Chievo Milan Post Game Comments

Originally Posted by Nadir

yah that save was awesome. wait till you see it in the highlights. he made two spectacular saves in this game.

my player ratings

Dida (9/10) - two spectacular saves and came out to pick all the crosses. never was out of place.

Cafu (6.5/10) - pacy as always but occassionally missing in defence.

Nesta(6.5/10) - two bad slips almost cost milan a goal. he recovered well to prevent a SURE goal after his first slip. had he not, his rating would have been much lower. also cased a professional foul to earn a yellow. maldini and nesta have a superb technical understanding of each other.

Maldini(6.5/10)- solid as always. nothing exceptional. no big mistakes. ran ahead of nesta to make sure nesta wouldn't get a red when he committed the professional foul.

Kaladze(6/10) - still a bit shaky but the more he plays the better. almost scored a goal.

Dhorasoo(8/10) - Continues to impress fans and detractors alike. beautiful close control skills, perfect crosses and able to thread passes to the forwards skillfully. needs a few more games to get the hang of the big league. watch out for this guy.

Ambrosini(7/10) - played to his strengths and kept a lock on milan midfield. reminds me of albertini back in the day.

Seedorf (6.5/10)
Gattuso 78 (unrated)

Rui Costa(8/10) - again showing that he is not a has-been. the more he plays, the better he gets. carlo should ignore silvio and play him alongside kaka. his style is similar to kaka's so they add a dimension to each other's play.

Kakà(7.5/10) - his runs can only be stopped by crowding him out and this time the crowd-out technique only caused the ball to ricochet to crespo and crespo scored.

Crespo (8/10) - really finding his best form again. 4 goals in 3 games. scores his first serie A goal. really helping ease the pressure on sheva. now, i await to see the sheva - crespo combo.

Pirlo (unrated)

it ridicilous nesta got the rating same as maldini.maldini played so well.he covers kaladzes spaces.anyone seen cossato?just type the game.you shouldnt make comment before you watch the game.ok?
ricky was always ricky
kaladze was one of worst of the game.
rui played well are you kidding?he was so bad he was only good about winning the ball he uses the ball uneffective.
ok
you should watch the game.ok.after that comment.

VERONA - Match winner Hernan Crespo spoke to the Milan Channel after the Chievo encounter: ’It was a tough game, particularly rough, I came off with a few knocks but everything went well. We pleased to get a result at a difficult ground, this evening we can watch Inter and Juventus is relaxed fashion. We suffered in this game but that’s normal after three hard matches. Chievo play good football, are quick off the mark, get forward, we need to be more on the ball but it was a very important victory.’

It is allways good that you keep us informed Dil Dil. Could I ask you to look for relevant existing threads to post in before starting new threads? That way more people may benefit from the content you are posting.

Can I ask one of the mods in this specific forum to merge this with the "post game" thread?

Merged Dil Dil's thread here.

Originally Posted by Bayman

Impressive Dhorasoo Finding His Feet
11/29/2004 11:58:00 AM
Milan midfielder Vikash Dhorasoo put in another fine display in the 1-0 win over Chievo on Sunday.
“I am happy with the way I played and the outcome of the game,” he was quoted as saying on the club’s official site. “The important thing is to have a positive game but the three points count for more.

“I am glad to have overcome any doubts about my style of play, it’s all about speed and movement. I can play any position on the pitch, I played on the left at Palermo and on the right today. I was used to playing different roles in France.”

That's the way everyone should play, imo.

Exactly. Kick Gattuso and Seedorf out. Or maybe just Gattuso. He is not fast, he basically has no ball technique He lost more passing (YES ADMIT IT DUDE WATCH THE GAME HE PLAYED AGAINST SHARKSTAR) than others.

Be realistic. World Class is not just movement and speed. They are very essential but not sufficient. Skills, teamwork, technique... I'm not saying Dhorasaoo is bad, nor am I saying Gattuso is bad either.

Since you never mention any other player, then I'm not going to do that too. But you see, I really don't see how your argument stands.

Originally Posted by Jeff

Exactly. Kick Gattuso and Seedorf out. Or maybe just Gattuso. He is not fast, he basically has no ball technique He lost more passing (YES ADMIT IT DUDE WATCH THE GAME HE PLAYED AGAINST SHARKSTAR) than others.

Be realistic. World Class is not just movement and speed. They are very essential but not sufficient. Skills, teamwork, technique... I'm not saying Dhorasaoo is bad, nor am I saying Gattuso is bad either.

Since you never mention any other player, then I'm not going to do that too. But you see, I really don't see how your argument stands.

Originally Posted by Jeff

Be realistic. World Class is not just movement and speed. They are very essential but not sufficient. Skills, teamwork, technique...

I think Bayman is entitled to his own opinions like the rest of us. He prefers the way Dhorasoo plays and I don't see anything wrong with that. After watching Dhorasoo played against Chievo, I had to re-evaluate my opinions of him, especially about his "random" movements in the games prior to Chievo. The last game showed that Dhorasoo is indeed a very technical player and his runs seem to make more sense now (for me, at least...). And I did not think he would last the full 90 minutes. He did.

In regards to the critique on certain players, we can't really compare Dhorasoo to Gattusso or even Seerdof. They are very different players. And I think Gattusso and Pirlo needed the rest. Anyway, the only person that comes to mind when I saw Dhorasoo played was Littbarski but I'm sure many would think otherwise.

