Banter 2009/2010

Originally Posted by bijon

Pato is not worth more than 30mill so if Real are offering 55mill + Benzema we would be stupid not to take it. Pato is not the next Messi, Pato has technical ability but he lacks Messi footballing brain, he will never be anything like Messi. If the 4-3-3 only works with Pato then the solution is to change the formation for the new players. Pato at his young age is already an injury prone player, that is not a good sign.

He also does not seem very loyal to Milan, if he had a chance to go to Chelsea or Real he will take it.

Pato doesnt worth more than 30 m euros?Are you kidding?He is already one of the best forwards in the world,he is just 20 years old...

20...Kaka was in decline since 2 years before he left and was 28...he costed 67 m euros to Real Madrid...

He is the best right sided attacking player after Messi for 4-3-3...its easy to change formation,you will need to offload Ronaldinho too...you will sign 2 strikers...Pato esque striker and Dzeko...

even Dzeko costs around 40 m euros...what makes you think we can do this?

Pato esque striker
Dzeko
Probably a Trequartista...doesnt cost lower than 20m euros...

Benzema failed at Real and we dont know if he will repeat it at Milan as well...
he failed at La Liga,Serie A is harder than La Liga for him,with Ronaldo and co,he got great services,at Milan he will lack service...

i dont want us to change from 4-3-3...its the only way Milan plays great,just invest on it...

Come on,we even cant compete for scudetto with current team,dont forget 7-2 to United,Even Bayern managed to eliminate them with their current squad,we need to invest heavily not selling best player again...we shouldnt even think about selling Pato...

Galliani is the one who should go...

Pato could leave because we have Mancini?with same Mancini,Leo plays poacher Huntelaar at right,because Mancini is too great for there,Leo doesnt want to waste him there Right?

4-3-3 is a new system to us,we played with it this season,im happy of it,
i dont see any reason why we change it again...

Pato's progress is effected by injuries he had,he could be a another player if he hadnt this injuries...

Originally Posted by fLame

I hope this is not true.

Anyway, there is no reason he could quit 4 games before the season's end unless it's a fallout with Galliani / Berlusconi.

What say Sportmediaset (and some other websites giving the news from Sportmediaset) is just that Leonardo has 2 years of contract but won't do his second year ... which doesn't mean he's going to leave tomorrow for example, but at the end of the season.

Just rumours anyway ...

Originally Posted by Jay Crisp

They would love to win things Im positive but wan't to do it on a Serie B team budget of free and loan players's can't be done fact. Yepes is okay for backup but will he be only backup and why sign him for 2 years go with 1 work from there , Cacau again good for backup but if he came would he be . I did say a few weeks ago jokingly I might add that Cacau will come and Pato will be sold never did I think it would happen but here we are.

They have tried this season and probably next to do good without spending and will see it can't be done , There needs to be new good players. If they had spent 20 million each summer since 07 then we wouldn't be here but we had barcas squad we'd all be happy so no point in talking about if's.

All we can talk about is the shambles our transfer policy has become which is basically sell your best player and don't buy anyone leaves a nasty taste doesn't it. Im just hoping Berlu has a change of heart and keeps Pato and spends about 50 million , ah well you dribble you shoot hope to score..lol

More misery coming maybe maybe not stay tuned.

i'd take Cacau with open arms,cuz Ronaldinho doesnt have a vice and we lack alternatives for Pato,he at least would be a good alternative to them,we wouldnt neeed to play Huntelaar there for instance...

I hope that all these reports about Leo leaving are not true because I'm big fan of Leo, but the article is written by Carlo Pellegatti so I am afraid that he knows something more... anyway lets just hope Leo stays

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan...dnotizia=22579

Originally Posted by Rabia15

Pato doesnt worth more than 30 m euros?Are you kidding?He is already one of the best forwards in the world,he is just 20 years old...

20...Kaka was in decline since 2 years before he left and was 28...he costed 67 m euros to Real Madrid...

He is the best right sided attacking player after Messi for 4-3-3...its easy to change formation,you will need to offload Ronaldinho too...you will sign 2 strikers...Pato esque striker and Dzeko...

even Dzeko costs around 40 m euros...what makes you think we can do this?

Pato esque striker
Dzeko
Probably a Trequartista...doesnt cost lower than 20m euros...

Benzema failed at Real and we dont know if he will repeat it at Milan as well...
he failed at La Liga,Serie A is harder than La Liga for him,with Ronaldo and co,he got great services,at Milan he will lack service...

i dont want us to change from 4-3-3...its the only way Milan plays great,just invest on it...

Come on,we even cant compete for scudetto with current team,dont forget 7-2 to United,Even Bayern managed to eliminate them with their current squad,we need to invest heavily not selling best player again...we shouldnt even think about selling Pato...

Galliani is the one who should go...

Pato could leave because we have Mancini?with same Mancini,Leo plays poacher Huntelaar at right,because Mancini is too great for there,Leo doesnt want to waste him there Right?

4-3-3 is a new system to us,we played with it this season,im happy of it,
i dont see any reason why we change it again...

Pato's progress is effected by injuries he had,he could be a another player if he hadnt this injuries...

About Benzema, don't get me wrong: I don't want him.

But the reason why he has failed in Madrid is simple, like a lot of young and good players leaving for a bigger club: he comes from Lyon, he was the star of the team, everyone played for him. Arriving in Real, he's just a young and promising player among some of the biggest stars of football (Kaka', Ronaldo) and stars of Real (Raul, Sergio Ramos, Casillas).

Benzema should have stayed one more year in Lyon (but Lyon wouldn't be in semi-finals of CL with him as they wouldn't have invested in some players) or he should have left for a club between Lyon and Real in terms of quality before going to Madrid: Arsenal, Valencia, Roma, Bayern ...

