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All the facts you post about Senna - Schumi are correct. I hope my post didn't bother you or anything bad. That's just my opinion.

BTW, is Schumi to F1 equal to Juve to Serie-A? I mean Juve won the mosty scudetti than the others but noone ever said that Juve is the best team in Serie A. Ppl only said that Juve won the most trophies in domestic competition.
And more, Hill, Villeneuve and Hakkinen ain't the true rivals for Schumi. Schumi was absolutely out of their league.
The true rival for Schumi is Adrian Newey. He built great cars in Williams to give Hill and Villeneuve the world champion title. Then when Frank Williams kicked Hill out from his team, Newey were upset because he wants a british driver in his team. So he went to Mc Laren which has a british driver, DC. There he built great cars too and Hakkinen won the world champion twice. After that he lost his magical touch and evenmore Mercedes couldn't supply a reliable engine. And, Ferrari rules. Schumi won the titles, 4 in a row. Absolutely remarkable. I think his records will last forever.

I also have an opinion about F1 history. It's about the competition its self rather then the drivers or teams.

Since the 1st GP in the 1950 until the early 90's, F1 stage has many great teams and drivers. Just mention Fagio, Clark, Brabham, Fittipaldi, Lauda, Andretti, Rosberg, Prost and Senna etc. And the teams like Ferrari, Lotus, Brabham, Tyrell, Williams, Mc Laren etc.

They competed tightly and the teams built great and fast cars. They were managed to built faster and faster cars. I was wondering why FIA didn't go that way and always change the regulations to cut off the speed. They said it was due to the safety.

IMO the turning point of F1 history is when FIA banned the turbo-charger usage. We all know that turbo-charger is the easiest and cheapest way to boost the speed. Since it was illegal many teams couldn't built any competetive cars. We have lost Brabham, Tyrell and many more. Since then, technology rules. Only great team with huge finance could managed to built a fast and reliable car ie. Scuderia Ferrari, Mc Laren - Mercedes and Williams - BMW.
Ferrari has more budget than others, so they could build perfect cars in last several seasons. Mc Laren has many problems in MP4-18 which couldn't pass the crash test and MP4-19 in its reliability. Williams has less problems. It more to the drivers, particularly when Ralf and JPM crashed their cars onto each other's. Stupid mistake!. The BMW engine has a great power but the chassis just couldn't accomodate that power.

I think the threat for Ferrari in the future is HONDA. Once an F1 expert (i forgot his name) said, Honda will be the champion if they wanted to. Now they've got so many things in progress. If the time has come, they will sign a good driver to earn the world champion title.

That's it, Nuff said.

-peace-

PS: does anyone remember a silly mistake by Mansell in Canadian GP 1991. He miscounted the lap(s) remaining. LoL.

Originally posted by argo
All the facts you post about Senna - Schumi are correct. I hope my post didn't bother you or anything bad. That's just my opinion.

All opinions are welcomed.

BTW, is Schumi to F1 equal to Juve to Serie-A? I mean Juve won the mosty scudetti than the others but noone ever said that Juve is the best team in Serie A. Ppl only said that Juve won the most trophies in domestic competition.

Comparing Schumi to Juve is not the same. Both of sports are different thing.

And more, Hill, Villeneuve and Hakkinen ain't the true rivals for Schumi. Schumi was absolutely out of their league.
The true rival for Schumi is Adrian Newey. He built great cars in Williams to give Hill and Villeneuve the world champion title. Then when Frank Williams kicked Hill out from his team, Newey were upset because he wants a british driver in his team. So he went to Mc Laren which has a british driver, DC. There he built great cars too and Hakkinen won the world champion twice. After that he lost his magical touch and evenmore Mercedes couldn't supply a reliable engine. And, Ferrari rules. Schumi won the titles, 4 in a row. Absolutely remarkable. I think his records will last forever.

DC is Scottish. McLaren had ever created the fast engines but less reliability. For instance, when Mika won the title at that time. Fortunately, the *that impracticable* could give the *path* for Mika got his twice title. But you can NOT count on only the fast engines, you surely need the another crucial matter, the reliability and aerodynamics within its cars of search & development.

Since the 1st GP in the 1950 until the early 90's, F1 stage has many great teams and drivers. Just mention Fagio, Clark, Brabham, Fittipaldi, Lauda, Andretti, Rosberg, Prost and Senna etc. And the teams like Ferrari, Lotus, Brabham, Tyrell, Williams, Mc Laren etc.

