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Any updates on Nilmar joining an european giant?

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

Thanks for the info Brasileiro, have u heard any news regarding the mentioned Brazil players coming to Milan or linking them to Milan lately?

Gabriel, the only name linked to Milan is Hernanes of São Paulo...but at the same time, some reliable journalist said thet Barcelona is pushing hard for him, and maybe Hernanes goes to Barça.

Since Leonardo has great ralationship with São Paulo, to lose Hernanes to another team(there´s a talk about Inter also) will be a great mistake. This guy is playing at amazing level, and I have no doubt to say that he is the only guy that can play at Pirlo role and make us not miss the first one.

To be straight, if I was Brazil´s NT coach, this guy would be a starter in Brazil midfield...even Dino Sani, brazilian and Milan legend, said that he´s impressed by Hernanes, and that have admiration for the way the guy plays...and that tells much, because Dino Sani was the first guy to play the "Pirlo´s role" in Milan several years ago.

Since Hernanes already played as a AMD, RB, second striker, winger in his short career(23 years old), I was waiting for him to play more than one season at "Pirlo´s role" to be convinced...and today I have no doubt, a future world class player after he land in Europe.

Originally Posted by Brasileiro

Gabriel, the only name linked to Milan is Hernanes of São Paulo...but at the same time, some reliable journalist said thet Barcelona is pushing hard for him, and maybe Hernanes goes to Barça.

Since Leonardo has great ralationship with São Paulo, to lose Hernanes to another team(there´s a talk about Inter also) will be a great mistake. This guy is playing at amazing level, and I have no doubt to say that he is the only guy that can play at Pirlo role and make us not miss the first one.

To be straight, if I was Brazil´s NT coach, this guy would be a starter in Brazil midfield...even Dino Sani, brazilian and Milan legend, said that he´s impressed by Hernanes, and that have admiration for the way the guy plays...and that tells much, because Dino Sani was the first guy to play the "Pirlo´s role" in Milan several years ago.

Since Hernanes already played as a AMD, RB, second striker, winger in his short career(23 years old), I was waiting for him to play more than one season at "Pirlo´s role" to be convinced...and today I have no doubt, a future world class player after he land in Europe.

i think it's interesting to know what are hernanes intentions
if he wants to come to milan or to another team
and if he wants to land in europe these season or he wants to play in sao paolo for another season

Both, Milan and Inter, want Hernanes but Barcelona is leading the chase.

Originally Posted by GilAttack [11]

Both, Milan and Inter, want Hernanes but Barcelona is leading the chase.

This player that Brasileiro has told so many times (almost similar to how many times he's mentioned about Pato ) and in this case, I believe him.

We should buy this guy!

Originally Posted by marcovb

i think it's interesting to know what are hernanes intentions
if he wants to come to milan or to another team
and if he wants to land in europe these season or he wants to play in sao paolo for another season

Indeed. I saw Hernanes saying that to play one more year in Brazil wouldn´t be a problem...regarding teams, it´s hard to know because he didn´t talk about names.

@Siregar
Yep, in Pato I bet high because when I said we need to buy him, I just had watched 1 game of the #7 ...but it was clear that that 16yo kid wasn´t a normal player. I think you guys have the same sensation when saw Pato playing for the first time...the boy has a confidence and aura of a star.

Hernanes is playing better and better, and is showing he can be "the man" for a big team in Brazil. this is important when I put my "credibility as scout"
in jeopardy

Joking aside, the player can have talent, but until I saw him puting the team on his back, dealing with the pressure of a big club in Brazil, I can´t bet he´s ready for a big of Europe like Milan. In the past, I saw young guys like Pato, Marcelo, Lucas, Anderson doing this here besides their young age, and I have no doubt they would go to be a success in Europe.

When a player have talent+hard-work+character, and shows that can perform in a big club here, I have no doubt they will shine in a great(and steady) environment as our Milan...

Btw, keep an eye in Alex Teixeira from Vasco da Gama...I have a feeling this boy will be a star. My only "If" is that I don´t have reports about his character to know if the boy has a good head or no. But the talent is amazing...

