Sheva is better than van Basten (?)

Kriss.... go elsewhere please. I'm not contradicting myself, u just don't get what I say and it's hard always to explain to u all over again. When I say "big" or "small" I mean what kind players play for that team, and not what history they have (usualy). I said that Dynamo is a big club, and I was talkig about 80's and 70's (because Snapster used it as an example that small clubs can creat "european best player" award winners, and I said to him that Dynamo isn't a small club). And except that club like Dynamo Kiev will always be consideed as an outsider... U see, this is a small things that I have to explain to u and that's getting on my nurves.... and I still think that Sheva's goal against Juve is more great than van Basten's against USSR...

I can say this. Putting all reasons to why aside. My eyes tell me that Marco Van Basten was the better player. PERIOD. My opinion! If through your eyes you think Sheva is a better player. FINE. I cant argue with that. But when we start to theorize on both sides to why he's better than the other or not, this can go back and forth until the end of time.
I think the argument that you were trying to convey had gotten lost when you were responding to someone else's new post. When you respond it should be short and then you should go back to your central point of argument. I'm saying this cause I honestly got confused to the reasons why you feel different than the others.
Somehow you were making a counterpoint to someones motion and somehow it got a little of track from you central message and gave the appearance of being contradictory. That's all. Happens to all of us.

Have to say Sash thats one of the most twisted, trip yourself and use what ever you can to kill the opposition threads ive ever seen.
As for this comment:
"I don't agree with that statement, Ronaldo for example was much more sharper and better in his younger age. Sheva too lost some skills in this past years, I remember when he was younger he looked much more dangerous, storming defences combinig speed and techniqe. Younger players usualy more sharper and faster than the olders...

Lets look at it. yes Ronaldo was better when he was younger, much better but lets not forget about 3 serious knee injuries and they all take their toll on you. Simply put his body can't do it the way it used to. As for Sheva he was not a better player when he was younger. He was a more direct and selfish player. Now he is a great team striker, brings others into the game and creates things out of nothing. He is much more complete now that he ever was and this is a fact acknowledged. Young players are usually only sharper for one reason, they haven't had years of tackles and injuries to slow them down. But while their body slows, their brain quickens.

Originally Posted by Sash21

When I say "big" or "small" I mean what kind players play for that team, and not what history they have

ok, I understand.

Originally Posted by Sash21

I said that Dynamo is a big club, and I was talkig about 80's and 70's

you just contradicted yourself again Sash. and in the same sentence too

Originally Posted by Henrik

ok, I understand.


you just contradicted yourself again Sash. and in the same sentence too

I guess the late 90's doesnt count. Even with Shevchenko on the team. LOL!
I'm getting more confused.

OK let me get it clear for u: I looove chocolate muffins!!!

Originally Posted by Sash21

OK let me get it clear for u: F*CK OFF!!!

I noticed that you edited your post. I can only imagine what the previous version was like Regardless, we have been thru this before with you Sash, you know the proceedure

Before??? I never was here before, u confusing me with someone else...

Whats goin on with this forum lately, why are there so many peopel swearing at others

Originally Posted by K77SH C

Whats goin on with this forum lately, why are there so many peopel swearing at others

Apart from some (not all) of the new ManU fans that have joined the forum, It is a select few people that continue to break the forum rules.

We will deal with it appropriately, so that we can have the forum will all love to visit back to normal.

Fair enough or maybe Kaka will put an end to it all for you Henrick

Sash that a bit strong now in fairness. You attempted to make points, but contradicted yourself and as soon as someone points it out to you you swear at them like that? Its a forum, everyone is entitled to post an opinion just because you dont agree with others dont just go ape, accept it and move on.

I didn't contradict myself, it's not my fault that some people here are "unsmart".

Welcome back Sasha...

Inferno... leh lishon.