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Old 25-06-2007, 12:57   #4306

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Or, its obvious Chivu is for sale! His wages will certanly not go for more than 4 mil oer season, lets pay ROma decent money and sign the man.
Looks like it's not about the money. Roma wants him in Barcelona if they must sell him, but Chivu himself wants Inter.
If a man doesn't want Barcelona only because he wants to play for Inter, i doubt he'll like to join Milan or Juve.

Lets face it guys....with this transfer policy Milan and Juve have, we're not competetive with Inter on the mercato. They go -180m and Moratti is covering the minus while Berlusconi and Juve's shareholders won't even think about investing ~200m in one year.
This will change sooner or later because Moratti can't continue doing this over and over again...but until it does change, we'll be inferior to them, at least on the transfer market
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Old 25-06-2007, 13:04   #4307

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Or let US buy Abidal and make our LB sealed by Abidal and Marek. Im fed up with waiting for other clubs to make their movs on mercato and then we came on for charity and whats left. Or, its obvious Chivu is for sale! His wages will certanly not go for more than 4 mil oer season, lets pay ROma decent money and sign the man. There ARE options,but Galliani isnt working hard on mercato as he used to do.

If Barca buys Abidal, they'll put Zambro on the RB and he'll be lost. We dont need Alves as we have Oddo who is good enough for now. Dont think Milan will get Zambrotta just becouse Barcelona bought a LB.

Im 100% sure that, with proper investment, we can sign Abidal, Edmilson and Pato. And there we have: great LB, experienced and good DM, very promising CF to play with Gila,Pippo,Ronaldo,Kaka'. I think that for European champions this simply needs to be possible. If not, then something is wrong with Berlusconi-Galliani-Braida connection, mark my words on this issue.

If they are not ready to invest 50 mil on 3 top class players - then the hell with it all!
well, I personally would prefer Abidal for LB as he is 3 years, I think, younger than Zambro and will come for about the same price too having only 1 year left on his contract with Lyon and wanting away.

if not him then Zambro would be great too but he is my second choice for LB namely because of his age as I am not sure for how much longer he would be able to sustain that speed necessary for LB nowadays. If Zambro was at Abidal's age, he would be my pick but that's not the case, so ...

This being said, Marko you have to realize that we and those who write those rumours have a very vague idea of what is really going on behind the curtains at Milanello and what Milan management is really doing or not.
Most of these rumours we read today or will read tomorrow, if true at all and most of them are probbaly not, are old news for Galliani and what their current plans are, we have no idea of at least for now.

Also, Abidal said some months ago - after the Lyon-Roma games where he was racially insulted by that moron de Rossi (excellent mid but let's face it the guy is as hollow as a church bell) that he would not want to play in Italy and would prefer England and Spain, especially barcelona ... so, he'd had his heart set on a Barca move for some time now, and they have been aftehim too ... add to that how Aulas allowed Tiago to chose which team to sign for depsite Milan's offer being superior to Juve's and you should realize that Milan faces a lot more issues than simply showing interest and making an offer to get Abidal.

One would probably say that we should at least try ... well, what makes you think we haven't ... the lack of rumours in the papers? ... although on all fairness to the scribblers, there were such rumours that Milan and Barca were fighting over ABidal or whatever not more than 2-3 weeks ago.
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Old 25-06-2007, 13:13   #4308

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Zlat im not saying we have actually tried or havent tried for those players, but I am only giving an example how an investment of 50 mil can reinforce our squad. Rumors aside, as 95% of it is useless, we havent been doing good in mercato for the last 2 summers. This one hasnt started good either,or it hasnt started at all.

There was a lot of talk how Silvios business has been taken over by his financial "manager" ( or something ) who is his daughter and she is suggesting less investments in Milan as it hurts familys profits of course. It may be the case as we all can see Milan has some serious problems concluding the bigger edals and is really carefull with investments. We'll see, but as I was saying, if we cant invest 50 mil, that screw it all.
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Old 25-06-2007, 13:29   #4309

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well, he had 100 mil for dinho ... if the problems were that he can't get money at all for Milan's transfers, that wouldn't have been the case whether it's Dinho or not ... not to mention that most of the players we are gunning for are expected to be very expensive anyway (30+ mil at least).

what I was saying is that there are a limited number of players out there who are worth going for and not all of them are "touchable" for one reason or another. for instance, Zambro and Abidal are probably one of the few players who are worth to go for as far as new LB goes but things are not as simple as they seem.

As for midfielders, there are plenty out there and Milan are probably weighing their options - no need to close our options just now with the first player that comes to mind when the summer has just started.
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Old 25-06-2007, 13:30   #4310

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Zlat im not saying we have actually tried or havent tried for those players, but I am only giving an example how an investment of 50 mil can reinforce our squad. Rumors aside, as 95% of it is useless, we havent been doing good in mercato for the last 2 summers. This one hasnt started good either,or it hasnt started at all.

There was a lot of talk how Silvios business has been taken over by his financial "manager" ( or something ) who is his daughter and she is suggesting less investments in Milan as it hurts familys profits of course.
It may be the case as we all can see Milan has some serious problems concluding the bigger edals and is really carefull with investments. We'll see, but as I was saying, if we cant invest 50 mil, that screw it all.
I wouldn't believe everything I read. Remember that one of the biggest reasons we aren't investing (50 mill!) is because of our success in the last few seasons.

Also remember that Barcelona have bought one player on a bargain. We were willing to pay for Suazo also.

