Milan VS Inter (Post game comments)

Two very tough matches in 5 days against two teams scoring frantically and 0 goals conceded (only 1 scored..., but would it have been better 0-0 against Barca and 1-0 yesterday??)
Despite the turn-over policy, its difficult to play such 180 minutes at constant high level.
I read here that Inter's best player was Fontana. I think it was... Fortuna. Remember only Ambro's final header to which Fontana was a very patient spectator.

Why doesn't Rui Costa play? Because in a match against Inter, Kaka manages that four oponents are yellow carded, because he is able to dribble a whole team, because he supplies (quasi)goal assists, because, because.

Juve, autumn collection 2004, is weaker than its results. I hope its coming true matches will prove that.

Poor Inter! Not this season either...

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by triniman

oh how i so totally agree...

but at the end of the day...we are an open forum...and everyone has to have their say....even bayman..(unfortunately)

""""You = Bayman"""

But now I'm just wondering if this rule, "Attack the post, not the poster" has been abused.

It is aboslutely right that people have free opinion, but excessively saying something without a strong proof (and please, your proof is a proof only in the beginning few matches and now, where is your proof?) is very irritating.

Showing your displeasure to a player is fine, but showing your displeasure without respect to the players are atrocious.

I have aboslutely respect of what you say, since what you say MAY be true too, but your subjectivity in this matter simply destroys your argument.

We appreciate very much of your cricticism, but please, don't put TOO many emotion in it. We can all make a fuss about inzaghi why he keeps getting offside, yet here no one complains. On what ground you think that Pirlo is 'useless' in the team? All because he throws 'granade' and is it true that ALL of them never work? Is it also possible that some of them work but that does not result in goals?

Is always easy to look for evidences to critcize the player, but the risk is that we have forgotten the other side of the coins.

And just for discliamer: 'm not attacking Bayman, but I'm attacking his postS.
Jeff

The matched lacked a goal - than It would have been far more entertaining especially in the 2nd half.

Milan main problem is still that we only can rely on Shevchenko as scorer - we have played 6 serie A games!! - and only Shevchenko has scored as striker ... Crespo, Inzaghi and Tomasson without a goal ... a problem, which also is one of the reason why we did not win the derby.

For me Inter still are not a title contender ... their attack depends only on Adriano ... and the defense is not a scudetto worthy . it`s still up to Milan and Juve

http://www.tgcom.it/bin/423.%24plit/...maginetake.jpg

just look what a marvellous coreography!

it has been such an amazing day, not only the game, but all the day in milan, we've taken a storm to piazza del duomo with some fellows rossoneri of bari singing songs in the afternoon! I will post a report later on this day

Originally Posted by Haroon

Milan started with purpose and really did some passing except Pirlo who started the grenade launching show throughout the game. He had only one long ball throughout the game that was dangerous. And he lost possession through his long balls for about 15 passes at least. It was agonizingly frustrating to see all this possession lost by some over-ambitious passing. Pirlo plays well when he goes for the through balls or the small delicate 10 m chips but not these 30m+ grenades into the opposing defender's chest or goalkeeper's hands.

Losing possession cannot be continued and for that these ambitious balls have to be stopped. When our team is playinig badly it uses the long balls and when Pirlo is playing badly he launches way too many balls. Our team didn't play these long balls apart from a few which is fine but Pirlo is totally short on confidence. Our midfield controlled the game and all this with Pirlo's zero contribution. A half decent performance by him and we would've run riot tonight! And Inter's midfield was supposed to be superior to ours.

I see you joined the hater club. It is funny,even tough I saw only one half I did not see these bombs you talked about. Nesta hit a couple of long balls in the second half but the ones from Pirlo was nowhere to be seen. He was on the other hand close to getting "second-assists" on several occasions when he started up attacks. He showed some great dribbles in midfield too. if anyone Seedorf and Ambrosini showed little or next to nothign in the second half.