It's good to rest over-regular midfielders such as Gattusso and Pirlo in that game, and give the team a fresh sense of direction. But we also should not forget that players are just part and parcel of the team's techniques for the day. Different players are installed for some and most, but not all, of the games. There's also the factor in which the style of play that our opponents play does matter. So, it won't boil down to only one or two players to decide the course of the game.

Of course, I'm sure all of you know this already.

Originally Posted by acmilan89

I think Bayman is entitled to his own opinions like the rest of us. He prefers the way Dhorasoo plays and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Nope... nothing wrong with that of cousre. I am sure all of us welcome his timely comment on Pirlo.

Point taken.

Actually, I was referring to Bayman's comment on Dhorasoo in this thread "Chievo Milan Post Game", and not his comment on Pirlo which is in the "Dhorasoo makes case for himself" thread, which was after the Shakhtar Donesk game.

Or maybe I got it all mixed up. Cheers.

Dhorasoo was super in that game IMO I seen him in Milan only few times he always palyed good exept Shaktar-Milan(that day his game was aiwfull)!

This is not about a set starting 11. D'horasoo playing well gives Milan more options.

Personally I feel that Pirlo does better in open games (away games and games against quality sides), where his skills are usefull in starting counter attacks.

D'horasoo seems very usefull in the "must win" games where the opponents are playing 10 men behind the ball, for 2 reasons. 1) He is quick with the ball at his feet 2) It is almost impossible for a ref not to award a free kick when he goes down. Seriously, the guy is so small. Imagine Materazzi doing to D'horasoo what he did to Sheva. D'horasoo would have landed somewhere in Curva Sud

I will give some more moedrate ratings compared to Nadirs very generous ones.

Dida 8. He had some great saves, he did all that was needed and saving the deflected freekick was ore than that.

Cafu 6. Did nothing special in either side of the pitch, he was kind of "missing" in this game and didn't look as decisive.

Nesta 5.5. While the overall play was not bad he slipped several times that could very well have costed us the win. He is unfortunate that Chievo doesn't have any strikers.

Maldini 6.5. Solid game from him.

Kaladze 6.5. also pretty solid, he coped really well in one-one-ones, but didn't really do much in the offense.

Dhorasoo 7. Good game and he showed the same things as before. Had a great pass to Crespo, but Crespo failed to do anything but dive.

Ambrosini 6.5. I am unsure of how to rate him, if I go by his defensive work he should have a higher, but he slowed down our play and limited our offense more than helped it.

Seedorf 6. Solid game, did some good things, but nothing special. Could have scored a offside goal...

Rui Costa 6. he only got that for his first 20 minutes. He was really good then, but after that he faded. In the second half he was almost contraproductive as he slowed down some of our counters which made them vanish into the thin air.

Kaka 6.5. Looks a bit more in shape, but still lacks that decisive moments that he showed against Shaktar and we where spoiled of last year.

Crespo 6.5. Had a pretty good match and did what was needed, brought us the 3 points.

Originally Posted by Henrik

This is not about a set starting 11. D'horasoo playing well gives Milan more options.

Personally I feel that Pirlo does better in open games (away games and games against quality sides), where his skills are usefull in starting counter attacks.

D'horasoo seems very usefull in the "must win" games where the opponents are playing 10 men behind the ball, for 2 reasons. 1) He is quick with the ball at his feet 2) It is almost impossible for a ref not to award a free kick when he goes down. Seriously, the guy is so small. Imagine Materazzi doing to D'horasoo what he did to Sheva. D'horasoo would have landed somewhere in Curva Sud

i don't know why dhorasoo must be compared with pirlo. they are quite different in their playing style. the first thing i noticed when i watch dhorasoo is his speed and close control of the ball. short passes were good but he almost never do long passes. there was quite a few times when i questioned why didn't he pass the ball to the other side of the field where there are more space to attack. i suggested pirlo should be rested since i don't know when, finally he is getting it. Dhorasoo should played the next few games else it would be very unfair to both him and pirlo.

Originally Posted by hwmook

i don't know why dhorasoo must be compared with pirlo. they are quite different in their playing style. the first thing i noticed when i watch dhorasoo is his speed and close control of the ball. short passes were good but he almost never do long passes. there was quite a few times when i questioned why didn't he pass the ball to the other side of the field where there are more space to attack. i suggested pirlo should be rested since i don't know when, finally he is getting it. Dhorasoo should played the next few games else it would be very unfair to both him and pirlo.

I agree that Dhorasoo is not the same as Pirlo, but I think that people see him as one of the few alternatives to Pirlo that we have. He is able to Pirlo's role (not as effectively imo), but when he plays, he plays using his own style rather than the same way as Pirlo. I think another factor people like about him being able to play Pirlo's role is that he provides a new/unique style of play to the team.

To be honest, as I've said before, he can play in Pirlo's role, but I don't think as well and even then, when I see Carlo playing him this year, he does not put Dhorasoo in Pirlo's role, but adjusts the system to accomodate him and the side without Pirlo. When Pirlo doesn't play, his jobs are usually shared between the players (really, we play in a different way altogether, but Pirlo's responsibilities cannot be discarded from the play either way) on the pitch and therefore its noticeable to see someone like Dhorasoo do something Pirlo may normally do (like being a fundamental directing force in the build up play).

Personally, I think Dhorasoo is actually best suited to play in Seedorf's role, as his variety of skills can be used (both offensive and defensive).