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Old 30-08-2010, 06:52   #4351

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maxwel robinho????
omg guys,i cant believe my eyes..how is that possible??
i said so many times that we have t stop dreaming the previous days,that i feel an idiot today..

anyway for me robinho is a gr8 playr,that can find a friendly enviroment here,which im sure he needs so as to start performing as he can..BUT i dont think they can all 4 play together(of course anyone can fit them in a line-up),but we would have many problems we would need an essien and a mascherano togehter at our halfs so as to not be totally outrunned..

im pretty sure that binho would have to be benched most of times..

also is this going to be a loan deal too??we already have ibra and KPB loaned,if we have a gr8 season we wont be able to keep them all..unless we we just "re-loan" binho again next year..

ps..if dinho continues with this motivation and this fitness HE will be our gr8est transfer,gr8er thatn both binho and ibra together..

honestly yesterday was like an artistic performance..

ps2 i also think that we dont need a symmtrical system..dinho HAS to play on the left,even if yesterday played some minutes as an AMC he was not even close to what he did on the first half,and pato is better as a SS,although clearly on the right..

symmetry has nth to do with balance,i saw a far more balanced team yesterday than it would be with pato as a clear RF..

ps3 Just imagine pato and dinho with ibra "giving" them even more space and time for decisions that yesterday..
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Old 30-08-2010, 06:53   #4352

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Guys, useful site:
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Old 30-08-2010, 07:10   #4353

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one thin is 100% sure imo..
robinho will not stay at manchester..

so its either brasil again(i m not sure,just an idea)
barcelona
or us

he also said he wants spain or italy..other choices?inter? real? hmm..

what an excellent choice for rotation reasons woyld he be btw???
we always suffer when dinho or pato are out..he can play actually everywhere..LWF RWF SS FW AMC..
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Old 30-08-2010, 07:17   #4354

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- as for Robinho, he is a STARTER and that's that. He will not be happy to wait for one of our starters to get injured to have his chance and although he might not cost much (if the 10Mio rumour is true), we will be counteracting all the efforts that were made to cut down the wage bill by putting some1 like him on the bench as back-up. I think we should get a replacement for Dinho-Pato but it should be someone who is not such a high-profile player.
Why does everyone assume that Robinho has to be a substitute? Lineups are not set in stone. You don't just send the same guys out there all the time unless somebody gets hurt. There's no reason Milan couldn't rotate the four -- Ibra, Pato, Ronaldinho and Robinho -- so that all of them gets basically equal playing time and equal opportunities to start with each taking his turn coming off the bench. That would keep all of them rested and reduce the chances of fatigue and injury.
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Old 30-08-2010, 07:24   #4355

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yes rick i cannot say that i disagree..

but we have to have a stability,for e.g. in important matches who would be the starters??
imagine we're in ch.l. semis and we dont have a clear plan,and we keep rotating..
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Old 30-08-2010, 07:31   #4356

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maxwel robinho????
omg guys,i cant believe my eyes..how is that possible??
i said so many times that we have t stop dreaming the previous days,that i feel an idiot today..

anyway for me robinho is a gr8 playr,that can find a friendly enviroment here,which im sure he needs so as to start performing as he can..BUT i dont think they can all 4 play together(of course anyone can fit them in a line-up),but we would have many problems we would need an essien and a mascherano togehter at our halfs so as to not be totally outrunned..

im pretty sure that binho would have to be benched most of times..

also is this going to be a loan deal too??we already have ibra and KPB loaned,if we have a gr8 season we wont be able to keep them all..unless we we just "re-loan" binho again next year..

ps..if dinho continues with this motivation and this fitness HE will be our gr8est transfer,gr8er thatn both binho and ibra together..

honestly yesterday was like an artistic performance..

ps2 i also think that we dont need a symmtrical system..dinho HAS to play on the left,even if yesterday played some minutes as an AMC he was not even close to what he did on the first half,and pato is better as a SS,although clearly on the right..

symmetry has nth to do with balance,i saw a far more balanced team yesterday than it would be with pato as a clear RF..

ps3 Just imagine pato and dinho with ibra "giving" them even more space and time for decisions that yesterday..
Agree with the last part about our system. This is something what Allegri introduces which are very smart. Keeping Dinho playing as left forward but with Pato as second striker!

---Ambro---Pirlo---Seedorf---

-------------------Dinho-----
------Pato------------------
-------------Boriello---------
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with Rotation we then end up like Inter will do eventually with Benitez in charge, i think the best way foward is get a foward lineup and stick with it, with this the players selected will tend to gel quicker and wont need to adjust as much to there new playing partners.
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Its hard to take serious people who say we need to play 4-2-4... come on. Allegri is a serious ITALIAN coach, not a clown.