Firts of ALL, I would like to say THANK YOU Brasiliero for making things beutifull in here and making us love Brasilian magical football even more! This thread is priceless and Im sure no other forum in the world has it! The way you explain the caracteristics of young players in priceless... My bows to you and big thanx for efforts !!! Aguess football really sometimes makes people come closer.

More, on one of the Serbian tv stations ( which I can catch from Croatia ) there are matches of Brasilian lkeague once a week, or even twice sometimes so I watch it. I have to say I have real problems in watching that kind of football and judging players potentials. For us eruopeans its not easy to watch that kind of open play and a game where 22 players all have brilliant technique and still find out which player can really play in Europe (Milan).

Sao Paulo is a cluib that has been broadcaseted oftenly and I see Adriano playing POOR and slow football, that is not the Imperatore he once was and I completely understand what you said that Brasilian papers exagarrate in him.

Hernanes I've seen only 2 times, once for Brasil and once for a club. He looked like a truly responsible player with brains, and a player that can play Euro football in Milan. But I havent seen enough of him yet.

Also I have a question that has been bothering me. I, personally, have a feeling that our boy PAto has been playing BELOW the level he can play! Do not get me wrong, he played great in these circumstances (poor Milan, high pressure, low striker partner quality...). But in matches ike Torino-Milan or Milan-Lazio Pato showed he can, with his 18 years and one serious season, play by himself and carry whole AC MILAN on his shoulders. My personal feeling is that Pato right now has bad luck and Brasil is not playing well nor is Milan. And when Milan starts playing serious passing game, with PAto having his freedom he needs, he will shine and show he could be a better player then Sheva for example.

For a long time I havent seen a young player so strong going vertically. He needs MORE FREEDOM and one good forwarsd with him and we'll see brilliant PAto.

What do you think, has PAto played his full football or, as I think, he has just showed glimpses of his real football? Cheers.

THANKS BRASILIERO, I really need to know this Hernanes player, b/c I have heard so much about him. I think I will start watching those Brazil games on TV now, b/c thats the only games on beside the EURO, if you don't mind can u tell me which teams have potential players that can play for Milan and their number, that way I know who they are.

Cheers mate, you are awesome with those Brazil reports

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Originally Posted by mrki

Firts of ALL, I would like to say THANK YOU Brasiliero for making things beutifull in here and making us love Brasilian magical football even more! This thread is priceless and Im sure no other forum in the world has it! The way you explain the caracteristics of young players in priceless... My bows to you and big thanx for efforts !!! Aguess football really sometimes makes people come closer.

Thanks for the words, my friend...and as I said to hitmanq8, any time you guys also wants to come to Brazil(Carnaval, Parties, 2014 WC, or just to know the country) feel free to talk to me, and I will help...

More, on one of the Serbian tv stations ( which I can catch from Croatia ) there are matches of Brasilian lkeague once a week, or even twice sometimes so I watch it. I have to say I have real problems in watching that kind of football and judging players potentials. For us eruopeans its not easy to watch that kind of open play and a game where 22 players all have brilliant technique and still find out which player can really play in Europe (Milan).

Great point, mrki...last month I was watching a TV show, and if I´m not wrong It was Zico saying about the diferent ways we(South Americans) and Europeans see a player. It´s not that one is 100% right and the other 100% wrong...the fact is that we just praise some caracteristcs and european anothers.

Look at Robinho´s case. Just because he´s VERY skilled, R. Madrid coaches put him as a winger. He can play there, but at the same time, he´s also more easy to defend if stay only in the left because he doesn´t know how to play with the back for a defender. Imo a winger needs to know that, or he will be easily shut down by a fast(and good) fullback...Roben and S. Wright-Philips have the same body(or even less) of Robinho, but they are used to it since they are kids to hold a defender at his back. They have the know how to play as a winger.

I have some good discussion with respectable poster(europeans) in another forum about Robinho in Chelsea...in EPL. It´s funny how the majority jump to attack his body saying he can´t play there. But others(also europeans and mostly Arsenal and MU fans) realy look at the same way we do here. If you put Robinho in EPL as a pure winger, he wil have problems, but if you give him the free role, even in the left, as Wenger used to play Henry, he will shine. Schuster almost did this and Robinho had a amazing year until the abdominal injure.

