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Old 04-10-2004, 12:50   #31

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i dont rate owen at all! if crespo leaves, bring in torres!
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Old 04-10-2004, 13:57   #32

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I rather get Ba back then getting owen
Btw how's Ba doing nowadays? Where does he play? (if he plays)
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Old 04-10-2004, 15:02   #33

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last i heard he was at Bolton but he doesnt get near their first team if he's still there...
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Old 05-10-2004, 09:39   #34

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he seems to just disappeared from the scene....i got no clue which club he is playing...if he is playing
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Old 05-10-2004, 10:35   #35

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Steza, what's the Bolton story all about?
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Old 05-10-2004, 10:52   #36

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well, Bolton is like a football version of pet rescue, they give shelter to aging or rejected players

I remember last season Big Sam gave Ba a trial and eventually offered him a contract but i dont remember him playing much, if at all. I checked Boltons squad at Teamtalk and he isnt listed so either he is playing in their reserves or he has left them completely.
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Bolton released Ba at the end of last season. Since then I don't have the foggiest idea what he's doing. Probably in France somewhere. If I find out I'll keep you posted. Javi Moreno was also at Bolton last season, but he was similarly unsuccessful.

As for Owen, I believe he joined the wrong club. Real are in chaos, dominated by ridiculous egos among the so called galacticos. He has to fight with four others for a starting place, three of whom are fan favourites and the other is Ronaldo. Personally, I thought he'd be better at a club like Juve or Milan, who are more effective at integrating talent from abroad into their squad and have less pressure constantly on their shoulders. But give him time, he just isn't fit at present.
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Old 05-10-2004, 12:14   #38

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Bolton and big sam are a team with a plan....bring in old stars and buidl the club image as well as their position in the league.......within the next 2-3 years if Big sam is still there with them don;t be suprised if they are pushing the elites for honors as well......

The man just knows what is needed and gets the best out of every player available....look at Ivan campo for instance....i reject from Real who everyone though could not defend to save his life...now he is the defensive midfielder who combines well with Jay Jay...he takes on players , distributes and even scores once in a while...

Jay Jay is another one....lost at psg , where people though all he could do was the step-over dribble he made famous during the world cup in 98....Big sam brought him to reebok stadium and now he is one of the most sort after players in england with the likes of arsenal and manu U trying to get him 1 season ago......

Be very careful of Bolton
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dont worry i dont underestimate them, Utd were lucky to escape with a draw from the reebok stadium and lost to them last year...

Big Sam is one of my favourite managers, he has done an almost impossible job at Bolton and is finally getting credit for it. Bolton were 40m in debt and half way down the first division when he took over . With no money to spend he got them promoted and assembled a squad of vastly different players that play organised and even attractive football. He was Newcastle's first choice to replace Sir Bobby but rejected them to finish his job at Bolton (he has a 10 year contract) also he was born and raised just down the road from me
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Well Rahdi Jaidi, their excellent Tunisian central defender, claimed last week that Bolton could win the Premiership. Only thing, they then lost to WBA.
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Old 05-10-2004, 12:39   #41

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they lost Okocha to injury early in the match though which disrupted them.

Jaidi has been quite impressive so far and is another typical signing, from the Tunisian league straight into the starting XI and he has adapted immediately, even scoring a few goals...
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Yes sure I will loveto have Owen in Milan and crespo out. No need to buy Ronaldo it is just waste of money when u can buy someone like Owen and play him up front with Sheva.
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Old 18-10-2004, 00:17   #43

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I know exactly where Ibrahim Ba is playing. He is playing in The Turkish League with mid-table/bottom half Turkish Club Rizespor. He hasn't played much and is adapting with Egyptian signing, Ahmed Salah Hosny formley of VfB Sttuttgart and Gent.. The two of them are supposed to be a deadly strike force, though only Hosny has scored [and as far as I know played] for the club. Both struggle with fitness.
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Old 18-10-2004, 00:22   #44

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Well Rahdi Jaidi, their excellent Tunisian central defender, claimed last week that Bolton could win the Premiership. Only thing, they then lost to WBA.
Well last year, Man Utd lost to Wolves.. Granted they didn't win the Premiership, but I don't think one result can characterize a season..

Milan lost to Messina.. Tied with Livorno.. So I don't think that's fair.. But you're right, that is funny.. Haha
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Old 18-10-2004, 02:06   #45

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Jay Jay is another one....lost at psg , where people though all he could do was the step-over dribble he made famous during the world cup in 98....Big sam brought him to reebok stadium and now he is one of the most sort after players in england with the likes of arsenal and manu U trying to get him 1 season ago......
A bit exaggerated here, maybe so you could praise Sam more. Okocha had a lot of great games for PSG, where he showed a lot of more than "step-over dribble". you should just have seen the things he did against Brescia in the Intertoto cup some years ago. His problem then was his inconsistant performances and that most PSG managers didn't seem to like him. Remember that also Ronaldinho had problems to get into the first team in PSG due to differencies with his manager.
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