Bayman, you should be fair. Critisize players that play bad and applaud players that play good. why not critisize Stankovic when he is next to worthless like in this match? you have after all said that he is the world best midfielder. Baraja? He have been quite bad in several games in a row now. I critisize or applaud Pirlo for what I see in game to game, just like I did about his horror passes early in the Barcelona game or his worthless games in the olympics. fair should be fair.

Originally Posted by kris

Bayman, you should be fair. Critisize players that play bad and applaud players that play good. why not critisize Stankovic when he is next to worthless like in this match? you have after all said that he is the world best midfielder. Baraja? He have been quite bad in several games in a row now. I critisize or applaud Pirlo for what I see in game to game, just like I did about his horror passes early in the Barcelona game or his worthless games in the olympics. fair should be fair.

What about Maniche(another favourite of Bayman). Porto are last in their group with 1 point after 3 games. How can that be with Maniche in the team(Bayman seems to credit wins to the midfield and blame losses on the midfield as well).
Roma are bad, because they have a bad midfield. Real Madrid have a bad midfield as well, but beat Roma because their midfield is sligtly better. Valencia has a world class midfield, but still lost to RM(according his logic this shouldn't be possible). Valencia lost to Inter as well, but that's because Inter's midfield is world class as well and the best in Italy, even though their midfield and especially another Bayman favourite, Stankovic, were invisible against our poor midfield yesterday.

It's all about the midfield even if facts say otherwise. It's the trend of the season for him.

Originally Posted by jushua

What about Maniche(another favourite of Bayman). Porto are last in their group with 1 point after 3 games. How can that be with Maniche in the team(Bayman seems to credit wins to the midfield and blame losses on the midfield as well).
Roma are bad, because they have a bad midfield. Real Madrid have a bad midfield as well, but beat Roma because their midfield is sligtly better. Valencia has a world class midfield, but still lost to RM(according his logic this shouldn't be possible). Valencia lost to Inter as well, but that's because Inter's midfield is world class as well and the best in Italy, even though their midfield and especially another Bayman favourite, Stankovic, were invisible against our poor midfield yesterday.

It's all about the midfield even if facts say otherwise. It's the trend of the season for him.

If wives betray husbands is it because they have a poor midfield as well?

Originally Posted by kris

I see you joined the hater club. It is funny,even tough I saw only one half I did not see these bombs you talked about. Nesta hit a couple of long balls in the second half but the ones from Pirlo was nowhere to be seen. He was on the other hand close to getting "second-assists" on several occasions when he started up attacks. He showed some great dribbles in midfield too. if anyone Seedorf and Ambrosini showed little or next to nothign in the second half.

Kris,

I always do try to be fair and Pirlo didn't have a nice match at all. If you don't believe that then have a go through the views of the Inter forum and you will come to know that they too agree that Pirlo was the least threatening midfield man on the pitch.

Pirlo had at least 15 launched balls all of which resulted in lost possession which is not good enough at this level. He had only one great dribble in the midfield. In the second half he sent in one through pass on the ground and one effective long ball in the match.

Seedorf had a pretty good game. He didn't do much in the second half but his first half performance was really good. Ambro did nothing in the match except miss a sitter in the air.

When Pirlo lacks in confidence then he launches these balls forward otherwise it is small chips not field length grenade launches. We could've easily ran riot if Pirlo had a half decent game and not lost possession on numerous occasions.

If he plays well the next game I will praise him but he deserves criticism for his performance because it sucked! He should be benched for Rui now because he is far too casual knowing that he is an automatic starter.

I am not disappointed with the result at all. I am disappointed in Pirlo and Ambro's performances which left a lot to be desired.

A dissapointing result considering our recent record against them but in my opinion it is a fair result . Both teams had their chances and the match was so even . Nesta played a magnificent match and showed whi he is considered the world's best central defender . He tightly marked Adriano and didn't allow him much spaces . Maldini had also a solid match . Kaka was excellent and tried hard a lot running at defenders and trying to find the target . The big flop in my opinion was Crespo and starting with him was a mistake . He is struggling with form and didn't shine a lot since he joined us . Starting with Tomasson as Sheva's partner would have been much better . Crespo wasted our best chance of the match after he failed to react quickly to Kaka's pass from the left while he had a good opportunity to beat Fontana . What caused our less sharpness upfront was the not so good level Seedorf . He played an average match in my opinion and didn't support the attack with his usual penetrations and shots from distance . Inter improved a lot under Mancini and it is not easy to beat them like we usually did in recent years . Anyway we are only 5-points behind Juve having played two of the big matches and we can recover . The most important thing is not to drop points against small sides and we need like last year to win most of our big matches .