Not everyone is like Inter and Chelsea. Not us, not Man U even.

The summer has just started. We can start sweating in August.

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well, he had 100 mil for dinho ... if the problems were that he can't get money at all for Milan's transfers, that wouldn't have been the case whether it's Dinho or not ... not to mention that most of the players we are gunning for are expected to expensive (30+ mil at least).

what I was saying is that there are a limited number of players out there who are worth going for and not all of them are "touchable" for one reason or another. for instance, Zambro and Abidal are probably one of the few players who are worth to go for as far as new LB goes but things are not as simple as they seem.

As for midfielders, there are plenty out there and Milan are probably weighing their options - no need to close our options just now with the first player that comes to mind when the summer has just started.
What did you think of Galliani's brutal candour yesterday regarding Oli?
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You all must have in mind that Milan is the European king of the last 5 years. You are the current Euro champs.
The other major clubs want to detronize you and destroy you, they don't want to reinforce you.
I may be wrong but i think that they'll rather sell to Bayern or Juve than to Milan.
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What did you think of Galliani's brutal candour yesterday regarding Oli?
you mean where he said that the only striker who could/would be sacrificed is RO?

I personally would have refrained from making such comments, espaiclly publically, as we don't have a guaranteed replacement for him yet and in the end we could end up keeping him ... and it also affects how RO sees Milan (his dedication to the team that is) should he have to saty on.
But then again, it's also possible that it had already been decided - between both club and player - that he would be leaving no matter what ... something we wouldn't be aware of just yet.

So, maybe Galliani's words could be seen as a clue what the club intends to do with RO and not just careless comments on AG's part.
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you mean where he said that the only striker who could/would be sacrificed is RO?

I personally would have refrained from making such comments, espaiclly publically, as we don't have a guaranteed replacement for him yet and in the end we could end up keeping him ... and it also affects how RO sees Milan (his dedication to the team that is) should he have to saty on.
But then again, it's also possible that it had already been decided - between both club and player - that he would be leaving no matter what ... something we wouldn't be aware of just yet.

So, maybe Galliani's words could be seen as a clue what the club intends to do with RO and not just careless comments on AG's part.
Yeah...Galliani must be sure that Oli is either leaving for cash, or in a swap deal.
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Suazo says his farewells
Monday 25 June, 2007
David Suazo is ready to start his new adventure at Inter and has thanked both Cagliari and Milan for his opportunity.

“I am pleased to join Inter and I am very thankful to Coach Roberto Mancini and President Massimo Moratti who decided to sign me,” said the Honduran.

Their interest shows that I have proven something positive while at Cagliari,” said Suazo.

“I have nothing against President Massimo Cellino, because I know that he has done his best for me. At Cagliari I had a great time and is thanks to them that I have become the player I am now.

“However, I don’t forget what Milan and Adriano Galliani have done. I am glad they have understood my situation and my wishes.”

After losing Suazo, the Rossoneri will now have to look for another striker. According to several reports President Silvio Berlusconi has asked his men to bring a great star to San Siro.

While Thierry Henry has joined Barcelona and Samuel Eto’o is not for sale, Berlusconi is still alleged to be dreaming of a swoop for Ronaldinho.

The Brazilian star is reportedly unsettled in Catalonia and the fans would not contest his departure following Henry’s arrival.

However, Ronaldinho is not the only option for Milan. Didier Droga, David Villa, Adriano and David Trezeguet are also rumoured to be on Ariedo Braida and Galliani’s list.

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You all must have in mind that Milan is the European king of the last 5 years. You are the current Euro champs.
The other major clubs want to detronize you and destroy you, they don't want to reinforce you.
I may be wrong but i think that they'll rather sell to Bayern or Juve than to Milan.
well, I wish them good luck with that also because of this :
http://www.calciomercato.it/dettagli...=3&hdnId=21093

maybe the first signs about dressing room problems at Barca after the arrival of Henry - the above says that there has been some murmuring about his wages of 10 mil net/season
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i know this may seem a little weird me saying this but us hounding Barca for Eto'o or R10 is that only what Real Madrid have been doing to us regarding Kaka?

yes im aware of Real going too far by sending people behind our backs to Kakas Father and so on but it isnt giving Barca a good thought about us will this put them off from selling to us in the future?
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well, I wish them good luck with that also because of this :
http://www.calciomercato.it/dettagli...=3&hdnId=21093

maybe the first signs about dressing room problems at Barca after the arrival of Henry - the above says that there has been some murmuring about his wages of 10 mil net/season
regarding those troubles, its rumoured that it was namely Dinho, who as soon as he learned that Henry was getting 10 mil, Dinho is getting around 7-8, I think, he is gonna be having a chat with the management - at the bottom here:
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/controc...lo367797.shtml

one more reason to really carefully consider what would/could be the consequences for us if Milan were to get Dinho and pay him the salary Silvio seems to be ready to give him - and namely 10 mil euros.
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Publications in Spain suggest Henry is going to earn 6 mill/year.
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Publications in Spain suggest Henry is going to earn 6 mill/year.
I find that hard to believe after what Galliani said yesterday about Milan being close to him but the salary turning out to be the stumbling block - had he come to Milan, about 6 mil net is what he would have been given anyway as this is how much Milan's star players earn.
I doubt Galliani was just throwing random figures when he mentioned 10, 15, 20 mil regarding Henry's salary ... I think he was actually talking about the actual sums.
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