Sheva, and both Juve and Milan fans experienced worst things ( relegation to serie B...Milan-Liverpool in 2005)

As for the wages....i think ( i'm not sure at all) that Del Piero with 10m Euro per year is the highest payed player in serie A

Originally Posted by Tony29.

As for the wages....i think ( i'm not sure at all) that Del Piero with 10m Euro per year is the highest payed player in serie A

I think Totti earns close to 11 or 12 m euros gross. He earns 74,300 pounds a week (after tax), and is the highest paid player in the country. I read that in World Soccer.

So I guess the highest Milan go is around that figure because I know players like Maldini and Vieri were very close to Del Piero in earning (in a list published in 2005).

The following is from 2005 (all the figures must be in gross). Curiously no Milan players are listed, but I am fairly sure that our players are amongst the best paid in the world. So in conclusion, I think Kaka probably makes 8 million gross at Milan.

English soccer star David Beckham is the highest-paid player in the world, according to a report published in Tuesday's edition of France Football magazine.

The 29-year-old midfielder, who plays in Spain's La Liga (first division) with Real Madrid, makes 6.4 million euros ($10.3 million Cdn) a season. Although that is not soccer's highest yearly wage, the English national team captain pulls in 25 million euros ($40.3 million Cdn) a year thanks to commercial endorsements and image rights.

Beckham's Real Madrid teammates, Brazilian striker Ronaldo (19.6 million euros , $31.6 million Cdn) and Frenchman Zinedine Zidane (13 million euros, $30 million Cdn), rank second and third on the annual rich list, respectively.

Michael Owen, Ronaldo and David Beckham. (AP/Alvaro Barrientos)
Michael Owen, Ronaldo and David Beckham. (AP/Alvaro Barrientos)

Coming in fourth and fifth are a pair of Italian players: Inter Milan striker Christian Vieri, 12 million euros ($19.4 million Cdn), and Alessandro Del Piero of Juventus, at 9.5 million euros ($15.3 million Cdn).

Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard earns the highest annual wage in soccer, 7.6 million euros ($12.3 million Cdn) a season, but limited endorsements mean his overall income is 9.4 million euros ($15.2 million Cdn), good enough for only sixth on the list.

Real Madrid striker Raul (9.3 million euros, $15 million Cdn), French forward Thierry Henry of Arsenal (9.2 million euros, $14.9 million Cdn), English defender John Terry of Chelsea (8.6 million euros, $14 million Cdn), and Portuguese midfielder Luis Figo of Real Madrid (8.5 million euros, $13.8 million Cdn) round out the top 10.

France Football is a bi-weekly magazine that covers soccer from all over the globe and is considered one of the most reputed sports publications in Europe.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2005/...ham050503.html

According to tg.com, Kaka' would like to see sheva back. So if sheva were to come, Kaka' would stay for sure, otherwise he wouldnt "sponsor" sheva's arrival. ( http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/sport/a...lo366496.shtml )

Many are saying that in spain they earn 25% more. actually for the same salary, a spanish league player earns 50% more than a serie a player. If the gross salary is 10m euro's, in spain he earns 7.5m and in Italy he earns 5m...... 50% more in spain. It is however, 25 percent points more.

Also, one question: why is milan interested in mediano/defensive midfielder? We have gattuso and ambrosini. If we get a new striker, we will go back to the 4-3-1-2 formation, so gattuso and ambro cant play simultaneously. We also have brocchi, although rumors say he will be sold.

Cant wait for La Liga to finish so we actually see some action by Galliani....

mrki, then you will be disappointed if you expect any action on the market soon! i reckon we'll sign a player by mid-july and another by mid-august.. but hey im a pessimist so who knows maybe galliani will sign 6 players next week

Im suprised no one mentioned that fene have approached us about Ronaldo, it also says on Channel 4 we shall not sell kaka.

I hope we can tie Kaka to us till he retires.

As soon as la liga is over, im pretty sure milan will start moving in more "official" ways to sign players. Hopefully real madrid will win, so we might be able to sign some barça players.
According to Rai-Sport, if Henry signs with barça, either r10 or eto'o will certainly leave - more likely eto'o. They also said milan and inter have the same probabilities of getting him.

Originally Posted by Milancelotti

I hope we can tie Kaka to us till he retires.

Indeed. But Kaka' is very reliant on speed and acceleration. As has been mentioned before, these players (like eto'o and henry) arent as good when they become old and cant run... do you really expect kaka' to be able to slice through defenses at age 33? However, he is still good for another 5 solid years, and it would be a pity to lose him. apart from the raw talent, he is like the heart (or one of the many hearts ) in our team, and will very likely become the heart even more with time.

i'm sorry for going offtopic but does anyone know what does this mean, it's a parole from Livorno supporters

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5...trisciomu0.jpg

Originally Posted by zlatanov

those players are well into their 30s already so it's not like they have loads of options out there - if they wanna keep playing at the very highest level, they would have to make some sacrifices, otherwise I am sure Villareal or Samp would be more than happy to offer them first team spots, no matter what

Also, Milan is looking at those players so that more and more rotation is possible and Carlo can avoid playing the same players over and over again given all the games that await us this year - the notion of "starters" and "reserves" will be a little dif if we manage to get a couple of class players as they will get plenty of time rotating with the ones we already have.

I tottaly agree with what you said

I just don´t know if Makelele and Edmílson would want to go out of their teams to join another with players as good as they

Emerson don´t seems to be so happy in Real Madrid but I think Juventus and Internazionale will try he too

Originally Posted by Samuca

Emerson don´t seems to be so happy in Real Madrid but I think Juventus and Internazionale will try he too

When one guy from Juve managment ( i don't remember if it was Secco or Cobolli Gigli) was asked about Cannavaro, Emerson and Zambrotta going back to Juve, he said : Emerson and Zambrotta will not be Juve players next season.
He "forgot" to mention Cannavaro's name, so it may be possible Canna to wear black&white again, but i'm absolutly sure Puma and Zambrotta will not go to Juve.
Unless something goes wrong with the medicals, Emerson will be Milan player next year.

Ok, since I have no life, I searched tirelessly for a wage list. I finally found one (bottom of page: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...=latin_america)

The first column is the base salary in euros. The second column is with endorsements.

So as Zlat mentioned top players in Milan earn 6 million euros. That is a very competitive salary. Taxes in England are 40%. In Italy they are 50%. So Italy and England are at a disadvantage when it comes to competing with Real and Barca.

So Silvio is really in generous mood if he is going to pay Ronaldino a base salary of 10 million (he will also hand over his image rights). That means Real's offer of 10 million would indeed be a lot, and not many players make that kind of money (I think Ballack does).

So take heart, the numbers Real are throwing around are out of touch with reality and definitely not the norm. As such, if we want to retain Kaka's services beyond 2011 or whatever, we would have to offer him something similar. If Silvio is ready to make an economic sacrifice for Ronaldinho, then I am sure he can do it for Kaka. Until then, we will, as Zlat said, bring him in line with our top earners in the team (maybe a bit more).