Anyway, in Lyon, the guy who came to replace him seems a lot better than Benzema (nowadays and compared to how was Benzema in Lyon, Benzema will probably be better in some years): Lisandro Lopez.

About the formation, I would say the contrary, I'd prefer us to play in some 4-3-1-2 again as it would mean we would stop to be so dependent of Ronaldinho ... and would allow Pato to play in his position. And as a direct consequence, we would need to invest less (Galliani, if you read me) as we wouldn't need to buy a right winger, a sub for Ronaldinho, etc etc etc !!

Leo quiting Milan would be a very black day for the team. Not only we loose a great coach who is also a brilliant talent scout, but it also means the MGT probably is not going to invest and were not ready to listen to their coach! fck you galliani and silvio!

Originally Posted by Vulli

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/milan...dnotizia=22579

Ouch...


Let's hope it's for the best. Leo did an amazing job. I just wish he would have been supported with resources...

Respect for Leo!!!!!

I believe the official site has already denied the Leo rumour.

Originally Posted by Vulli

I hope that all these reports about Leo leaving are not true because I'm big fan of Leo, but the article is written by Carlo Pellegatti so I am afraid that he knows something more... anyway lets just hope Leo stays

Pellegatti and Luca Serafini are not relibre at all.i watched and read their news tons of times,only a few of them were true...

They said that Milan signed ibrahimovic,after some hours,inter offically signed ibra for instance...

before Leo, Milan existed. after Leo, Milan will exist, so why're rumours of him leaving bothering pple so much!!!

Originally Posted by GeoTav

About Benzema, don't get me wrong: I don't want him.

But the reason why he has failed in Madrid is simple, like a lot of young and good players leaving for a bigger club: he comes from Lyon, he was the star of the team, everyone played for him. Arriving in Real, he's just a young and promising player among some of the biggest stars of football (Kaka', Ronaldo) and stars of Real (Raul, Sergio Ramos, Casillas).

Benzema should have stayed one more year in Lyon (but Lyon wouldn't be in semi-finals of CL with him as they wouldn't have invested in some players) or he should have left for a club between Lyon and Real in terms of quality before going to Madrid: Arsenal, Valencia, Roma, Bayern ...

Anyway, in Lyon, the guy who came to replace him seems a lot better than Benzema (nowadays and compared to how was Benzema in Lyon, Benzema will probably be better in some years): Lisandro Lopez.

About the formation, I would say the contrary, I'd prefer us to play in some 4-3-1-2 again as it would mean we would stop to be so dependent of Ronaldinho ... and would allow Pato to play in his position. And as a direct consequence, we would need to invest less (Galliani, if you read me) as we wouldn't need to buy a right winger, a sub for Ronaldinho, etc etc etc !!

i totally agree with you except the last paragraph...

4-3-3 is a great system,team work,every player has to fight,more space,using the width more e.t.c.i like the system...Pato adapted to right well...yet you are right about we are Ronaldinho dependent team with it,lets sell him and sign Gourcuff back and start with 4-3-1-2,it would appeal to me too,if we have money and willing to spend great amounts...


Lyon wouldnt be here with Benzema,inter wouldnt be here with ibra...Lyon and inter both did the right thing and sold them...

i mean that if he failed at La Liga and Real,in better conditions,in Seria A and Milan he would fail more...that was just a comprasion...

i agree what you say about Benzema,

Originally Posted by shegs1157

before Leo, Milan existed. after Leo, Milan will exist, so why're rumours of him leaving bothering pple so much!!!

Why do you dislike Leonardo that much?

He did amazing job...he is great,he is the reason why Milan is here,without injuries of key players such as Pato and Nesta costed us so much,losing a scudetto...

if Galliani leaves,it wouldnt bother us much.i'd be soo happy with it...but Leo is great person,brave,he is not the toy of Berlu and Galliani,he is not a coward unlike Ancelotti,he takes responbility,he is very different to Carlo,this is why it bothers pple so much...

Originally Posted by Rabia15

i totally agree with you except the last paragraph...

4-3-3 is a great system,team work,every player has to fight,more space,using the width more e.t.c.i like the system...Pato adapted to right well...yet you are right about we are Ronaldinho dependent team with it,lets sell him and sign Gourcuff back and start with 4-3-1-2,it would appeal to me too,if we have money and willing to spend great amounts...


Lyon wouldnt be here with Benzema,inter wouldnt be here with ibra...Lyon and inter both did the right thing and sold them...

i mean that if he failed at La Liga and Real,in better conditions,in Seria A and Milan he would fail more...that was just a comprasion...

i agree what you say about Benzema,

Nobody can be sure about that but I tend to think he would have failed in Milan too ... but for other reasons. There is less star-system in Milan, but it's more "a family" (at least, it looks like from outside), and he doesn't have this mentality at all. The guy would probably not have managed to be a part of the team.

Anyway, people can change, the guy is young, he can mature if he has the right persons around him, and who nows, he maybe learned from this failure in Madrid. But Benzema <-> Pato shouldn't even be considered by our management, nor any trade including Pato (and if they do, I hope we will get a good player in exchange + a big amount of money).

Bijon is right to say that Pato is maybe not worth 30M, actually, I'd tend to say that 30M should be the price only for the best of the best players (and if I had to be honest, I still think it's too much, but it's another debate). But knowing Dzeko is valued by his club around 40M, knowing C.Ronaldo was bought for something near 95M, knowing that we sold Kaka' for almost 70M, and given the young age of Pato, if we sell him, we can't accept any offer under 60M [+ player(s)].