It supposed to be Fangio.

They competed tightly and the teams built great and fast cars. They were managed to built faster and faster cars. I was wondering why FIA didn't go that way and always change the regulations to cut off the speed. They said it was due to the safety.

FIA does the right thing. Do you want another Senna tragedy repeated once again at nowadays?

IMO the turning point of F1 history is when FIA banned the turbo-charger usage. We all know that turbo-charger is the easiest and cheapest way to boost the speed. Since it was illegal many teams couldn't built any competetive cars. We have lost Brabham, Tyrell and many more. Since then, technology rules. Only great team with huge finance could managed to built a fast and reliable car ie. Scuderia Ferrari, Mc Laren - Mercedes and Williams - BMW.

Don't forget Toyota. Their investment also one of the biggest included.

Ferrari has more budget than others, so they could build perfect cars in last several seasons. Mc Laren has many problems in MP4-18 which couldn't pass the crash test and MP4-19 in its reliability. Williams has less problems. It more to the drivers, particularly when Ralf and JPM crashed their cars onto each other's. Stupid mistake!. The BMW engine has a great power but the chassis just couldn't accomodate that power.

Couldn't you explain us why does Williams-BMW *introduce* of developing the new radical front nose?

I think the threat for Ferrari in the future is HONDA. Once an F1 expert (i forgot his name) said, Honda will be the champion if they wanted to. Now they've got so many things in progress. If the time has come, they will sign a good driver to earn the world champion title.

I tumbs up for their development. But the expectation of chance of winning the title is still far away to go. The realistic thing is, if they finish at top five or six on final constructor's table, they already done the great season. And Jenson Button absolutely will extend his contract....

That's it, Nuff said.

-peace-

PS: does anyone remember a silly mistake by Mansell in Canadian GP 1991. He miscounted the lap(s) remaining. LoL. [/b]

Originally posted by Rex
All opinions are welcomed.



Comparing Schumi to Juve is not the same. Both of sports are different thing.

DC is Scottish. McLaren had ever created the fast engines but less reliability. For instance, when Mika won the title at that time. Fortunately, the *that impracticable* could give the *path* for Mika got his twice title. But you can NOT count on only the fast engines, you surely need the another crucial matter, the reliability and aerodynamics within its cars of search & development.

In all sports excluding football, scottish + irish + english + welsh athletes are fighting for one country, Great Britain. so we called them british. Haven't you ever noticed what flag is on DC's helmet or when he got to podium? Union Jack, not Scot's cross flag.
If JPM replaces DC next season, will Newey move to another team? if he does so then the team must be BAR.

It supposed to be Fangio.

Thanks for the correction.

FIA does the right thing. Do you want another Senna tragedy repeated once again at nowadays?

So why they didn't make any regulations that more strict to car's safety or re-design the track? IMO cutting off the speed is almost impossible because technology development is much much faster nowadays, particularly for the major teams. Maybe FIA will decrease the engine capacity down to 1000 cc. Hahaha..

Don't forget Toyota. Their investment also one of the biggest included.

Sure but Toyota needs more experiences.

Couldn't you explain us why does Williams-BMW *introduce* of developing the new radical front nose?

i can't stand why Patrick Head build a car with that ugly nose like that. It doesn't quite work yet. Maybe still need more improvement.
BTW what about the ugly nose of Ferrari 'The Enzo'? It's more like a forklift than a supercar. The engine is great but that nose.. OMG... Cann't they make another great supercar like F40 or F50? (reminds me of Don Johnson's F40 in 'Miami Vice')

I tumbs up for their development. But the expectation of chance of winning the title is still far away to go. The realistic thing is, if they finish at top five or six on final constructor's table, they already done the great season. And Jenson Button absolutely will extend his contract....

He is a good driver indeed. Otherwise he is still young.
Maybe Honda will re-united again with McLaren.

Sch

Valentino Rossi practised with f1 car Ferrari, and he made quite good results - 59,sec. only 3 sec. from Fiorano track record made by Schumi.
If he joins Ferrari I shall make up my mind about him

Originally posted by rae
Valentino Rossi practised with f1 car Ferrari, and he made quite good results - 59,sec. only 3 sec. from Fiorano track record made by Schumi.
If he joins Ferrari I shall make up my mind about him

No, he wouldn't. He did it just for fun. But i don't know when he gets bored in MotoGP.

its imola this weekend, and its a very sad and sombre weekend, because it could be the last ever imola gp.
also as i'm sure everybody knows its the anniversary of senna's death.