Originally Posted by Giovanni

If wives betray husbands is it because they have a poor midfield as well?

Yes, the midfield is not hard working enough

Stankovic had ONE bad game, but overall he has been Inter's best player apart from Adriano sionce joining them January 2004. Scored truckloads fo goals and assisted many (like vs. valencia).
Baraja is in a bad form right now, agreed. But that way he might come very cheap. And add to that the Ranieri factor. Once this donkey is gone, he and the rest of the Valencia team will play much better again.
And Maniche is not Porto, it was Deco, Mourinho, Carvalho and Maniche. Three of them are gone. And a defensive midfielder can't change a team on his own. Porto isn't playing bad (vs. Chelsea as an example) they just can't score (striker OM problem) and their central defense is a lot weaker (for obvious reasons). Just look at Roma, despite Cassano, Totti and the all-hyped CM stars Ferrari, Mexes are doing complete sh!t in CL, becasue Samuel, Emerson and Capello left (like Porto). Mancihe himself is still a very good player.

Originally Posted by jushua

Yes, the midfield is not hard working enough

Originally Posted by Haroon

Kris,

I always do try to be fair and Pirlo didn't have a nice match at all. If you don't believe that then have a go through the views of the Inter forum and you will come to know that they too agree that Pirlo was the least threatening midfield man on the pitch.

Pirlo has at least 15 launched balls all of which resutled in lost possession which is not good enough at this level. He had only one great dribble in the midfield. In the second half he sent in one through pass on the ground and one effective long ball in the match.

When Pirlo lacks in confidence then he launches these balls forward otherwise it is small chips not field length grenade launches. We could've easily ran riot if Pirlo had a half decent game and not lost possession on numerous occasions.

If he plays well the next game I will praise him but he deserves criticism for his performance because it sucked!

I am not disappointed with the result at all. I am disappointed in Pirlo and Ambro's performances which left a lot to be desired.

but I saw the second half as I mentioned and your assesment is far off when it comes to that half. and your "one dribble" comment is off, i can off my head remember three instances when he did great dribbles/turns to get into better positions. The long balls in the second half was mainly from the feet of Nesta. I do agree that Pirlo sometimes can launch all to many of those long balls, but if he did in this game that must have been mainly in the first half.

Originally Posted by Bayman

Stankovic had ONE bad game, but overall he has been Inter's best player apart from Adriano sionce joining them January 2004. Scored truckloads fo goals and assisted many (like vs. valencia).
Baraja is in a bad form right now, agreed. But that way he might come very cheap. And add to that the Ranieri factor. Once this donkey is gone, he and the rest of the Valencia team will play much better again.
And Maniche is not Porto, it was Deco, Mourinho, Carvalho and Maniche. Three of them are gone.

Fair enough. I wouldn't blame Maniche myself, especially since I only seen him once this year. I find it strange tough that the relatively slow Maniche and Baraja are supposedly the ones we need. Our midfields real weakness is the lack of pace baring Gattuso. Ambro/Seedorf/Pirlo are all relative slow. Vicente sounds like a much better option or Gerrard which is a awesome player. Now that Serginho is less used and have lost a bit of pace we lost one of our best offensive weapons, we need someone new like that (altough Cafu can be said to have replaced him on the other side...).

Vicente would be great too, if we move Gattuso to central midfield.
And you don't have to be overly pacey, it is enough to just run with the ball, play in to kaka/Sheva(low, easy ball no huge passig skills required) move further upfront, make yourself available to receive the ball and combine with the other teammates till someone is in a situation to shoot on goal.
Just PLAY football as a team.