I used this example just to show how some times we see diferents things in the same player...and why I can say before the guy goes to europe, if he will be a bust or not. The player can have all the talent in the world, but if he´s used out of position, he will fail. I realy don´understand why a team(R. Madrid) pay 30Mil for one player to play him in a wong position...This is why guys like Monchi(The Braida of Sevilla) buy unkown players in Brazil(for the majority in Europe) like Alves, Renato, Adriano and they become great players. It´s simple, Sevilla use the players wrer they can shine. They balance our vison(S. Americans) with the way europeans see the game. It´s easy, but people forget this simple thing...

Sao Paulo is a cluib that has been broadcaseted oftenly and I see Adriano playing POOR and slow football, that is not the Imperatore he once was and I completely understand what you said that Brasilian papers exagarrate in him.

Yep, this hype for Adriano in Brazil is crazy. He was scoring with S. Paulo, but as you saw he was POOR. Any people watching Adriano withou bias would see this...

Hernanes I've seen only 2 times, once for Brasil and once for a club. He looked like a truly responsible player with brains, and a player that can play Euro football in Milan. But I havent seen enough of him yet.

Hernanes isn´t called "the brazilian Pirlo" for nothing...as you said, when you see Hernanes to play, the first thing caught the atention is: "This guy is a cerebral player"..."He knows how to use his brain more than other players"...like when we see Pilro playing.

Also I have a question that has been bothering me. I, personally, have a feeling that our boy PAto has been playing BELOW the level he can play! Do not get me wrong, he played great in these circumstances (poor Milan, high pressure, low striker partner quality...). But in matches ike Torino-Milan or Milan-Lazio Pato showed he can, with his 18 years and one serious season, play by himself and carry whole AC MILAN on his shoulders. My personal feeling is that Pato right now has bad luck and Brasil is not playing well nor is Milan. And when Milan starts playing serious passing game, with PAto having his freedom he needs, he will shine and show he could be a better player then Sheva for example.

For a long time I havent seen a young player so strong going vertically. He needs MORE FREEDOM and one good forwarsd with him and we'll see brilliant PAto.

What do you think, has PAto played his full football or, as I think, he has just showed glimpses of his real football? Cheers.

Another great point, and you´re 100% right. As I said in another thread, the problem is: Pato is still learning how to play as a second striker. He isn´t confortable playing in the left or right, or more far from the goal. Because he´s skilled and not that big, people(Carlo also) think he´s a segunda punta. But this boy alawys played as a pure CF...this is why here they compare him to Ronaldo, Romário and not Bebeto. But at the same time, he´s 18yo and it wil be good for him to learn how to play a new role...but I just hope they leave him play at his original position also.

Sure the boy has all the tools to play as a second striker, but right now he is at his best as a CF...as we saw in his goals against Napoli, Fiorentina and others. As you said, he´s amazing going vertically and also is a great header.

Imo learning a new position in the most dificult place to play as a foward in the world, and injures, hold his development a little bit. But I´m still impressed by the way handle his fisrt seson, and I have a feeling he will be Serie A top scorer this season if he stay injure free. Huge bet, but his goals average make me feel confortable beting...

That is why our best purchase would be Ronaldinho, so we can play Dinho-Kaka'-Pato

Not sure if he would be the BEST purchase, but he will be a very decent signing...

Any good DC from Brazil as well!?

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=737055
Hernanes is on his way to Barcelona.

It is from Goal.com, and beside I think if Milan wants him, with the relations that Sao Paolo and Milan have as well as those Brazilians, namely Pato and Kaka. He will choose Milan over Barcelona

Originally Posted by Gabriel489

It is from Goal.com, and beside I think if Milan wants him, with the relations that Sao Paolo and Milan have as well as those Brazilians, namely Pato and Kaka. He will choose Milan over Barcelona

There´s no doubt about this, Gabriel...
If Milan realy wants, I have no doubt he chose Milan. But as we generaly don´t enter in bid wars(Pato´s case aside), I´m afraid he will be a Barça player.

Btw, I think he doesn´t have a european passport, and thats dificult the process since(if i´m not wrong) we only have one spot for a foreign.

Originally Posted by Jeff

Not sure if he would be the BEST purchase, but he will be a very decent signing...

Any good DC from Brazil as well!?

Sorry Jeff, but what DC means?