RIP SENNA

very sad day.

Pilot, Team, Tyres, Time, Gap
1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:20.125
2 Jenson Button BAR-Honda (M) 1:20.150 + 0.025
3 Fernando Alonso Renault (M) 1:20.844 + 0.719
4 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:20.844 + 0.719
5 Juanas Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW (M) 1:20.975 + 0.850
6 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari (B) 1:20.996 + 0.871
7 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda (M) 1:21.159 + 1.034
8 Jarno Trulli Renault (M) 1:21.198 + 1.073
9 Kimi Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:21.199 + 1.074
10 Cristiano da Matta Toyota (M) 1:21.257 + 1.132
11 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW (M) 1:21.271 + 1.146
12 Olivier Panis Toyota (M) 1:21.296 + 1.171
13 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth (M) 1:21.393 + 1.268
14 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas (B) 1:22.022 + 1.897
15 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas (B) 1:22.077 + 1.952
16 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth (M) 1:23.222 + 3.097
17 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford (B) 1:23.551 + 3.426
18 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford (B) 1:24.736 + 4.611
19 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth (B) 1:26.199 + 6.074
20 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth (B) 1:27.451 + 7.326

nice time by Schumi as usual, but it seems that Button anr BAR is goin to be a real obstacle for McL

!Forza Ferrari per sempre!

Originally posted by Lombardia
also as i'm sure everybody knows its the anniversary of senna's death.

indeed....!!!FORZA A. SENNA!!! the BEST racer EVER! (at least for me)

Originally posted by Goirre
indeed....!!!FORZA A. SENNA!!! the BEST racer EVER! (at least for me)

I'm with you, Carlos...
Ayrton Senna da Silva.

Starting Grid for Gran Premio di San Marino:

1. (9) J. BUTTON - BAR Honda
2. (1) M. SCHUMACHER - Ferrari
3. (3) J.P. MONTOYA - Williams
4. (2) R. BARRICHELLO - Ferrari
5. (4) R. SCHUMACHER - Williams BMW
6. (8) F. ALONSO - Renault
7. (10) T. SATO - BAR Honda
8. (14) M. WEBBER - Jaguar Cosworth
9. (7) J. TRULLI - Renault
10. (16) C. DA MATTA - Toyota
11. (5) D. COULTHARD - McLaren Mercedes
12. (12) F. MASSA - Sauber Petronas
13. (17) O. PANIS - Toyota
14. (15) C. KLIEN - Jaguar Cosworth
15. (19) G. PANTANO - Jordan Ford
16. (18) N. HEIDFELD - Jordan Ford
17. (20) G. BRUNI - Minardi Cosworth
18. (21) Z. BAUMGARTNER - Minardi Cosworth
19. (11) G. FISICHELLA - Sauber Petronas
20. (6) K. RAIKKONEN - McLaren Mercedes

Can Button ruin the Ferrari's Party at Imola?

PS: OMG, yet again, poor starting grid for Kimi.
just can't hardly wait for the next McLaren car, MP4-19B or whatever its name.

Ayrton Senna-In Memoriam.

Now the show must go on. Button did it again. Takes his first pole this season due to the improving well of Honda is something predictable on seeing how their preparation to face the races. They might be threaten other rivals particularly Scuderia if they keep consistency...they probably could take second constructor's final standing over in the end..

Sorry for McLaren...this is not your season!

sunday stroll for schuey.
button very impressive in 2nd but was no where near schuey by the end
montoya 3rd annoyed with schuey for 'aggresive' defense when he was trying to pass him on lap 1. i hate to say it but he might have a case and schuey might not have won this just yet.


barrichello v.v.v.v.v.v dissapointing. basically a second a lap slower at least during the entire race to schuey finished 6th

both renaults in the points alonso 4 trulli 5

ralf another incident finished 7th

raikonen finally gets a pt. 1st this season 8th.

Honest, whadafok is wrong with McLaren? What a pity for Raikkonen, good driver IMO, just having a bad car for this season.

I'm with Ferrari all the way for this one, it's homeground baybee!

and also

RIP Ayrton Senna.

'Schummy overlapped Raikkonen'. Something i never expected this season. i want him to give a fight, not a 'sweet surrender' like that.

yet again, the best car wins. congrats...