And those who say Robinho cannot be a sub - yes he can and will. Season has 50-60 games. We have 3 quality players up front! Robinho and Pippo makes it 5. Borriello can leave today as far as Im concerned. If one of Pato, Ibra, Dinho cannot play we loose all of our conception and that should not happen in a great lcub. That is why robinho is a good solution. Can play as RW, LW... Pato can play CF of course as he is one.

This move would make us really strong as we could rotate and prepare our team phisically in periods etc. Fingers crossed.
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Why does everyone assume that Robinho has to be a substitute? Lineups are not set in stone. You don't just send the same guys out there all the time unless somebody gets hurt. There's no reason Milan couldn't rotate the four -- Ibra, Pato, Ronaldinho and Robinho -- so that all of them gets basically equal playing time and equal opportunities to start with each taking his turn coming off the bench. That would keep all of them rested and reduce the chances of fatigue and injury.
Agree. We have many games and those many games give lot of chance to 4 players for 3 spaces.

Milan is officially a dreamland now.
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mrki do you mean Borri can leave regardless of if we get Robinho or not?
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Old 30-08-2010, 07:38   #4361

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If we get Robinho we can play a 2-2-4 formation like this.


....Abbiati...Roma...Amelia....

.........Silva....Nesta..............

.........Flamini ...Pirlo..........

Robinho.................Dinho...

...Pato.........Ibra..............

Just messing about obviously , but Im hoping we get Robinho sure some may not want to sit on the bench sometimes but thats the risk you signing for a team with such a powerful attack.
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Why is every one so excited about Robinho? Come on guys We need VdV or at least Honda, not this negative attitude clown, who always is the disturbing figure in any team he plays.

Maxwell is welcome though
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Geo, you've said almost I wanted to say


I remember 6, 7 years ago when we have 4 of the best strikers at the same time: Sheva, Pippo, Giladinho & Vieri and our formations were 4-3-1-2 & 4-3-2-1.

You know what I mean: 4 best strikers competed for just 1 1/2 places, and noone seemed too unhappy.

Now, we have 3 best strikers for 3 places with no good sub. Borri/Pippo for Ibra, Odu/Prince for Pato and none for Dinho. Simply worriable. And of course Dinho-Ibra-Pato can't play together every match.

If Robinho comes, he knows that if any of the 3 not fit, he can play, the chance is great, and the competition is just perfect. He competes with only 1/3 player, not even 1 player

Any world class player is afraid of competition? A good team need competition at every position.


In the Champion League final, if any of the 3 get injured or lose form, we are still relieved, and you know, we could really talk about the CL final.

Our defense needs improvement, but it is quite solid already and if the attack is so strong, it can keep the spirit very high and lessen the job for the defense. Simply said: if we score 3 goals, it is OK to concede 2 goals, but I think it is not easy to score against Milan now, we have clear idea how to defend and the mids could help.

Let's welcome Robinho
Yes. Agree. Inter have Pandev, Milito, Etoo and Balotelli last season. IMO they're all quality strikers, competing for 1 1/2 place. Competition in the right dose is always healthy.
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Kaladze, Onyewu, Oddo & Jankulovski OUT----> Maxwell in

Seedorf OUT----> Honda in (asian market, box to box creative midfielder) OR VDV

Borriello & Huntelaar OUT----->Robinho in

--------------------Amelia/Abbiati---------------------
Bonera------Nesta---------T. Silva-----------Antonini
--------Ambrosini---------------Pirlo------------------
----------------------Honda----------------------------
-------------------------------------Ronaldinho-------
----------------Pato------------------------------------
---------------------Ibrahimovic-----------------------

* Getting rid of so many players will help balance Wage Budget
* Robinho can replace Ronaldinho, Pato, or Ibra..there are MANY MANY Matches to be played and you can guarantee there will be injuries (hopefully minor)
* Honda will provide fresh midfield legs, a clear Seedorf Replacement. Technical, mobile, and opens HUGE door to an ASIAN Market which is very important and will help increase Revenues, Brand
* We can also play a Flat 3 midfield with Flamini/Ambro/Pirlo
* I'm also ok with the idea of keeping Bonera at RB, Antonini LB with Zambrotta, Abate and Sokratis as direct replacements (Maxwell is bonus, not needed as he's more attacking then a good defender)

Full Squad of 25 Players

GK: Amelia, Abbiati, Roma
DF: Nesta, Silva, Bonera, Antonini, Sokratis, Abate, Zambrotta, Yepes, (Maxwell?)
MF: Flamini, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Gattuso, Honda, Merkel, Strasser
F: Ronaldinho, Ibrahimovic, Robinho, Pato, Inzaghi, Oduamadi


(8 CL)

*just realized Honda AND Robinho cannot both come (EU SPOTS)

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Old 30-08-2010, 08:27   #4365

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does Robinho not have a Spanish passport?
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