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Old 11-10-2004, 16:19   #31

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Kezman scores dozens of goals against crap teams, but he never plays well against the top clubs. I have a feeling he's never scored a goal in the Champions League. As for Milosevic, I assume you mean Savo, whose career has been something of a disappointment for me. He's 31 now, isn't he? I remember him spitting on his own fans at Villa Park all those years ago.

By Zigic, I assume you mean Nikola. Isn't he about 2 metres tall? I heard he was a useful player a while ago, but haven't heard anything since.
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Old 11-10-2004, 16:34   #32

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Yeah dat's wat I mean..and Kezman has never scored for NT but he has in CL
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Old 11-10-2004, 16:44   #33

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assume you mean Savo, whose career has been something of a disappointment for me. He's 31 now, isn't he? I remember him spitting on his own fans at Villa Park all those years ago.
Savo, Savo !

He was quite good at missing open goals in his Villa days


Kezman hasnt had a proper chance at Chelsea yet so its too early to judge him but with all respect to the Dutch league players with great records there cant really be considered proven..
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Old 11-10-2004, 18:52   #34

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I`ve seen Zigic play few times and although he is very skillfull and fast he is not nt material..yet,IMO.(and he won`t become if he doesn`t `leave` serbia soon..ish)I don`t think our nt coach is to be blamed for our players` poor play at all.we need fresh blood and at the moment i don`t really see anyone who fits into description to be honest.Truth is that all of them were good ..once....but now that is not the case.Our football is at downfall for few years already(let alone that it was ever GREAT..except in the distant past maybe) and i think people should accept that and realize that there is a problem.
Furthermore,Kezman(i agree whoever said that) is in poor shape at chelsea and when it comes to nt,he`s always `about to score` but he never does,that`s what he`s famous for around here.
Stankovic is probably the most consistent player in our nt now but he was rather `invisible` against B&H.Not that i can blame him after seeing how our midfield doesn`t function at all.
However i`d give credit to goalkeeper.....few nice saves.
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Old 11-10-2004, 19:25   #35

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I think our coach is to blame..holy shoit he leaves da best damn players out an duznt even call them out to play..Im surprised that Stankovic and Milosevic even play..Cmon with a good coach and a more organzied coach..we would be something alse..
Look at Real Madrid..they have a friggin dream team..ANY team wit Figo,Zidane and Ronaldo on it should be CLASS..no excuses!! But they're too damn disorganized..and Camacho juss wasn't the right coach for them. But in that situation the coach isn't the only thing to blame..It's because its all star players on one team and they all wanna show something..but end up losing..anywayz enuff of Real..
Ok if u don't think Zigic is good ..then wat do u expect? He's probably one of our better players. :|
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Old 11-10-2004, 19:38   #36

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Calm down a little.I didn`t say Zigic wasn`t good,i said he is not nt material and i stick to that.and i said he is not nt material ..yet.
I don`t think real madrid and our nt can be comapred in any possible way because their current players are from time to time `disorganized` as you`ve mentioned but they`ve got younger players in team and they are ....simply more skillfull....nothing to do with some of them being stars or not.Becky is primadonna but imo still very good free kick taker whereas we`ve got only mihajlovic (who can do that properly )and he`s already too old.However,i hope younger time can chagne something and i think that one of the problems now is that we `re going through generation changes.
Coach always bears part of the guilt for teams` failures...but since he(petkovic) got in charge there were ,to my knowldege, no such huge failures,so i simply take that as an......let`s say `improvement`.However im` still sad that genio resigned after azerbaijan issue.....i was hoping he could make things much better.......
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Why would I calm down?
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I got the impression u were pissed off with my opionion but i guess i was wrong.
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Wrong impression hun..This is me talking.
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In reply to mirza, I was looking at the squad list you provided. None of the players you mentioned has a great pedigree aside from Salihamidzic (don't say Baljic, he was a complete failure in Spain). I saw both S-M full side and U-21's in Belfast last April and to be honest they didn't look good at all.

Balkan football looks to be in the doldrums somewhat. How many top young players are really clamouring for worldwide recognition. Compare the players from the region who represented the various nations in the 1990's and look who there is now.
1.You said that none of the players exept Salihamidzic haven' great pedigree. What is with BARBAREZ?????
2. Main reason for that is that half of players who play for my NT are under 23years old.
3.You said that Balkan doesn' have good young players!!!! That isn't true, Vedad Ibisevic 18yo (Paris SG), Mustafa Kucukovic 18yo (HSV), Eldar Hadzimehmedovic 18yo scored 6 goals in one game in Uefa cup last year, Miralem Pjanic 17yo (K'lautern), this players are from BiH.
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Calm down ladies....
I do understand that SCG football NT felt in prfound crisis and it seems that they do not cope with problems in following years...
So we gonna tarsh our rivals and qualifiy for WC 2006
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Aye, but an awful lot of Balkan players have gone abroad over the past decade and been pretty disappointing- Dragan Ciric being a prime example. The young players you mention may be promising, but an awful lot of young players have promise. So many have failed abroad that these days I'm permanently sceptical.

As for Barbarez, yes I missed him, but he's 33 now.
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Aye, but an awful lot of Balkan players have gone abroad over the past decade and been pretty disappointing- Dragan Ciric being a prime example. The young players you mention may be promising, but an awful lot of young players have promise. So many have failed abroad that these days I'm permanently sceptical.

As for Barbarez, yes I missed him, but he's 33 now.
Yes it's true that so many youth players just disappeard. But I hope that our youth players will continue with good games......
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Young players? I didn't even c that part..THe SCG u21 team kicks ass today we won 9-0 ..make way for da champs!
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I think our coach is to blame..holy shoit he leaves da best damn players out an duznt even call them out to play..Im surprised that Stankovic and Milosevic even play..Cmon with a good coach and a more organzied coach..we would be something alse..
Look at Real Madrid..they have a friggin dream team..ANY team wit Figo,Zidane and Ronaldo on it should be CLASS..no excuses!! But they're too damn disorganized..and Camacho juss wasn't the right coach for them. But in that situation the coach isn't the only thing to blame..It's because its all star players on one team and they all wanna show something..but end up losing..anywayz enuff of Real..
Ok if u don't think Zigic is good ..then wat do u expect? He's probably one of our better players. :|
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